#1 2022-07-29 02:43:21

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(GER)Hammer

hi all

today i had the encounter with a very disrespectfull and quite mouthy player


this (GER)Hammer told me i had to obey the rules, first time i saw him
after he told me i was a taxibailer

i didnt really understand what he ment,
then he told me it was not allowed to jump from a plane?!

now i actually did read the rules, and the rules say, dont take a plane, just to bail,
other might wait for that ect, i totally agree to that,
its to prevent that some players dont get a plane, when they like to,
just to make a game nicer, can't agree more..

but, this guy kept yelling in chat that it was not allowed to jump anyhow,
called me all kind of names, noob, taxibailer (like 10 times),
kinda made me angry, very disruptive, extremely distracting, not nice

and after that he was hardcore camping like crazy with a tank, so silly
and he kept going on and on i was a noob, taxibailer, whatever,
to me rules are there to make a game fair and nice to all players,
hardcore camping, and being very loud in chat and insulting, well,
thats quite the oposite

clearly he's german, even told him that, befehl ist befehl smile

this guy seems not to understand the rules, or why the rules are there
and it might even very hard to tell him, that u actually can jump from a plane,
why else would we have parachutes?

in many many maps its quite common to jump a plane, to get the game going,
in some maps there are even transporter planes specially for that reason,
jumping from a plane happens all the time

anyway,

hard to deal with someone like this, he's very rude, even his excuse for camping was "defending"
and its allowed, he claimed
yep, being a total jerk in game is allowed, but also acceptable?

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#2 2022-07-29 03:02:46

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How about the truth?

I told horst the truth in a private message.

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#3 2022-07-29 05:05:28

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Hammer wrote:

How about the truth?

I told horst the truth in a private message.


what truth?

that your a complete jerk in the chat, a hardcore camper in game,
so just in general a troll?

good boy for sending a admin a pb,

whats actually kinda sad,
did read some posts of you,
your pretty good at playing the innocent great player,
makes you even a bigger troll

if it was my decision, you would be banned for trolling like this,
lets hope this admin is mature enough to see trough your lies, and selective messages

guys like you should not be allowed to play online and ruin the game for others

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#4 2022-07-29 09:46:28

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Re: (GER)Hammer

If a new player doesn't know the rules it would be great to point that out.
Insulting doesn't help anyone.
Now the point of rules seems to have been clarified and now please be nicer to each other. Please make a fresh start. That would be great. smile

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#5 2022-07-29 11:21:02

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RaketenHorst wrote:

If a new player doesn't know the rules it would be great to point that out.
Insulting doesn't help anyone.
Now the point of rules seems to have been clarified and now please be nicer to each other. Please make a fresh start. That would be great. smile


hello Raketenhorst

so you are the "Horst" he mentioned

i don't recall to have asked about any ruling,
rules are very logic, and very clear to me,

its about this persons behaviour, whats actually very bad and, indeed insulting,
in words, and in general in the chat

pointing out rules if someone doesnt know them, great,
but thats completely something else then what this person did,
he was just straight forward insulting,

when i asked him to stop talking to me in the way he did,
he only said "taxibailer"
and didnt even join the game, just stayed on the server,
and kept talking and talking in a disruptive way

i didnt see any clarification about the point of rules to him either,

about the insults, this person should apologise for his behaviour,

i'm always a nice person btw, to people who like to play the game,
this person doesnt actually play the game, he's a troll of the worst kind,
very sneaky, misbehaving behind someone's back,
and acting like the great innocent player to admin's, as it seems

but its ok, everybody deserves a second chance, just hope he can behave next time

ill make sure that i can record his behaviour next time too,
ill stand by my opinion, players like this, if he doesnt change, only ruin it for others,
and should not even be allowed to play online

anyway

thx for the reaction

have a great weekend! smile

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#6 2022-07-29 22:55:15

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Next time remind him that chat spamming is against the rules too

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#7 2022-07-30 00:43:15

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Cicero_01 wrote:

Next time remind him that chat spamming is against the rules too

thx

good idea,

but i just really don't like to waste any energy  or time to players like this,

was checking his messages in this forum,
what clears up a bit, i don't think i have ever seen such childish behaviour,

reporting someone is one thing, if someone behaved badly,

but also requesting a ban, or "give someone a break" like he sais,
and even be surprised if there is no immediate action on his report,
quite sad..
specially concidering that he's a hardcore camper and overall
a pretty bad player in the game,
no teamplay, no gameplay, just for the scores,
and then calling people out for following the, or his rules

so why is he in the game?
very sure not because he likes the game,
to me he's just here to troll people,

thx for the reaction anyway smile

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#8 2022-07-30 03:15:22

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Granddad has to exaggerate completely so that he can present himself as a victim.

Just so, admins can look at the logs and then see what's true wink

I played four maps with him.

In the first map (Baytown) I probably have written 5 messages about taxibailing with him, but related to another player who bailed several times.

The next map was Kbely Airfield and there I defended from the hill with the tank (there were only 3 or 4 players on) and also attacked up to the flag next to the bridge!
He then constantly wanted to provoke, but he was unsuccessful --> I just kept playing.

The third map was Santo Croce and there were a total of 3 players (later 4) in the game.
The one on the axis side and I (i was with Granddad at the allied side) didn't played at the begin --> I tried to change the map with a vote and waited for the result.
But Granddad decided to take the Mosquito, flew one round above the top flag and bailed at the flag next to the axis bridges --> without attacking something --> all bots were still in the bases!
Then I wrote maybe 15 messages in 15-20 minutes, he at least 30 or more --> so who would be the radio / chat spammer? wink
My first message was: "exactly that is taxibailing".
Of course he denied it and said "dude, stop talking to me ok"  "u suck". After that I wrote "taxibailer" and "noob" and he came up with "jerk, bigmouth and noob".
And "must be german", "typical German", "Befehl ist Befehl".
Then I was called a troll and "get a life"...
At one point i ignored him and played a few minutes --> mapvote ended the map.

I didn't even wrote to him on the next and last map (Mimoyecques) but he was constantly insulting and trying to give orders to his team (allied), so they wrote he should calm down wink

His attitude, which he has also expressed, is:
Rules are there to make a game fair, but if they take away the fun they can be ignored!


In the future I will put him on the ignore list because he has to provoke all the time.
I had already seen him constantly insulting and giving orders to his team on some maps before (on other days) wink

I am sure that he will deny everything again and would like to continue to provoke / insult.

So much for the facts and the truth!

That's all I'm going to write about it now.
I'm not going to waste another minute arguing with him and getting angry at him.
It is just wasted time.
He will try to turn it around every time.

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#9 2022-07-30 11:59:51

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Ger hammer why pretend to be someone else? You're a troll and a jerk. What, scared to let people know about it? I'll do it for you


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A tk for not getting the tank + disconnect right after, come back and lie. No class coward

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#10 2022-07-30 14:36:05

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I wrote you what happend on that day (was already a few weeks ago).
Game crashed and dont know how you were tked.
And that's the truth, even if you don't want to believe it!

Unfortunately, I had the case a few times before (on different servers --> also on sc servers like oz wake) that the game crashed when I left vehicles and they were then destroyed.
I still don't know why.

My game also crashes frequently when I go back to windows (with alt+tab).
I just had it again a minute ago.


And please tell the full story.

After I rejoined and you wrote that in the chat, I apologized, although I'm not sure how it happened, and we played just a normal round!

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#11 2022-07-31 01:15:29

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Hammer wrote:

Granddad has to exaggerate completely so that he can present himself as a victim.

He then constantly wanted to provoke, but he was unsuccessful --> I just kept playing.


The one on the axis side and I (i was with Granddad at the allied side) didn't played at the begin --> I tried to change the map with a vote and waited for the result.

But Granddad decided to take the Mosquito, flew one round above the top flag and bailed at the flag next to the axis bridges --> without attacking something --> all bots were still in the bases!

Then I wrote maybe 15 messages in 15-20 minutes, he at least 30 or more --> so who would be the radio / chat spammer? wink
My first message was: "exactly that is taxibailing".

and he came up with "noob".

At one point i ignored him and played a few minutes --> mapvote ended the map.

I didn't even wrote to him on the next and last map (Mimoyecques) but he was constantly insulting and trying to give orders to his team (allied), so they wrote he should calm down wink

His attitude, which he has also expressed, is:
Rules are there to make a game fair, but if they take away the fun they can be ignored!

In the future I will put him on the ignore list because he has to provoke all the time.

I had already seen him constantly insulting and giving orders to his team on some maps before (on other days) wink

So much for the facts and the truth!

He will try to turn it around every time.


like i said, most childish behaviour i have ever seen,

thx for proving that point Hammer,

talking about truth??

all the lines above are straight up lies!!


im on the servers for like a week,
and i actually never give any orders, only thing i use to say anything
is the "roger that"
this encounter was actually the first time i typed more then 3 words in chat,
im in the game to play the game, and not to insult other like this hero does..


turning things around? deny what i said?
absolutely not

your a massive troll, and to me and clearly others the worst thing what could join a great game like this,

ill repeat what i said earlier in chat, get a life!!

one more thing i noticed,

if your waiting for a mapchange, whats complete bs
and you can actually watch this "But Granddad decided to take the Mosquito, flew one round above the top flag and bailed at the flag next to the axis bridges --> without attacking something --> all bots were still in the bases!"

that also means your a cheater right?

or not? if not, your completely talking out your ass

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#12 2022-07-31 01:33:38

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Hammer wrote:

His attitude, which he has also expressed, is:
Rules are there to make a game fair, but if they take away the fun they can be ignored!


still surprised about the number of lies in your comment,
but this has to be the biggest one

"rules are there to make a game fair and nice for everyone"
thats what i said,
completed with something like, "try to understand the rules"


"but if they take away the fun they can be ignored!"

you completely made that up, and for a few reasons
to justify your own trolling, and simply to make me look bad,
great idea..

i challenge every admin to find that line, or something like that
in the loggs, reward is €100,-

if its not there, i also offer €100,- to ban this prick for a month smile

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#13 2022-07-31 01:46:25

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Only for example:

Taxibailing at Santo Croce (check tickets and time round starts at 36 minutes (?) and 600 tickets --> bots blocked him at af --> well known problem at Santo Croce):
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"Commanding" and insulting at Mimoyecques + a small part of the discussion with your teammates. Sorry, were playing and i couldn't make any screens of the rest wink :
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You played round about 26 hours since the 8. July (22 days!):
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And i saw you several times at the server.
And you always were trying to command your team and you were insulting them as "idiots, jerks,..." if the havent done what you want wink

You said you have played the game before?
If you don't spawn, you can watch your teammates.
This is also how admins check you in the game (for the first check).

Stay by the truth!

If you are really 54, your behaviour is really childish!
Your choice of words shows it too.


You have written things like that.

Again, stay by the truth!


And now i will not waste more time with a guy like you, who is only able to insult --> childish behaviour!
I hope you get a break for that.
But the chances are good if you continue to write in the chat like that wink

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#14 2022-07-31 12:29:00

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...

Mann, könnt ihr beide Euch bitte zusammenreisen?

...

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#15 2022-07-31 16:35:27

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lol

more lies Hammer??

so what was the reason you didnt spawn again?
"i was waiting for a mapchange" right..
where are your comments you made in that period?

you were not spawning to troll me, and to get your "truth"??

so silly

thats "some idiot" comment was a joke, and the player
who i reffered too is actually a nice player,
and we were joking around, nothing more, nothing less

againt twisting words, like almost everything..

about "truth"

you use that a lott, i'm pretty sure you don't realise what that mean concidering all the lies,

@Arkos, great idea, maybe i should be the adult, and just leave it alone,
but this also makes me smile, this dude is paniking, because he's busted with his lies..

i played yesterday too, should ask players like Nickajack, and ladyenforcerer how they reacted
and think about his style of "gameplay"


this dude is a total disgrace for this game

@Arkos, can you close this topic?

nuff said smile

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#16 2022-08-02 06:59:08

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For me it looks (again), that the "taxibailing-rule" is your try Hammer, to invent your own rule to correct other players. IMO there is no such taxibailing-rule. As granddad says, sometimes its tactic to use a plane as taxi to get a flag, like in essen or mimo.

We discussed this already in this topic and head admin Paul Baumer stated clearly, that this rule is not existing:
https://team-simple.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=8637

So stop accusing others for things that are not forbidden.

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#17 2022-08-02 10:50:47

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Re: (GER)Hammer

From server rules as published by Hillbillyninja

Server rules update 2022 -04-04 

part of the rules :

TAXI
It is forbidden to use a vehicle as a "taxi" to get to a plane faster.
Do not take a jeep or a tank to the airfield to get in a plane, abandoned jeeps and tanks and vehicles driving around on the airstrip cause nothing but accidents /Walk to the airfield!
Also wasting a plane using it as a taxi just to bail / There are other players to consider/Think of the player waiting on the plane to use it for its intended purpose.

Please note: all rules pertain to players and Admin as well.

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#18 2022-08-02 14:32:15

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I can confirm Hammer is neurotic to the bone. He once banned me on Oz Wake where he obviously is admin on. I remember him getting super angry as I was leaving him no chance to do anything on the map. It is fairly easy to keep the upper hand on small maps like Wake as a pilot when there are just a handful players online. He accused me for cheating and banned me thereafter.

I understand it feels unfair to get owned by air (he was essentially grounding) but there are other ways to express a feeling of unfairness than simply perm ban.
I would put Nameless or Abas on the exact same level who both are not ideal to get the job done due to bad personality factors and a false understanding of neutrality in making decisions. However, maybe that is exactly part of the diversity and tolerance in mentalities program by tuia. The server would not be as much fun without those controversies, right? big_smile

I assume tuia picked them a long time ago because of their reasonable scores, which are mostly achieved by exploiting game mechanisms and abusing admin rights. Don’t outscore them or you will become their target.

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#19 2022-08-02 14:59:09

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Funny report 'wastemytime'   
Hammer was NEVER admin on OZ wake..
If you got banned it was probably by ME and it means you were or taxibailing, or parkbombing, or teamstacking or being disruptive....

I also boot for idiotic offensive names and the silly stupid 'standard' names like Player or Bfsoldier or Jugador.

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#20 2022-08-02 15:18:53

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Well then maybe you and Hammer are closely connected and he cried his bottom off tongue

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#21 2022-08-02 17:09:35

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You are free to assume anything you want,I just stated facts.....

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#22 2022-08-02 22:08:44

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Dr.ZoidbergCLAW wrote:

From server rules as published by Hillbillyninja

Server rules update 2022 -04-04 

part of the rules :

TAXI
It is forbidden to use a vehicle as a "taxi" to get to a plane faster.
Do not take a jeep or a tank to the airfield to get in a plane, abandoned jeeps and tanks and vehicles driving around on the airstrip cause nothing but accidents /Walk to the airfield!
Also wasting a plane using it as a taxi just to bail / There are other players to consider/Think of the player waiting on the plane to use it for its intended purpose.

Please note: all rules pertain to players and Admin as well.

quite exactly what i mean,

i tried to tell this Hammer several times to try to understand the rules,
or understand the meaning of it..

"wasting a plane, using it as a taxi just to bail / there are other players to concider..

on the SiMPLE | RtR+SW server are not so many players as on the main server,
the previous discussion was, where there were 3 or 4 players on the server,
and ofcourse the pro players...the bots smile

then ofcourse its tactical to use a plane to get somewhere fast,
its not wasting a plane, you don't bother anyone else with it, at all

besides that,Hammer also claimed that it was written that its forbidden
to bail from a plane if its undamaged, or not used to kill or destroy something,
nope..not the case

btw, according to hammer admins kick or ban people for this, saying its forbidden to jump from a plane,
in maps like Essen, to me that doesn't make sense, why would that be forbidden?,
its quite tactical, in anciet warfare, as in modern warfare

how did the Allies get in Arhem 1945 so fast?, pretty sure they didnt swim smile

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#23 2022-08-02 22:59:26

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I'm kinda sure that if you bailed alone behind enemy lines in wartimes then you would get shot or captured.......
Stop comparing this game to 'real life war"....
And downvoting me for this kinda sheit is not making a very good impression of your intentions here on me  wink


I just posted you the rules .....then you changed them to your favor........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-imfjwhDM0A

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#24 2022-08-04 11:35:39

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Dr.ZoidbergCLAW wrote:

I'm kinda sure that if you bailed alone behind enemy lines in wartimes then you would get shot or captured.......
Stop comparing this game to 'real life war"....
And downvoting me for this kinda sheit is not making a very good impression of your intentions here on me  wink


I just posted you the rules .....then you changed them to your favor........

lol

telling me to stop comparing, after you do it urself?


you sure i'm the one who needs to make a "good" impression?
or is that exactly the admin's job?

and maybe stop threatening me?
telling who downvoted you comment,
without asking, or even concidering why?
great, you just made me look bad,
for an admin...not such a good impression..

and my intentions are very clear,

i like to play this game in a normal matter, without trolls like this Hammer

and yep, you posted the rules,
and i quoted them, i didnt change anything!

but basicly, what you mean,
is that its not allowed to bail from a plane behind enemy "lines" ???


i'm pretty sure thats not the intention of this rule, at all,

and maybe stop protection your friend Hammer?

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#25 2022-08-04 12:45:14

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You said you wouldn't want a player banned     except Hammer then?
And where am I comparing this game with real war?

And yes , as a new player it is you who needs to make a good impression,not the admin.
Also,if you consider these posts threats, you have had an easy life so far...or don't understand simple replies to words you say.

Downvoting a quoted server rule isn't silly in your eyes?  You just wanted a personal attack right?
And I am not an admin on Simple so I'm really not concerned with how you see that.

Seems your intention is using vehicles to taxi to flags  (ps  I repeat  : not allowed,also very clear?)

Please refer all future taxibail questions to a s1mple admin .Thank you.

Now settle your petty squabbles with Hammer...nothing constructive becomes of it.

Love   

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#26 2022-08-04 20:39:38

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Dr.ZoidbergCLAW wrote:

You said you wouldn't want a player banned     except Hammer then?
And where am I comparing this game with real war?

And yes , as a new player it is you who needs to make a good impression,not the admin.
Also,if you consider these posts threats, you have had an easy life so far...or don't understand simple replies to words you say.

Downvoting a quoted server rule isn't silly in your eyes?  You just wanted a personal attack right?
And I am not an admin on Simple so I'm really not concerned with how you see that.

Seems your intention is using vehicles to taxi to flags  (ps  I repeat  : not allowed,also very clear?)

Please refer all future taxibail questions to a s1mple admin .Thank you.

Now settle your petty squabbles with Hammer...nothing constructive becomes of it.

Love   

Zoidy


maybe you should start reading before making any comments?

i NEVER use a vehicle to get a plane..that wasn't ever the point...

lol, this gets more and more silly,

can a admin with some common sense close this topic?

btw, i'm not even a "new" player, (ps, i repeat!! really should start reading before making ANY comment...) smile

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#27 2022-08-04 22:24:36

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Re: (GER)Hammer

For your clarification   :taxibailing   :using a plane with the only purpose to bail over a base to cap the flag ......I said nothing about using a vehicle to get to a plane....

If you haven't comprehended this by now this might be a lost cause again.

Ps : I did read it before making my comments....do you?

Let's hope an admin sees you do it and boots you for it.....wouldn't be the first...

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#28 2022-08-05 22:04:45

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Re: (GER)Hammer

like i said,

this is getting silly

the headline of this is called "Report abuse"

not, "let every silly dude write in this section after a report"

so, ill ask again if a admin can close this topic, since i cant delete it, or even end it


and someone clearify the meaning of this "rule"
and please don't tell me these dudes are right that its not
allowed to bail from a plane to capture a flag, or just for tactict

i did find this statement:

Paul Baumer wrote:
Your statement is fully correct Alex, using intact planes to bail on flags never been forbidden.Using AW-52 only to drop from it to a flag is not very smart, but it's allowed by rules big_smile

but, this was published before the "new" rules were admitted,
and i can't know what was written about this before

but i really can't imagine this statement has changed

this:

"Also wasting a plane using it as a taxi just to bail / There are other players to consider/Think of the player waiting on the plane to use it for its intended purpose"

is one line, and in simple grammar, is the secondary part leading, the "why" this rule exists,
what these guys do, is pick the first part, and make that the leading part..
...its forbidden, thats it..

well, honestly, thats just ........(fill in the blank)

@Dr.ZoidbergCLAW,
"taxibailing" you made that up yourself?
its not an existing word, it not to be found in the rules,
and goes the same as for Hammer, he uses this always too,
or you are Hammer, hidden in some other id?
Hammer doesnt react anymore, kinda suspicious..
seems he or you do that a lott
stop making things up!!

besides that, stop making this personal, your not an admin,
so your comments don't make any sense,
just stop typing if you have no clue what you talk about...

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#29 2022-08-08 21:31:43

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Re: (GER)Hammer

another example of how this Hammer dude behaves,

someone pointed out the negative reputation point i got,

just checked,

only yesterday, Hammer, Woolf, and lage gave me negative reputation points,
Hammer is well known, the other 2 are new id's on this server, with zero comments,
1+1 is still 2, so this is Hammer too, it even rhymes smile

as said, he's a little prick

just not smart enough to hide it smile

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#30 2022-08-09 01:30:31

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The two accounts are from buddies of mine.
They and two others were at my house from Friday to Monday (holiday --> playing Play Station,... --> yes, we still meet for that --> more fun) and noticed the matter.
First one created an account and then a few days later an other one.

These actions were their own decisions.
I didn't tell them to do this.
But they found it simply unfair what was being done, especially because a few others got involved and also rated me negatively.

But I told them yesterday that they should actually stay out of it.
I'm allowed to negatively evaluate false claims, etc., but not others.

If they come back today, I'll tell them again that they should delete their accounts --> if they can even do it themselves?

It is clear to me that there may be some don't want to believe it, but that's how it is.


And no, I'm not Zoid.
Zoid is an old well-known player.

I haven't written here any more because a few days ago I made it clear, that I won't write something more about that subject.

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