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George S. Patton · 2014-07-31 00:00:51

What about all those rockets that are launched on Isreal?
Its just because Isreal got such a good defence system that can shoot that rockets out of the air.
Otherwise there were at least that many victims on the Isreali side.
And what about all those other bombing in Isreal, the kidnappings, the suicidebombings.
If there were some photos from that 3 kidnapped teenagers who got killed i could show them.

Hamas will allways be a terrosrist organisation wich has just one target; to kill as many jews as they can.
They are the aggressors. Isreal is just defending.
And the best defence has allways been to attack.

Vojislav · 2014-07-31 00:12:29

More looks like that hamas is and will be just a paravane for jewish silly bombing gaza with only one point, to force palestians to leave that territory and became part of israel

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HoOK · 2014-07-31 00:13:40

my answer still
Gaza: 1362 were killed. +7600 got injured ......no leg no hand whatever...(90% citizens)
about israel side : most of kills are from their army. (less than 150)
and where r u from?

dary · 2014-07-31 00:17:46

George S. Patton wrote:

In my opinion this video explains a lot.
Especially the questions he asks in the end of the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJA0g4ONt5c

What about the land Britain promised to Palestina and gave it to israel?

Nicely made video, even a kid with an iQ of 50 can understand it... Muslims are the bad guys and Israel the good guys. In reality it is not that easy to understand. Everything has a reason.

George S. Patton · 2014-07-31 00:21:00

Isreal doesn't even want Gaza! They never did!
But what would you do if some thugs keep firing rockets at your country and still kills your civilians.

Isreal never intended to kill civilians. Ans I personally feel really sorry for all those victims.
I wish they stop fighting and start talking!

But Hamas will never stop killing jews.
Their officially motto is: 'We love death as much as the jews love life'
And they kill innocent civilians on purpose!
Isreal never attacks civilian targets with the intention to kill civilians.
And yes, sadly a lot of civilians get killed.
But Isreal at least try to fight to soldiers as meanwhile the only thing Hamas wants is to kill all of the jews.

And it doesn't matter where I'm from.

Vojislav · 2014-07-31 00:25:36

George S. Patton wrote:

Isreal never attacks civilian targets with the intention to kill civilians.

Am bet all those victims are grateful for their concern.

George S. Patton · 2014-07-31 00:33:09

The diffenrence is that teh Isreali people feel sorry for those civilian victims.
Hamas is happy by every civilian victim. The people that kill those civilians get cheered on and become hero's.

Isreal takes every attack that kills civilians under investigation.

seventy · 2014-07-31 00:47:36

George S. Patton wrote:

Isreal takes every attack that kills civilians under investigation.

Made me laugh harder than I ever have.

Syndrum² · 2014-07-31 00:59:34

George S. Patton wrote:

Isreal never attacks civilian targets with the intention to kill civilians.

George S. Patton · 2014-07-31 01:03:29

Lets just wait for a proper investigation. This are all just accusations.

Syndrum² · 2014-07-31 01:08:11

israel soldier shoot dutch volunteers who help victims in Gaza of Dutch red cross, it is on their official website.
this is also an accusation right?

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dary · 2014-07-31 10:10:41

George S. Patton wrote:

The diffenrence is that teh Isreali people feel sorry for those civilian victims.
Hamas is happy by every civilian victim. The people that kill those civilians get cheered on and become hero's.
Isreal takes every attack that kills civilians under investigation.

I saw a video where people were cheering after every rocket that hit Gaza. Not all people are the same.

And why do you compare Hamas with Israelian People? Hamas are extremists and idiots...

George S. Patton · 2014-07-31 10:17:35

Yes, sadly there are a lot of innocent victims in Gaza.

And what kind of volunteers are that?
The same kind that held an demonstration in The Hague that was organized bij ISIS?

I'm not saying that Isreal isn't wrong in this conflict.
But there not the agressors! There just defending themselves to some terrorist organisation like Hamas.
I don't compare them. I compare there acts. Because they are warring parties.
Isreal would never use there own civilians as a human shield.
There is proof Hamas does!

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Tuesday · 2014-07-31 12:14:27

George S. Patton wrote:

I'm not saying that Isreal isn't wrong in this conflict.
But there not the agressors! There just defending themselves to some terrorist organisation like Hamas.

Since 2001 Palestinian rocket and mortar attacks on Israel from Gaza have killed 28 people. You can't justify Israel invading Gaza and killing 1000+ Palestinians as defence.

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s[sk] · 2014-07-31 12:45:34

Tuesday wrote:

Since 2001 Palestinian rocket and mortar attacks on Israel from Gaza have killed 28 people. You can't justify Israel invading Gaza and killing 1000+ Palestinians as defence.

ok, i appoint you the virtual head of israel
what would be your actions to stop attacks on your citizens?

seventy · 2014-07-31 13:11:36

s[sk] wrote:

Tuesday wrote:
Since 2001 Palestinian rocket and mortar attacks on Israel from Gaza have killed 28 people. You can't justify Israel invading Gaza and killing 1000+ Palestinians as defence.
ok, i appoint you the virtual head of israel
what would be your actions to stop attacks on your citizens?

It would be invading Gaza and killing 1000+ Palestinians as defence.

s[sk] · 2014-07-31 13:16:19

seventy wrote:

It would be invading Gaza and killing 1000+ Palestinians as defence.

well, let's wait

i'd love to hear some solutions, so far i just heard hook's (kill all jews)

joint · 2014-07-31 13:31:55

its easy to appoint someone to expose his incompetence, suggesting a solution wont fetch same fun
btw, congratulations, Tuesday

George S. Patton · 2014-07-31 13:49:35

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJA0g4ONt5c

This guy puts it as simple as it is.

Ask yourself two simple questions.
1. What if Isreal stopped fighting forever?
2. What if Hamas and the palistinians stopped fighting forever?

I think the answers are real easy.

In my opinion the answers will be:
1. There will be a massacre and all jews will be slaughtered.
2. Finally there will be fair negotiations and peace will be there.

seventy · 2014-07-31 14:26:14

s[sk] wrote:

well, let's wait
i'd love to hear some solutions, so far i just heard hook's (kill all jews)

Since I already answered this question before and considering also your posts in the Ukranian thread, I take it you're a troll who likes to provoke?

s[sk] · 2014-07-31 14:46:17

seventy wrote:

I take it you're a troll who likes to provoke?

if that somehow helps you to cope with my opinions, feel free to think that, i'll be glad to help ;-)

Tuesday · 2014-07-31 14:59:12

s[sk] wrote:

Tuesday wrote:
Since 2001 Palestinian rocket and mortar attacks on Israel from Gaza have killed 28 people. You can't justify Israel invading Gaza and killing 1000+ Palestinians as defence.
ok, i appoint you the virtual head of israel
what would be your actions to stop attacks on your citizens?

Sadly I don't know the perfect solution, but I do know that I don't like countries invading each other. Since these attacks are coming from outside of Israel isn't it something the international community should deal with?

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s[sk] · 2014-07-31 15:17:43

Tuesday wrote:

Sadly I don't know the perfect solution, but I do know that I don't like countries invading each other.

i don't like that either
but i also don't see much difference between invasion (entering foreign territory) and shelling someone's territory from outside (and i'm even ignoring here those infiltrations to israel using tunnels)
i wouldn't mind to be proven horribly wrong when i think israel wouldn't go full force into gaza if hamas didn't constantly shoot at them and use tunnels to kill people but that's impossible to tell
so the only thing i can do is sit and wait until hamas stops doing what he's doing and then watch israeli reaction
if and when that happens, i don't know

Since these attacks are coming from outside of Israel isn't it something the international community should deal with?

but what can they do?
tell both sides to stop? doesn't seem to work
send some "peacekeeper" forces to gaza? that wouldn't end up very well

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Sunshine · 2014-07-31 15:20:56

Who are Hamas allies? Why don't they help them?

s[sk] · 2014-07-31 15:34:08

Sunshine wrote:

Who are Hamas allies? Why don't they help them?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/31/world … .html?_r=0

seventy · 2014-07-31 15:37:45

s[sk] wrote:

if that somehow helps you to cope with my opinions, feel free to think that, i'll be glad to help ;-)

Thanks for the confirmation.

Tuesday · 2014-07-31 16:17:43

s[sk] wrote:

Tuesday wrote:
Sadly I don't know the perfect solution, but I do know that I don't like countries invading each other.
i don't like that either
but i also don't see much difference between invasion (entering foreign territory) and shelling someone's territory from outside (and i'm even ignoring here those infiltrations to israel using tunnels)

The difference is that Israel's invasion of Gaza has caused far more deaths than Palestine's rocket attacks on Israel so for me I don't believe it can be classed as defence, it sounds more like offence.

s[sk] wrote:

i wouldn't mind to be proven horribly wrong when i think israel wouldn't go full force into gaza if hamas didn't constantly shoot at them and use tunnels to kill people but that's impossible to tell

Sounds like you are saying you wouldn't mind Israel going full force into Gaza unprovoked. Surely that isn't what you mean?

s[sk] wrote:

Tuesday wrote:
Since these attacks are coming from outside of Israel isn't it something the international community should deal with?
but what can they do?
tell both sides to stop? doesn't seem to work
send some "peacekeeper" forces to gaza? that wouldn't end up very well

Like I said, "Sadly I don't know the perfect solution", I just know that I don't think this invasion will solve the problems.

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s[sk] · 2014-07-31 16:33:33

Tuesday wrote:

The difference is that Israel's invasion of Gaza has caused far more deaths than Palestine's rocket attacks on Israel so for me I don't believe it can be classed as defence, it sounds more like offence.

and that's why i originally asked what would you do
i don't know many countries that would tolerate being shot at and i don't think you'd want to live in one
should israel disable their defense system so they can argument with number of casualties? that'd be stupid

s[sk] wrote:
i wouldn't mind to be proven horribly wrong when i think israel wouldn't go full force into gaza if hamas didn't constantly shoot at them and use tunnels to kill people but that's impossible to tell
Sounds like you are saying you wouldn't mind Israel going full force into Gaza unprovoked. Surely that isn't what you mean?

i would mind that because that would be wrong
i just tried to say that i wouldn't mind being proven wrong about israel because i'm not one of those that can't accept to be wrong when confronted with rational arguments and/or verifiable facts

Vojislav · 2014-07-31 19:32:04

s[sk] wrote:

but what can they do?tell both sides to stop? doesn't seem to worksend some "peacekeeper" forces to gaza? that wouldn't end up very well

I would like to see how western ''warkeepers'' show some dignity in world conflicts and for example take sanctions against israel for this bloodbath. They dont need fake tapes for excuse, there is enough evidence in schools in gaza

George S. Patton · 2014-07-31 19:38:27

Vojislav wrote:

s[sk] wrote:
but what can they do?tell both sides to stop? doesn't seem to worksend some "peacekeeper" forces to gaza? that wouldn't end up very well
I would like to see how western ''warkeepers'' show some dignity in world conflicts and for example take sanctions against israel for this bloodbath. They dont need fake tapes for excuse, there is enough evidence in schools in gaza

There is also other evidence about that schools. Evidence delivered by the UN.
Hamas uses thats schools to store their weapons and rockets.
And what kind of sanctions should they take against Hamas?
Hamas still is classified as a terrorist organisation.

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