#421 2022-04-01 11:55:22

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yes and thats one community that you wont be working with any time soon. Have fun with your new friends in China.

Sounds like you dont like Chinese.

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#422 2022-04-01 12:18:08

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yes and thats one community that you wont be working with any time soon. Have fun with your new friends in China.

Sounds like you dont like Chinese.

I appriciate some core values in life and much of those values are diffrent types of freedoms like freedom to vote, freedom from violence, freedom of speech, freedom to own things well I like beeing free to make my own decisions.

I like some chineese people and I actually had a chineese guy living with me for half a year. I rented a room to a chineese student who told me about the protest and the freedom fights in Hong Kong. He told me about how the students in China were inspired by the Ukrainians and their freedom fight in 2014. They wanted to do the same in China because they want the same freedom as I have and the same as the Ukrainians want to have also. I loved the chineese people when they tried to revolt in Tinanmen Squere in 1989 and also when they tried to protest in 2019. I also love the russians who dare to protest against the war - all my respect to them.

The Chineese people who fight for the same values as I do and as the Ukrainians do and also as some russians do - well those people I like alot. We share the same values in life. But the systems in Russia and in China that do not support and share these values I do not like. I dont like intolerance and opression.

I dont like when you arrest people who express their views or when you attack other people just because you dont like their choices.

What core values in life do you have - what is importent to you? think about it...

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#423 2022-04-01 13:22:14

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I appriciate some core values in life and much of those values are diffrent types of freedoms like freedom to vote, freedom from violence, freedom of speech, freedom to own things well I like beeing free to make my own decisions.

I like some chineese people and I actually had a chineese guy living with me for half a year. I rented a room to a chineese student who told me about the protest and the freedom fights in Hong Kong. He told me about how the students in China were inspired by the Ukrainians and their freedom fight in 2014. They wanted to do the same in China because they want the same freedom as I have and the same as the Ukrainians want to have also. I loved the chineese people when they tried to revolt in Tinanmen Squere in 1989 and also when they tried to protest in 2019. I also love the russians who dare to protest against the war - all my respect to them.

The Chineese people who fight for the same values as I do and as the Ukrainians do and also as some russians do - well those people I like alot. We share the same values in life. But the systems in Russia and in China that do not support and share these values I do not like. I dont like intolerance and opression.

I dont like when you arrest people who express their views or when you attack other people just because you dont like their choices.

What core values in life do you have - what is importent to you? think about it...

So you hate all Russians want to ban all Russians from everywhere, but you like "some Chinese people". Why can't you like "some" Russians?
Not all of us supports Ukraine occupation (me, for example), but you would like to see all sanctions for me too.
Smells like double standards, itsn't it?

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#424 2022-04-01 13:54:21

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So you hate all Russians want to ban all Russians from everywhere, but you like "some Chinese people". Why can't you like "some" Russians?
Not all of us supports Ukraine occupation (me, for example), but you would like to see all sanctions for me too.
Smells like double standards, itsn't it?

No if you read what I wrote you wont find anything about me hating all russians. I just dont like them who supports the invasion and the killing of civilians.  But sadly enough the majority of all russians support this war.

Sanctions cant be directed only to those who support the invasion and not towards the others. Its impossible to direct sanctions just to them. Therefor in order to sanction the russians who support this the sanctions must be directed towards all russians. Thats why I think all russians should be banned from the server.

What do you think that we should do? Should everyone just be quiet and let the invasion go on?

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#425 2022-04-01 14:16:39

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the invasion of Irak lasted like 8 YEARS and a half and EEUU lost 4900 soldiers aprox.

Russia in this invasion have lost like 6.000/8.000 soldiers in just 3 WEEKS, it is a total disaster.

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#426 2022-04-01 16:15:04

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the invasion of Irak lasted like 8 YEARS and a half and EEUU lost 4900 soldiers aprox.

Russia in this invasion have lost like 6.000/8.000 soldiers in just 3 WEEKS, it is a total disaster.

how many civilians has been killed in Iraq?
If our army starts shooting everything what is moving, will be another scenario...

Where did you get 6000/8000? Our side give one digit, Ukraine side gives another digit.
Where did you get thruth digit?

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#427 2022-04-01 16:21:24

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So Karlsson I respect and like all russians that are against the invasion and I respect them even more if they dare to protest against it in some way. I know that can be hard to do since you will get arrested for doing so but still it is the right thing to do. If more end more russians would protest against this and get Putin replaced then there would still be some hope for Russia and the relations with the western demochracies... but it might be to late even if Putin were to be replaced today. But I guess its never to late to turn around and choose another road - but even so this will have long term cosequences and not just for russians but for world economy aswell...

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#428 2022-04-01 16:41:20

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I know that can be hard to do since you will get arrested for doing so but still it is the right thing to do.

Yes, it is right thing to do.
But i have wife and son, and first i have to think about their future.
I'm only who works in my family, so i can't risk to be arrested.
My family is my priority.

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#429 2022-04-01 16:58:25

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I know that can be hard to do since you will get arrested for doing so but still it is the right thing to do.

Yes, it is right thing to do.
But i have wife and son, and first i have to think about their future.
I'm only who works in my family, so i can't risk to be arrested.
My family is my priority.

Yes I understand and I respect that - its hard choices but family first.

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#430 2022-04-01 23:53:32

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That's the difference between real Leaders and Kleptocrats.

Those guys stay, others leave the country, as far it does not work as expected. (Janukovitsch).


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If you ask me, the perfect people in charge.

Does not look to me, they want be somewhere else.


U1.jpg


U2.jpg

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What you think about the attack on the Depot in Belgorod.

False Flag Operation from Russia to provide a reason to strike harder or really an Ukrainian Helicopter Attack under the radar.

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#431 2022-04-02 00:09:23

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What you think about the attack on the Depot in Belgorod.

False Flag Operation from Russia to provide a reason to strike harder or really an Ukrainian Helicopter Attack under the radar.

...

Could be false flag but could also be strategy - smart to move the war into the enemies soil instead of your own...

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#432 2022-04-02 00:12:48

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You know, ... people talk about Gaz and Oil, ... but France has 56 AKW's, all burning with Russian Nuclear Fuel Rods.

Also Swiss has Uran from Russia for those 4 old, small AKW's.

Ok, ... The dependency for the involved countries is not that great as Russian Gaz for Germany, ... but still a part of the game.

Btw. Also Finland has planned a new Reactor builded by Rosatom.

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Hungary... has 85% of its Gaz from Russia, ofc. the do not support the sanctions, ... beside Hungary builds a Russian AKW, founded by Russia smile

I guess you all know the situation in Hungary. Not far from the Russian system.

Orban just changed the Constitution to disqualify the Opposition.

Now a Party must reach 7% instead of 5% to get the authorization to enter authorities.

Just enough so they can't reach it.  (Many a mickle makes a muckle).

...

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#433 2022-04-02 00:24:44

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Hungary... has 85% of its Gaz from Russia, ofc. the do not support the sanctions, ... beside Hungary builds a Russian AKW, founded by Russia smile

I guess you all know the situation in Hungary. Not far from the Russian system.

Orban just changed the Constitution to disqualify the Opposition.

Now a Party must reach 7% instead of 5% to get the authorization to enter authorities.

Just enough so they can't reach it.  (Many a mickle makes a muckle).

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Yes they are very dependent so thats why I guess... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCqNK1vOMN0

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#434 2022-04-02 00:32:27

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Perhaps that's the right time the get it running a traveling-wave reactor, so they can burn all this atomic waste.

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#435 2022-04-02 09:40:28

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The Russian mentality is different from the European mentality. For them, it is not freedom that counts, but "being a global player", a show of strength. Pride in being Russian.

In all my life, I have never met two completely identical people.
And you speak for the character of the WHOLE nation.
it is the most powerfulindicator of low intelligence and dichotomous thinking in you and simon, worse than stupidity - only stubborn stupidity.

I've laughed enough and I'm tired of facepalms, so bb smile

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#436 2022-04-02 10:38:35

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By "russian mentality" I don't target anyone individually, it's the impression that your nation lets out with its past and current actions.
If the U.S can place its military bases in other countries without firing a single shot and people being happy about it, then kudos.. You have to understand why people see russia in a very bad way, even though usa has done some truly ugly things. You should also understand that sometimes people don't care about the truth and sometimes it doesn't even matter.
If someone threatens you with a gun and later you go into their home and kill their family, you're going to jail and you won't be seen as a hero. So persia, what do you want the west to say?

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#437 2022-04-02 10:55:32

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#438 2022-04-02 12:51:41

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Casca wrote:
Arkos wrote:

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What you think about the attack on the Depot in Belgorod.

False Flag Operation from Russia to provide a reason to strike harder or really an Ukrainian Helicopter Attack under the radar.

...

Could be false flag but could also be strategy - smart to move the war into the enemies soil instead of your own...

Do you think two Ukrainian fighter helicopters would be able to enter Russian airspace and strike a depot wihtout being destroyed within a minute?

Sounds very unrealistic to me. We all know its a false flag.

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#439 2022-04-02 12:52:36

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I know that can be hard to do since you will get arrested for doing so but still it is the right thing to do.

Yes, it is right thing to do.
But i have wife and son, and first i have to think about their future.
I'm only who works in my family, so i can't risk to be arrested.
My family is my priority.

Good luck Karlson, also for your family.

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#440 2022-04-02 15:46:18

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Last night i saw parts of a talk with Lea Ypi. (She talks english, you can activate subs).

A pretty clear view this woman has and parts of it describes the life, (and the problems), and the thinking, (from the people), in this world, does not matter, where you live.


https://youtu.be/u4rVh_8rFpE

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#441 2022-04-02 20:00:14

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#442 2022-04-02 20:04:55

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Arkos wrote:

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Last night i saw parts of a talk with Lea Ypi. (She talks english, you can activate subs).

A pretty clear view this woman has and parts of it describes the life, (and the problems), and the thinking, (from the people), in this world, does not matter, where you live.


https://youtu.be/u4rVh_8rFpE

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German subs and voice dubbed to german…mmm… smile

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#443 2022-04-02 20:10:19

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I meant automatic translate smile

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#444 2022-04-02 21:58:42

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I hope, i wish this is not what i am seeing. Just WTF. After Russians left Bucha, they started killing all men aged 18-60.

https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/15101 … lNoNs4dLSw

https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/151 … XhhM66l55w

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I hope, i wish this is not what i am seeing. Just WTF. After Russians left Bucha, they started killing all men aged 18-60.

https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/15101 … lNoNs4dLSw

https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/151 … XhhM66l55w

Yes I saw that - its really awful - civilians just shoot down in the streets - hundreds of bodies... I will not link to those videos...here is one link before and after the Russians ocupied Bucha....im out of words...

Before the Orcs came...

https://fb.watch/c8rk22lRsk/

(sound on)

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#446 2022-04-03 00:30:34

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I hope, i wish this is not what i am seeing. Just WTF.

After Russians left Bucha, they started killing all men aged 18-60.

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They talk about 20 dead people, one tied, one a Headsot. All were in one Street.

And it seems a Tank drove over a Car, while the people were still inside.

I tell you something. In a war people die.

It would be an Illusion to think, it's possible, that involved soldiers have them self always under control.

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/russian-re … v/47486654

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#447 2022-04-03 01:10:58

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20 civilians dead in one street yes but 300 dead in massgraves and other dead in other streets…

https://twitter.com/afp/status/15102981 … qe2PiahgLg

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Putin still rage for being called a war-criminal after this?

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#449 2022-04-03 09:49:10

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Putin still rage for being called a war-criminal after this?

They also mined some of the dead bodies…

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#450 2022-04-03 10:35:38

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Casca, what kind of air defense system do Sweds have?
Just a rhetorical question.. bcs nothing can stop Kinzhal.
U armed ukraine with NLAW, what do u think how smart that was? again rhetorical question.
Anyway, ur country will be overrunned with non-white non-christian population by the year 2050, first eu country where whites will be minority, congratulations! U r first at something, be happy, it's democracy.
Now go and disappear in some wooden cabin in far far north!

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