#61 2021-11-18 19:44:43

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

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1:08 killer88 is shooting you from 1 meter, didnt hit even once.
Do you think killer88 too noob to hit a guy from 1 meter? smile
Sometimes i got same feeling playing vs some players, no idea, they are unhittable even if they are not bugging.

1:08 was a bug, it takes a few seconds for the hitbox to come up, you should know that.

i thought this is fixed on with some stupied patch on simple server

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#62 2021-11-18 20:07:40

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

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I'm curious to see some infantry gameplay videos from players that always whine about regs. Let's analyze those videos and see what the real problem is.

haha this is so true.  probably they just have too shaky aim but they dont realize.

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#63 2021-11-18 20:26:49

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

Most of those players who whine about regs, have very bad target tracking/leading.

Their aim is very inconsistent. A good zoomed-in slow-mo of such players will confirm that.

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#64 2021-11-18 23:34:39

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

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I'm curious to see some infantry gameplay videos from players that always whine about regs. Let's analyze those videos and see what the real problem is.

We did this internally with jokers and the different hit reg experience ppl have ingame is astonishing. This is the reason why its sometimes hard to say whos better at the game because the fundmentals are already unfair. 000 for example got dealt an amazing hand which leads to him being a threat as inf although his map movement is suboptimal.

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#65 2021-11-19 00:55:27

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

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my map movement is highly optimal

my regs weren't just granted to me ....

theyre the result of a large number of hours of reading and tinkering with all kinds of computer related stuff

i have other, modern, general-purpose computers, with bf1942 installed on, and theyre deliberately not set up for swift gaming. the reg / delay difference between my quickie pc and those is immense, even on the same net connection

thats the problem with the average bf-league clanner, theyre not shrewd enough to do extensive and deep research into latencies and similar areas

all they do is install bf1942 on their pc and maybe do one or two basic tweaks and thats it. theyre common grunts



zody however, now theres one thats completely lost, bf-wise

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#66 2021-11-19 01:09:12

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

Its like saying Bloody Mary thrice in a mirror xD I can do the exact same steps then you did but still wont get the same result. gotta move to denmark for this to be the case or any other low populated area with great internet

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#67 2021-11-19 01:14:00

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

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all they do is install bf1942 on their pc and maybe do one or two basic tweaks and thats it. theyre common grunts

Fuck! That´s me!

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#68 2021-11-19 01:25:11

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

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I can do the exact same steps then you did but still wont get the same result.

no you cant, im rather sure you dont have the same technical insight as me

u didnt read my post properly bruh; my regs are mainly not due to my i-connection, rather, other trixx

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#69 2021-11-19 01:54:13

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

If there was anything reliable to improve your hit registration it would already be out there. Inconsistent for everyone but definitely not in the heaps as some make it out to be. Matters only when the players facing have similar skill. Reg won't save you if you got potato movement, aim and game sense.

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#70 2021-11-19 02:02:18

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

Your insight is not that useful to me because I already found the solution to any hitreg problems I ever had smile And it absolutely has something to do with your i net connection too 000.

Deeko you are wrong btw. There is something out there already to improve hitreg serverside.

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#71 2021-11-19 02:06:34

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

Good for you. Waiting for you to smash everyone in infantry then. You should also help out the people with this problem, so they can stop whining everywhere.

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#72 2021-11-19 02:09:25

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

Consistent hits dont make you a good infantry. It makes things easier and more motivating to work on your skills though. Simple tried this solution btw and it resulted in heavy lags. thats why simple only uses a weaker version of it.

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#73 2021-11-19 02:19:51

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

Haven't felt or noticed anything game changing compared to other servers. Maybe something slightly different, but I think people are looking for something that's actually game changing.

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#74 2021-11-19 02:27:31

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

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Haven't felt or noticed anything game changing compared to other servers. Maybe something slightly different, but I think people are looking for something that's actually game changing.

If your hitreg was already great the improvement isnt great. it helps people that have real inconsistencies with their hitregs.

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#75 2021-11-19 04:21:24

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

The sad thing Is that I killed 000 several times with the medic.

And the only thing I do with my bf Is set mouse 3 to go UP, and the crosshair purple.

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#76 2021-11-19 04:57:51

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you have no skill darcano ... all you can do is backstab and ambush .... your entire game consists of hiding ....  you never get gold and you never dominate in any way .... as inf, if i know where you are and you cant hide behind or cooperate with teammates to get me, youre completely screwed

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#77 2021-11-19 07:05:40

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

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You think you are that awesome... but you are not.

Go play CS and make 50'000 the month with your awesomeness!

It's really tiring, reading your Post-adolescent attitudes.

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#78 2021-11-19 07:18:19

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

Sparrow wrote:

Most of those players who whine about regs, have very bad target tracking/leading.

henccak wrote:

haha this is so true.  probably they just have too shaky aim but they dont realize.

BFSoldier 1 wrote:

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my map movement is highly optimal
my regs weren't just granted to me ....
theyre the result of a large number of hours of reading and tinkering with all kinds of computer related stuff

Deeko wrote:

Good for you. Waiting for you to smash everyone in infantry then. You should also help out the people with this problem, so they can stop whining everywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E54TZ8ufPjs

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#79 2021-11-19 09:09:07

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Lol karlon that's the typical reply to a topic that goes beyond your understanding. Everyone is so smart but when you bring the facts that prove otherwise, they are like "I don't care anyway"

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#80 2021-11-19 10:41:18

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inVictus|GlupsoN.

Much more fitting.

Btw,

KarlsoN wrote:

Sometimes i got same feeling playing vs some players, no idea, they are unhittable even if they are not bugging.

Maybe because you're not a good enough player?

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#81 2021-11-19 13:34:51

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Do some of you really not know what bughits and dusthits are?

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#82 2021-11-19 13:49:35

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

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This server is full of hate...peace out.

That's rich coming from you.  You're another one that's managed to slither his way in to admin.

You break almost every rule I can think of.  You constantly spam chat with useless drivel.  You abuse the admin panel.  You curse.  You use the most vicious up/down bugs, the list goes on...  Then you come here acting like the voice of reason.  On top of all that, you inject yourself in to every inf topic like you're relevant.  You're not relevant in infantry.  You never have been.  You never join an inf server, you never join a tourney because you suck.

You've even made up your own language, on every death "ffs skhfdblag fkssso"  "fks lagsssnab sksjdn eznab" "fks low ping spikes nades dont reg"   What does this shit even mean???

How many years have you been using the lag reg excuse now?  10 years?  It's just a childish excuse for being shit.  Nobody in their right mind believes that shit that comes out of your mouth and tbh, every time I see that useless shit in chat I just wanna drag you by your ears to that bridge in Market Garden and drop kick you right off the bastard edge.

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#83 2021-11-19 14:04:44

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

Butcher are you ok?

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#84 2021-11-19 14:09:39

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I wont even reply. Not even losing one sec.

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#85 2021-11-19 14:26:05

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

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Do some of you really not know what bughits and dusthits are?

From my personal experience, dust hits only happen when I hit the opponent where I see him, and not where his true position is. (not enough leading) That way the hit is not registered. (This is much easier to notice with planes)

This still falls under the term ''bad aim'',  so my initial comment is  correct.

In games like MoH:AA, CoD 1, 2 etc. the concept of leading  is virtually non-existent. But bf42 is a bit different as you can see. It's much harder to have a consistent aim in this game. So it's expected whinny players like karlson to exist.

And Zody, while you're still active, when will you post that BoB round you promised?

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#86 2021-11-19 14:26:13

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Did I forget my bread in the toaster?

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#87 2021-11-19 14:43:43

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

Sparrow wrote:
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Do some of you really not know what bughits and dusthits are?

From my personal experience, dust hits only happen when I hit the opponent where I see him, and not where his true position is. (not enough leading) That way the hit is not registered. (This is much easier to notice with planes)

This still falls under the term ''bad aim'',  so my initial comment is  correct.

In games like MoH:AA, CoD 1, 2 etc. the concept of leading  is virtually non-existent. But bf42 is a bit different as you can see. It's much harder to have a consistent aim in this game. So it's expected whinny players like karlson to exist.

And Zody, while you're still active, when will you post that BoB round you promised?

That lead is different for ppl. Some dont have to lead at all like hencca f.e. (judging from his aim videos) others have to lead a lot which already places them at a disadvantage. The worst thing though is the inconsistency many ppl have, making it really hard to adjust to a style of aiming - almost impossible. this is the reason why ppl whine about hitregs. imagine having different lead all the time. having consistent aim is not about skill at time but about how stable your connection is.

I dont play public anymore so you will have to wait for that bob round. I also get the feeling that you dont really get what im talking about concerning lead, hitreg etc. or you dont want to. Consider yourself lucky when the variance of your lead isnt absurd like it is with other ppl

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#88 2021-11-19 15:07:58

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Re: Got kicked in Berlin today

It's mostly about playing for a better position to get the right angle on your enemy. Shooting and spraying everything will only work on very low ping. Can we see some vids, where they have different leading on similar ping?

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#89 2021-11-19 15:20:39

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FOr infantry its more about hitreg. How many of your hits get registered by the server and yes you can see major to minor difference from player to player. Extreme difference in lead is rarely impactful as inf. sorry if that part came out wrong. Lead is more of a topic in plane fights. Just watch different clanwar videos from different players. you ll see the mismatch

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#90 2021-11-19 15:34:32

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There's always a bigger chance for your shots to register if you have good aim and a good angle. That's all i'm saying.

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