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000

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Abas misunderstanding rules ...

trying again .....

short version : i broke NO rules whatsoever in that coral round, and yet got a 7 day ban for teamstacking, basically because abas was angry that i switched to his axis team, so him and arkos couldnt hunt me in their planes anymore

but ok ....

abas ..... try and tell me which rule you think i broke in that coral round  ...

when i made the switch to axis ( completely normal switch, allowed by autobalance, and no console command ) ,

the standing was allies 365 - 360 axis, meaning allied was the winning team. so technically, i switched to the losing team ( teams were virtually even, and both teams had two carriers )

a switch like that is perfectly allowed

and when it comes to teamstacking, determining which team is winning / losing, is normally done by tickets and / or flags. coral has no flags, so for this map it is tickets and if teams have one or two carriers

abas .... you cant ban somebody for seven days, just because you and arkos want to stalk me on coral, and i then switch to the losing team, which is allowed

tell me ..... which rule you think i violated

Last edited by 000 (2018-05-26 04:36:13)

ABAS

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

Lol , i wrote the reason here a m.otherfuc.ker deleted the topic and he wrote it again , i wont post anything about it again

Last edited by ABAS (2018-05-25 07:49:33)

Hydra{SRB}

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

You have seven days to live...

Then back to BF.
https://youtu.be/qkVlC2WgEwc

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

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Ya, not worth to loose a single word again.

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

What's going on here? Can you please detail all the facts with no emotions?

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

Hey we play Berlin last night I get ur gold for you ! ?

000

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

What's going on here? Can you please detail all the facts with no emotions?

simple fra yesterday around 21.00 cet, 40-45 players, coral sea, i play allies from start, abas, arkos axis. im attacking the axis carriers, abas + arkos are in axis planes going after me around the axis carriers

about five minutes into the game i switch to axis. i simply press axis, and autobalance allows me to do it. at the time of the switch, teams are virtually even; almost same player count on each side, allies has around 5 more tickets than axis, and both teams have two carriers, so rulewise, teams are either even, or allies is slightly winning

abas sees the switch and warns me that i'll get a 7 day ban if i dont switch back, i see the warning but deliberately ignore it since i know hes wrong, and what im doing is 100 % perfecly allowed. i would rather be banned than being pressured by some admin who is making a wrong decision. abas then bans me for 7 days for teamstacking

abas, arkos and 40 other players were there and should be able to confirm these details

Last edited by 000 (2018-05-27 13:34:22)

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

What's going on here? Can you please detail all the facts with no emotions?

simple fra yesterday around 21.00 cet, 40-45 players, coral sea, i play allies from start, abas, arkos axis. im attacking the axis carriers, abas + arkos are in axis planes going after me around the axis carriers

about five minutes into the game i switch to axis. i simply press axis, and autobalance allows me to do it. at the time of the switch, teams are virtually even; almost same player count on each side, allies has around 5 more tickets than axis, and both teams have two carriers, so rulewise, teams are either even, or allies is slightly winning

abas sees the switch and warns me that i'll get a 7 day ban if i dont switch back, i see the warning but deliberately ignores it since i know hes wrong, and what im doing is 100 % perfecly allowed. i would rather be banned than being pressured by some admin who is making a wrong decision. abas then bans me for 7 days for teamstacking

abas, arkos and 40 other players were there and should be able to confirm these details

So long story short you coudnt get gold medal as allies and you switched to axis. Got a warrning, ignored it... Whats the problem again?

000

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

So long story short you coudnt get gold medal as allies and you switched to axis. Got a warrning, ignored it... Whats the problem again?

what i did was allowed and not teamstacking

switching team is allowed if teams are even, or the team that you switch to, is losing

if an admin warns / kicks / bans / for such a move, this admin is the one who is wrong ...

Hydra{SRB}

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

So long story short you coudnt get gold medal as allies and you switched to axis. Got a warrning, ignored it... Whats the problem again?

what i did was allowed and not teamstacking

switching team is allowed if teams are even, or the team that you switch to, is losing

if an admin warns / kicks / bans / for such a move, this admin is the one who is wrong ...

Beeing a bitch should not be allowed.

Arkos

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

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BfSoldier deleted the topic which he started yesterday, because he didn't like what he had to read.

Because he wiped out the allready written facts, we denied to start over again.

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000

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

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BfSoldier deleted the topic which he started yesterday, because he didn't like what he had to read.

Because he wiped out the allready written facts, we denied to start over again.

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i deleted it because it was full of troll overloading and offtopic spam

and abas never gave a valid reason for the ban

Last edited by 000 (2018-05-25 13:48:25)

Räkan

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

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BfSoldier deleted the topic which he started yesterday, because he didn't like what he had to read.

Because he wiped out the allready written facts, we denied to start over again.

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i deleted it because it was full of troll overloading and offtopic spam

and abas never gave a valid reason for the ban

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That is really funny. Since you deleted the entire Topic, you can't proove what you just said, (which is anyway not true).

You are a genious!

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000

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

That is really funny. Since you deleted the entire Topic, you can't proove what you just said, (which is anyway not true).
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you, me and abas read abas' answer ..... we all know that he gave no legit reason for that ban

gio

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

He gave and you deleted it, I am still waiting for your post about me btw . I also kicked you for stacking and you wanted to make a post for that KICK if I remember right

000

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

He gave and you deleted it, I am still waiting for your post about me btw . I also kicked you for stacking and you wanted to make a post for that KICK if I remember right

he answered, but abas' answer was hollow and pointless ... he gave no substantial reason for that ban

a kick or a 15 min ban, maybe even one day in severe cases, for real teamstacking is of course perfectly ok. but 7 days for something that doesnt even come close to teamstacking is lame and pure admin abuse

and btw .... clanner simple somewhat-noobish admins. do you think you're authorities on this game ... ? you act pretty arrogant sometimes, as if you created or own this game. the knowledge about bf1942 for some of you is pretty low in many areas. i wont comply or act guilty, just because some powertripping newcomer kid to bf1942 like abas cant even understand what teamstacking is

Last edited by 000 (2018-05-25 19:07:11)

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

What's going on here? Can you please detail all the facts with no emotions?

abas, arkos and 40 other players were there and should be able to confirm these details

They would comfirm that you should take your ban like a man son !!!! for sure !!! 

KIN

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

Most of the time you team stacking.. for more score..
its your second time ban for team stacking

LegioX.DoubTi/Mourits

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

Whyy did you delete the other topic? You wasted Abas', mine and everyone else who spend time responding on ur post. Now it's time to ignore you instead of wasting time giving you a solid answer. Mr. "Rule exploit bender".

Atm. its record-breaking hot summer in Denmark, bfsoldier, enjoy the opportunity Abas gave you to enjoy this lovely weather for a hole 7 days. Remember sun lotion.

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

Admins obviously have their prerogative. They earn that through their hard work and devotion to the community. Usually they are plenty fair here @ simple and mostly very decent. But sometimes you just have to follow their rules.

Prerogative = An exclusive right or privilege held by a person or group, especially a hereditary or official right.

Last edited by iCQ (2018-05-25 22:59:15)

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

Now we who didnt saw that post are curious to know what really happened. I was ready to buy some popcorn....

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

Whyy did you delete the other topic? You wasted Abas', mine and everyone else who spend time responding on ur post.

You wasted anyway your time with your post DoubTi.

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

Teams were even,tickets 5 of a difference,Abas and Arkos defending carrier and killing you,so you switch,WHY? Should have been 1 month

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

Teams were even,tickets 5 of a difference,Abas and Arkos defending carrier and killing you,so you switch,WHY? Should have been 1 month

He switched sides cuz he cant get gold. Gold digger!

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

One week is too much anyway. He is unbanned.

LegioX.DoubTi/Mourits

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

Sometimes I feel like Simple is runned like a real-world-democracy. This is a computer game. Bfsoldier could easily stand (and deserve) a 7 day ban. The dude is exploting every rule and every inch of every map on the server, so he can keep whatever fun noobs might have in this game to a minimum: 24/7 hangar rape with Thompson/nades on Britain, 24/7 tank/thompson/nade rape on El alamein CTF axis airfield, 24/7 thompson/nade rape on Iwo jima middle bunker or battleship bombardment, Berlin allied mainbase camping, Bocage b17 camping with his player number 0 = he will always get that plane. Do I need to continue?

But sure since we have to obey the CLEAR rules and since he provide so much fun and  happiness to the server unban him immediately and punish Abas/Arkos.

000

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

thank you nameless

Teams were even,tickets 5 of a difference,Abas and Arkos defending carrier and killing you,so you switch,WHY? Should have been 1 month

sure scorpion .... 1 month ban for a nonstack switch ....

what the h... is wrong with some of the admins' thought process ? cant you understand simple logic ? i'll repeat .... if teams are even or your team is winning, youre always allowed to switch once to the opposite team if autobalance allows it

its completely irrelevant if you have 5 clanner elite pilots chasing you and then switch. your crazy minds are making up bs "gentleman's" / "honor" code stuff, and confusing it with actual rules

The dude is exploting every rule

doubti, tell me which RULES im am breaking / bending / exploiting. dont mix "lameness" or weird feelings into this. just clear and straight ... which RULES .... ( i'll answer -  few to no rules )

its absurd that some of you call my gameplay lame. infantry stuff is easy to prevent and guard. and i probably only camp 10 % of the time. grab a stopwatch and try speccing me for long periods and youll find it true

here are some real low moves that i despise and rarely or never perform, but many admins / clanners shamelessly carry out regularly .... this stuff is the real lame gameplay :

- scorewhoring with a stalingrad tank
- scorewhoring with the omaha axis tank
- scorewhoring with axis caen tanks
- scorewhoring with axis wake planes, and constantly killing allied planes at the runway / takeoff
- pilots stacking to axis on maps with spitfires because the bf109 is better
- constantly using the heavy tanks at deen

- generally constantly being in a tank or plane, avoiding going inf at all costs ! .... making things miserable for infantry

etc etc

Last edited by 000 (2018-05-27 07:02:26)

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

I feel sorry for him. It really looks like he has nothing else but BF1942. Poor guy XP Fanatic.

Frank(Ger)

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Re: Abas misunderstanding rules ...

There is no rule that sais winnerteamjoining is forbidden but there are commands that indicate that teamstacking is.
So if someone switches to a team, that doesn´t have less players, it can be punished no matter what team will probably win. Usually this commands will not be applied as long as the player has 0 0 0 Score.
Autoteambalance doesn´t prevent teamstacking in the early stages because it is activated only after a certain difference but the last possible teamstack will activate it and autoswitch other players into the smaller team.