#1 2021-08-29 01:52:42

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More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

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84 slots is a lot for BF1942 in 2021, but still, the Simple player count is currently above 80 or full, around 5-10 hours per week, and we aren’t even in the high season. Fall/winter + new covid variants may bring further server population increases.

I’ve proposed slot increases several times before, which mostly were met by negative naysayers, but fortunately, the head admin makes many right choices, and he added slots (probably doesn’t need most player input and would’ve done it anyway).

https://team-simple.org/forum/viewtopic … 45#p143645
https://team-simple.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=7979


I’m aware that 84+ slots may bring too much latency and other technical issues, but I think it should be tried at least.

90/96/100/100+, whatever slots?


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More than 84 slots?

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#2 2021-08-29 02:06:44

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

No from me but I know you know why.

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#3 2021-08-29 02:09:21

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

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What you expect of more slots except more Chaos.

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#4 2021-08-29 08:46:30

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

Add 128 slots, so king_bf could rape more. lol

Actually, it wouldn't be a terrible idea just to try, but I think my experience on TTB tells me it will be a latency-induced chaos.

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#5 2021-08-29 12:41:46

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

Holy hell,is he a suckup to the admin if he needs something or his bans removed.

000 quote :'I’ve proposed slot increases several times before, which mostly were met by negative naysayers, but fortunately, the head admin makes many right choices, and he added slots (probably doesn’t need most player input and would’ve done it anyway).   end silly quote '

Does it feel nice to prostitute yurself to "head admin" to try to get what you want?
The 'king" on his knees for favors...funny....


Edit :Why not a second server for people that actually do teamplay so I don't have to keep count of this very individual oriented players like this bonehead that never heals a teamie,doesn't take the flag when he can spawnrape it,teamstacks if hec an't beat you or just plainly quits the game out of spite......

I would prefer that!

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#6 2021-08-29 15:37:49

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

128 slots would be insanity, but it would be so much fun.

The theoretical maximum number of players on a server is 255. Imagine that on Berlin.

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#7 2021-08-29 15:45:39

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

Actually with a little bit of tweaking to the server application you can get up to 16777215 players on a server if you wanted to big_smile

Currently I’m running a server with that many players and an additional 180 bots and while it isn’t the most stable, I’m getting around 40fps in the server console window which is good.

https://www.gametracker.com/server_info … 187:14569/

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#8 2021-08-29 15:53:35

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#9 2021-08-29 15:54:56

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

Black Mamba wrote:

128 slots would be insanity, but it would be so much fun.

The theoretical maximum number of players on a server is 255. Imagine that on Berlin.

All we need now is a pure infantry server for Berlin/stalin or what it was like in the past.

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#10 2021-08-29 15:56:27

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

LuccaWulf wrote:

Actually with a little bit of tweaking to the server application you can get up to 16777215 players on a server if you wanted to big_smile

Currently I’m running a server with that many players and an additional 180 bots and while it isn’t the most stable, I’m getting around 40fps in the server console window which is good.

https://www.gametracker.com/server_info … 187:14569/

That’s simply impossible. There can’t be more than 255 assigned player IDs.

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#11 2021-08-29 15:58:17

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

KANER88 wrote:
Black Mamba wrote:

128 slots would be insanity, but it would be so much fun.

The theoretical maximum number of players on a server is 255. Imagine that on Berlin.

All we need now is a pure infantry server for Berlin/stalin or what it was like in the past.

Yeah I agree, an infantry only server is needed at the moment.

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#12 2021-08-29 16:20:24

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

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Tuia can tell me where i have to rent a server, he can control and manage it tongue

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#13 2021-08-29 17:31:45

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

Black Mamba wrote:
LuccaWulf wrote:

Actually with a little bit of tweaking to the server application you can get up to 16777215 players on a server if you wanted to big_smile

Currently I’m running a server with that many players and an additional 180 bots and while it isn’t the most stable, I’m getting around 40fps in the server console window which is good.

https://www.gametracker.com/server_info … 187:14569/

That’s simply impossible. There can’t be more than 255 assigned player IDs.

I thought that limit only applied to the amount of bots you can have? I do know how to make it “show” that many player slots but I never tested trying to get more than 255 players (not bots) on a server. Thanks for the info Mamba!

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#14 2021-09-03 20:30:35

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

Black Mamba wrote:
LuccaWulf wrote:

Actually with a little bit of tweaking to the server application you can get up to 16777215 players on a server if you wanted to big_smile

Currently I’m running a server with that many players and an additional 180 bots and while it isn’t the most stable, I’m getting around 40fps in the server console window which is good.

https://www.gametracker.com/server_info … 187:14569/

That’s simply impossible. There can’t be more than 255 assigned player IDs.

the Dark Lord doesnt agree

https://youtu.be/5uEPIXBMB1k

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#15 2021-09-04 03:05:18

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

bud wrote:
Black Mamba wrote:
LuccaWulf wrote:

Actually with a little bit of tweaking to the server application you can get up to 16777215 players on a server if you wanted to big_smile

Currently I’m running a server with that many players and an additional 180 bots and while it isn’t the most stable, I’m getting around 40fps in the server console window which is good.

https://www.gametracker.com/server_info … 187:14569/

That’s simply impossible. There can’t be more than 255 assigned player IDs.

the Dark Lord doesnt agree

https://youtu.be/5uEPIXBMB1k

So you had 666 bots in the server running around? Damn

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#16 2021-09-04 11:30:33

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

no ofc not, its just a limit he set.
Doesn't prove anything wink

I think mamba is right about player IDs

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#17 2021-09-05 02:35:06

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

Its hard to remember exactly and google mostly return old broken threads that i wrote myself like ten years ago (löl) but here is some loose ends that can give a clue
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https://www.gamedevs.org/uploads/tribes … -model.pdf
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#18 2021-09-05 19:19:17

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

henk wrote:

no ofc not, its just a limit he set.
Doesn't prove anything wink

I think mamba is right about player IDs

I'm always right smile

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#19 2021-09-06 04:09:31

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

I can't see it making any difference.. so you would hit 90 a few times.. not much difference.

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#20 2021-09-06 08:13:21

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

for me a full server is not playable. how is it for the rest of you guys and girls?

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#21 2021-09-06 11:50:37

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

when typing a command it takes five to ten seconds to apply, if a player reports when checking the list of players one of the teams list gets stuck or bugged, in El Alamein an Enemy plane spawns or land inside the enemy´s hangar.

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#22 2021-09-06 12:56:01

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

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Increase it even more for more Newbies and less Community Players.

It feels like playing on AX sometimes.

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And yes, ... that delay with the Commands is tiring.

If you write a command while you play you have to focus those 10 seconds on the chat, to check if it was successful or not.

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#23 2021-09-06 15:48:31

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

jorgen wrote:

for me a full server is not playable. how is it for the rest of you guys and girls?

Its not just the server spec thats important, but its doess also put some extra strain on players computer to. How much is harder to judge, but if a map is heavy modded then ofcourse more data is shuffled around.

Some years ago i tried downclock my cpu just out of curiosity and then connect to a bf42 server with many of players, and what happend was that i had to stop the experiment before i reached the lowest setting, because it started to lag badly long before i thought it would.

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#24 2021-09-06 20:49:26

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

Runs smooth for me. No lag spikes or anything. Only thing I see is what everyone else has said about the admin commands lagging.

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#25 2021-09-07 14:47:49

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

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All we need now is a pure infantry server for Berlin/stalin or what it was like in the past.

Get lags on 84 slots when the server is full. Berlin and Caen are almost unplayable. And I think it's a big mess on very small maps.
Probably my computer reaches its limit, as bud said.

But I don't see the server full very often... Not sure a specific inf server will help, or contributes to empty the server that is not a very good thing...

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#26 2021-09-10 21:00:07

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

We should do a weekend event where the server is 128 slots… and we organize the event to get as many people on a Saturday on the server.

We could probably hit 128/128, play The bigger maps like Midway… full crews on ships…

Maybe El Al with more tank spawns etc, etc. would be pretty fun I think.

Especially since it’s the 19th anniversary of 1942… something to think about.

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#27 2021-09-10 21:32:43

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

BangBangOw wrote:

We should do a weekend event where the server is 128 slots… and we organize the event to get as many people on a Saturday on the server.

We could probably hit 128/128, play The bigger maps like Midway… full crews on ships…

Maybe El Al with more tank spawns etc, etc. would be pretty fun I think.

Especially since it’s the 19th anniversary of 1942… something to think about.

Your custom maps with 128 players would be sick. Someone like BlueDrake, with the following that he has, could probably bring a bunch of players to an event like this.

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#28 2021-09-10 23:23:32

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

BangBangOw wrote:

We should do a weekend event where the server is 128 slots… and we organize the event to get as many people on a Saturday on the server.

We could probably hit 128/128, play The bigger maps like Midway… full crews on ships…

Maybe El Al with more tank spawns etc, etc. would be pretty fun I think.

Especially since it’s the 19th anniversary of 1942… something to think about.


I acutally like this idea, once or twice a year where everyone would get together in a 128 slot server. If we could get a following like FinnWars does on Finland independence day every year, we would be good for the next century.

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#29 2021-09-11 16:38:55

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Can't wait to see that on Tobruk, from my Wespe...

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#30 2021-09-13 05:56:27

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Re: More than 84 slots for SiMPLE?

Black Mamba wrote:
BangBangOw wrote:

We should do a weekend event where the server is 128 slots… and we organize the event to get as many people on a Saturday on the server.

We could probably hit 128/128, play The bigger maps like Midway… full crews on ships…

Maybe El Al with more tank spawns etc, etc. would be pretty fun I think.

Especially since it’s the 19th anniversary of 1942… something to think about.

Your custom maps with 128 players would be sick. Someone like BlueDrake, with the following that he has, could probably bring a bunch of players to an event like this.


My Act of Valor Jungle map would be absolutely insane with 128 people. That map would be freaking nuts with that many people.

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