Netanyahu blames Holocaust on Palestinian leader Haj Amin-Husseini

HoOK · 2015-10-21 13:14:34

links :
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4714349,00.html
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.681525
http://www.alternet.org/world/israels-n … inate-jews
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/21/netanya … holocaust/

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Tuesday at the 37th Zionist Congress that Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler did not initially plan to exterminate the Jews and was convinced by the grand mufti of Jerusalem – but renowned historians said definitively on Wednesday that this was not the case.

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Professor Dan Michman, a world-renowned expert who is the head of the Institute of Holocaust Research at Bar-Ilan University and Head of the International Institute for Holocaust Research at Yad Vashem said Hitler did indeed meet the mufti – but this only occurred after the Final Solution began.

"He flew to Berlin," Netanyahu said of the mufti. "Hitler didn’t want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews. And Hajj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here.' 'So what should I do with them?' he asked. He said, 'Burn them.'"

Netanyahu also said that the mufti was sought during the Nuremberg trials but managed to evade them.

He further noted that the mufti claimed Jews wanted to destroy Al-Aqsa Mosque before the war, and "this lie is about a hundred years old."

Yad Vashem's chief historian, Professor Dina Porat, told Ynet that Netanyahu's statements were factually incorrect. "You cannot say that it was the mufti who gave Hitler the idea to kill or burn Jews," she said. "It's not true. Their meeting occurred after a series of events that point to this."

Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon said Wednesday on Netanyahu's remarks: "Of course Hajj Amin al-Husseini did not invent' the Final Solution to the Jewish question'. History clearly shows that Hitler initiated it. Hajj Amin al-Husseini joined him." He added that "the jihadist movements today are encouraging anti-Semitism and lean on known Nazi heritage."

Opposition leader Isaac Herzog called Netanyahu's remarks "distortion of history" on his Facebook page.

"No one needs to teach me how much of an Israel-hater the mufti war," wrote Herzog. "He gave an order to murder my grandfather, Rabbi Herzog, and actively supported Hitler. But there was only one Hitler. Hitler did not need Husseini to order the murder of Jews just because they were Jewish."

Professor Meir Litvak, who teaches at Tel Aviv University's Department of Middle Eastern History, said the idea of annihilating the Jews came up in 1939. While the initial plan was to send Europe's Jews to an area north of the Ural Mountains so that they would die of disease, he said, the plan was nixed when the Soviet Union did not surrender in 1941. At that point, Litvak said, the extermination idea arose.

"Husseini supported the extermination of the Jews, he tried to prevent rescuing of Jews, he recruited Arabs for the SS," said Litvak. "He was an abominable person, but this must not minimize the scale of Hitler's guilt."

The PLO made its own statement on its Twitter page. "Netanyahu hates Palestinians so much that he is willing to absolve Hitler for the murder of 6 million Jews," the account quoted Saeb Erekat, former chief negotiator in Israeli-Palestinian peace talks, as saying. "On behalf of the thousands of Palestinians that fought alongside the Allied Troops in defense of international justice, the State of Palestine denounces these morally indefensible and inflammatory statements."

"I had absolutely no intention of absolving Hitler of his diabolical responsibility for the extermination of Europe's Jews," Netanyahu said as he prepared to depart for Berlin to meet German Chancellor Angela Merkel. "Hitler was responsible for the Final Solution to murder six million, it was his decision.

"At the same time it is absurd to ignore the role played by the Mufti, Haj Amin al-Husseini, a war criminal, in encouraging and goading Hitler, Ribbentrop, Himmler and others to exterminate European Jewry.

"There are many testimonies to this, including the testimony of Eichmann's deputy at Nuremberg – not now, but after the Second World War.

"He said: 'The Mufti played a role in the decision of the German government to exterminate the European Jews, the importance of which must not be disregarded. He has repeatedly suggested to the various authorities with whom he has been in contact, above all before Hitler, Ribbentrop and Himmler, the extermination of European Jewry. He considered this as a comfortable solution for the Palestine problem.'

"Eichmann's deputy added: 'The Mufti was one of the initiators of the diabolical extermination of European Jewry and was a partner and advisor to Eichman and Hitler in the carrying-out of this plan.'

"This attempt by certain researchers and certain people to give an apologetic to the central and important role Hajj Amin al-Husseini had is obvious. Many other scholars quote this testimony and other testimonies as to Hajj Amin al-Husseini's role.

"My goal was not to absolve Hitler from the responsibility that he bears, but rather to show that the father of the Palestinian nation at that time, without a state and without what they call "the occupation", without Palestinian territories and without settlements, already aspired to destroy the Jews through systematic incitement. Unfortunately, Hajj Amin al-Husseini is still a revered figure in Palestinian society. He appears in textbooks and is elevated as the father of the nation, and the incitement that began with him, incitement to kill Jews, continues. It's not the same format, but in another format, and it's the root of the problem. In order to stop the murder, we must stop the incitement.

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Paulnz · 2015-10-22 08:23:43

I wouldn't listen to anything that evil prick says...

Archer! · 2015-10-23 07:26:47

Why does the world have to be this way?

Aqualung · 2015-10-26 06:10:27

History doesn't lie - The Mufti meeting with Adolf in Berlin.

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Aqualung · 2015-10-26 06:11:53

Aqualung · 2015-10-26 06:16:39

Grand Mufti Amin al Husseini giving a Nazi salute.

seventy · 2015-10-26 06:59:11

Aqualung wrote:

History doesn't lie - The Mufti meeting with Adolf in Berlin.

Read the thread title again.

Aqualung · 2015-10-26 07:25:54

seventy wrote:

Aqualung wrote:
History doesn't lie - The Mufti meeting with Adolf in Berlin.
Read the thread title again.

I read it the first time, it is highly misleading.

Aqualung · 2015-10-26 10:27:17

Not much more to say. This piece of cockroach excrement is still revered by far too many Arabs today.

Kisiel · 2015-10-26 13:51:46

Heil Hitler!

HoOK · 2015-10-26 15:22:29

Aqualung wrote:

Grand Mufti Amin al Husseini giving a Nazi salute.
http://jtf.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/ … _Nazis.jpg

.its 13.SS "Handschar" and fight against bolschewism....

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Aqualung · 2015-10-26 17:49:33

HoOK wrote:

Aqualung wrote:
Grand Mufti Amin al Husseini giving a Nazi salute.
http://jtf.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/ … _Nazis.jpg
.its 13.SS "Handschar" and fight against bolschewism....

Not entirely.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waff … roatian%29

"It also fought outside the security zone on several occasions, and earned a reputation for brutality and savagery, not only during combat operations, but also through atrocities committed against Serb and Jewish civilians."

"During the summer of 1944, elements of the division were tasked with guarding Hungarian Jewish forced labourers building fortifications in Tuzla. While guarding the labourers, they subjected them to cruel treatment, and shot 22 who were unable to continue working."

"While it achieved successes and proved itself competent in counter-insurgency operations against the Partisans in eastern Bosnia,[125] the division earned a reputation for brutality and savagery, not only during combat operations,[31] but also through atrocities committed against Serb and Jewish[126] civilians in the security zone."

"In April 1943, the Mufti of Jerusalem, Mohammad Amin al-Husayni, was invited by Berger to assist in organising and recruiting Muslims into the Waffen-SS and other units. He was escorted by von Krempler, who spoke Turkish.[20] The Mufti successfully convinced the Muslims to ignore the declarations of the Sarajevo, Mostar and Banja Luka Ulama (Islamic clerics), who in 1941 forbade them from collaborating with the Ustaše.[21]

The Germans emphasised that al-Husayni had flown from Berlin to Sarajevo in order to bless and inspect the division. During his visit to Bosnia al-Husayni also convinced some important Muslim leaders that the formation of the division was in the interests of Islam.[22]

The Mufti insisted, "The most important task of this division must be to protect the homeland and families [of the Bosnian volunteers]; the division must not be permitted to leave Bosnia", but the Germans paid no attention.[23]"

seventy · 2015-10-26 18:23:29

Aqualung wrote:

seventy wrote:
Aqualung wrote:
History doesn't lie - The Mufti meeting with Adolf in Berlin.
Read the thread title again.
I read it the first time, it is highly misleading.

How is the title misleading? This is what Netanyahu said:

"Mr. Netanyahu said in a speech to the Zionist Congress on Tuesday night that “Hitler didn’t want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews.” The prime minister said that the mufti, Haj Amin al-Husseini, had protested to Hitler that “they’ll all come here,” referring to Palestine.

“ ‘So what should I do with them?’ ” Mr. Netanyahu quoted Hitler as asking Mr. Husseini. “He said, ‘Burn them.’ ”

Prof. Meir Litvak, a historian at Tel Aviv University, called the speech “a lie” and “a disgrace.” Prof. Moshe Zimmermann, a specialist of German history at Hebrew University, said, “With this, Netanyahu joins a long line of people that we would call Holocaust deniers.”

Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/22/world … .html?_r=0

Aqualung · 2015-10-27 03:13:21

Damming evidence of the Mufti’s exhortations to exterminate the Jews was presented at the Nurenberg trials by none other than senior Nazi official Dieter Wisliczeny. On September 15, 1947, Drew Pearson, one of the best-known American columnists of his day, quoted Wisliczeny’s evidence in his column, “Washington Merry-Go-Round,” as follows:

"In my opinion, the grand mufti, who has been in Berlin since 1941 played a role in the decision of the German government to exterminate the European Jews, the importance of which must not be disregarded. He had repeatedly suggested to the various authorities with whom he had been in contact, above all before Hitler, Ribbentrop and Himmler, the extermination of European Jewry. He considered this as a comfortable solution to the Palestinian problem. In is messages broadcast from Berlin, he surpassed us in anti-Jewish attacks. He was one of Eichmann’s best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say that, accompanied by Eichmann, he has visited incognito the gas chamber of Auschwitz."

Read the full text here:

http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/10/21/le … d-hitler/#

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seventy · 2015-10-27 18:48:59

From "The Times of Israel":

"In fact, it is not some, but rather most serious historians who doubt the veracity of Wisliceny’s account.

Yehuda Bauer, Israel’s preeminent Holocaust scholar, is a prominent case in point. “After the war, they caught him (Wisliceny) and tried him at Nuremberg, where he tried to eschew
all responsibility, saying: ‘It wasn’t Hitler, it wasn’t me, it was the mufti,'” Bauer told The Times of Israel on Thursday. “I am not sure if Wisliceny ever met the mufti. I doubt it, but
it’s doesn’t matter. It’s clear that his account is untrue: the Germans had started annihilating the Jews half a year before Hitler and the mufti met. Netanyahu’s story is entirely baseless.”
(Wisliceny was executed for war crimes in 1948.)

Bauer, a professor emeritus of history and Holocaust Studies at Hebrew University and an academic advisor to Israel’s Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial, is far from alone among elite
historians in rejecting Netanyahu’s reliance on Wisliceny’s testimony.

The “Wisliceny hearsay is not merely uncorroborated, but conflicts with everything else that is known about the origins of the Final Solution,” Rafael Medoff, the head of the Washington,
DC-based David Wyman Institute for Holocaust Studies, wrote in a 1996 article for the Journal of Israeli History.

“There is no independent documentary confirmation of Wisliceny’s statements, and it seems unlikely that the Nazis needed any such additional encouragement from the outside,”
historian Bernard Lewis, an eminent Islam scholar, wrote in 1997."

Link: http://www.timesofisrael.com/in-netanya … o-history/

Syndrum² · 2015-10-27 19:42:22

Aqualung who is paying you? xD

Nosferatu · 2015-10-28 23:42:12

So it is all related to a believe....

Grow up people, think and we can stop this bs. Cuz that's what it is!

There isn't any 'all knowing creature'....

Aqualung · 2015-10-29 04:22:48

Syndrum² wrote:

Aqualung who is paying you? xD

Morality, conscience, combating baseless hatred and most importantly, a strong desire to (at least attempt to) avoid repeating the perilous mistakes of history.

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HoOK · 2015-10-29 05:03:56

Anyway those jews guys are kiĺling us everyday here, so don't blame Adolf for what he did to them (even the holo never happened )
And tell me what the fuck they are doing in my country(no hate as a religion )

Aqualung · 2015-10-29 06:40:54

HoOK wrote:

Anyway those jews guys are kiĺling us everyday here, so don't blame Adolf for what he did to them (even the holo never happened )
And tell me what the fuck they are doing in my country(no hate as a religion )

Killing you every day huh? The Holocaust never happened? Are you really that historically ignorant?

Surely what you meant to ask is what the fuck are YOU doing in THEIR country (no hate as a religion)?

joint · 2015-10-29 07:03:37

Aqualung wrote:

Syndrum² wrote:
Aqualung who is paying you? xD
Morality, conscience, combating baseless hatred and most importantly, a strong desire to (at least attempt to) avoid repeating the perilous mistakes of history.

Ahaha! but look deeper into yourself (fading voice)deeper deeper deeper...:)

Aqualung · 2015-10-29 07:19:17

joint wrote:

Aqualung wrote:
Syndrum² wrote:
Aqualung who is paying you? xD
Morality, conscience, combating baseless hatred and most importantly, a strong desire to (at least attempt to) avoid repeating the perilous mistakes of history.
Ahaha! but look deeper into yourself (fading voice)deeper deeper deeper...:)

Looking...

joint · 2015-10-29 07:31:45

you just make a view to show how deep you are? good move!

bidji91 · 2015-10-29 09:05:08

Aqualung wrote:

Surely what you meant to ask is what the fuck are YOU doing in THEIR country (no hate as a religion)?

Go hang yourself

Aqualung · 2015-10-29 11:15:12

bidji91 wrote:

Aqualung wrote:
Surely what you meant to ask is what the fuck are YOU doing in THEIR country (no hate as a religion)?
Go hang yourself

You must have worked hard on that one, good job Fido.

9,000 Photos from 1800’s British Mandate of Palestine – with no trace of ‘Palestinians’:

https://palestineisraelconflict.wordpre … estinians/

Where ARE all those Palestinians, the proclaimed one million of them who lived in Israel before they were ‘displaced’?

Nowhere.

Nowhere, because they never existed.

The British army permitted merely a few Ottomans to remain due to religious observations, the rest was Jewish. In reality according to eyewitness reports the barren British Mandate had a very small number of people living on it. Félix Bonfils (1831-1885) was a French photographer and writer who was active in the Middle East. Four years after his arrival he reported 15,000 prints of Egypt, Palestine, Syria, and Greece, and 9,000 stereoscopic-views. He traveled to the region several times and we hear of no mass population of Palestinians, which contradicts everything the Palestinians lie about to the world.

His pictures did not manage to capture any photographs of a single so-called ‘Palestinian’ who are suppose to have lost land to Jewish occupation, if we believe Arab propaganda. All he found was a few bedouines passing through and some remnants of the Ottoman Turks. Guess why? Because the “Palestinian” people as we know them today never existed.

The original philistines which the Arab jihadi’s named themselves after were a small group of lawless bandits who occupied the region near Gaza by force and died out before the birth of Christ. Islam was created over 600 years after the death of Christ and is the world’s youngest religion.

Palestinians are a fake creation ordered and constructed by the Grand Mufti Haj Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini [1889-1974]. They were basically discovered (formed and invented) and originate from mass immigration from Egypt and Saudi Arabia with purpose to commit jihad. The Egyptian fighters ended up in Gaza and the Saudi fighters ended up in the West Bank according to their rout of entry.

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Aqualung · 2015-10-29 11:23:20

This one is even in French just for you Fido!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOPfia8Dx5k

And another:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6Glz5o7Iv4

And there are hundreds more just like it. Not to worry though, it's all fake Zionist propaganda. Those pesky Jews, right?

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seventy · 2015-10-29 12:10:02

joint wrote:

Aqualung wrote:
Syndrum² wrote:
Aqualung who is paying you? xD
Morality, conscience, combating baseless hatred and most importantly, a strong desire to (at least attempt to) avoid repeating the perilous mistakes of history.
Ahaha! but look deeper into yourself (fading voice)deeper deeper deeper...:)

lol

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