Player "OOO"

Horza · 2019-03-11 23:57:56

Hi, I dont know where to put the subject because there is no proof and I dont record video like on aX because of the afk kick.

Player 000 is regulary in the top of game or the #1 of games. Sure he's good (cheating doesnt mean you're the best) but, but... This guy is a cheater. I dont know what he uses, accuracy hack for sure, maybe not the maphack or other things but this guy can't just have a ratio (ratio kill per minute) more than 2 on every game (or 1.8).

Best players in game without cheats have 0.7 - 0.8 kill per minute, and that's not always.

This pic was during Bocage map, not Berlin or Stalingrad, Bocage.

Well I wait trolls and players from Yugoslavia ( :* ) where they were many of them to boo me because I accuse a player of cheating after the case Egon200 (what was really cheats on aX with lot of hacks, not only me but all players say the same on him, and this guy changes always names, like 000 was using an other name).

valento · 2019-03-12 01:23:32

I dont know if he cheats or not and i actually dont give a shit. But he have a very lame play style like nade spam, camping spawn points, thompson whore and so on. Maybe he changed since that time i remember him but i bet not at all.

Sunshine · 2019-03-12 01:32:00

I don't think he cheats, but as val said, his gameplay is definitely anti-team. Examples... as alliess on Stalingrad, he hopped in the tank to get to first flag, bailed out, and it got killed by mine. Total waste.

And then yesterday on midway. I was a gunner in his SBD. Because I know he bails on carrier most of the time, I asked nicely if he could please warn me when he bails so I don't die. I even told him where carrier was since he had no clue. He flew there, bombed, and bailed without even a warning. Luckily, I knew he does that so I was able to quickly switch to pilot. But still... though minor and didn't cause me to get killed, it's still incredibly selfish.

Zatoichi · 2019-03-12 01:37:17

If you watch him closely at the right times, he has wall haq, names visible through cover on, he cant stand being walked up on, or spawned in on his back and getting shot, he doesn't have it on always, but you'll see his habit of at certain spots, if you double back and go counter intuitive, try to follow, flank rush him, suddenly he doubles back, despite having seen no indication of your move, and is primed looking at you to fire, before actually breaking cover

Vojislav · 2019-03-12 04:18:20

As i remember he was recording all his rounds, so despite no team play, we should be quiet and get real proofs.

seVen · 2019-03-12 04:29:11

bud · 2019-03-12 13:40:15

He´s easy to deal with.

Horza · 2019-03-12 15:02:01

Cheating doesnt mean you're invicible. But yeah, always a good moment to kill a cheater.

I love how people can be in deni here. But I don't really care, I prefer to be the first to destroy the wall and open a discussion with you guys. If haters and trolls just come here to despise me well that doesn't defend your arguments.
Like fans of Michael Jackson who say he wasnt a pedo. What c*cks..

Flettnerman · 2019-03-12 15:28:37

I 100% agree with vale, but here you can see gameplay from his perspective.

RaketenHorst · 2019-03-12 15:34:32

bud wrote:

He´s easy to deal with.
http://bfo.pm/0000/rage-quit.png

oh bud bud bud

Sunshine · 2019-03-12 16:14:29

Horza wrote:

Cheating doesnt mean you're invicible. But yeah, always a good moment to kill a cheater.
I love how people can be in deni here. But I don't really care, I prefer to be the first to destroy the wall and open a discussion with you guys. If haters and trolls just come here to despise me well that doesn't defend your arguments.
Like fans of Michael Jackson who say he wasnt a pedo. What c*cks..

Disagreeing with you doesn't mean anyone "hates" or "despises" you.

We prefer to deal with facts when it comes to cheaters. Just because people believe X is a cheater doesn't mean we should automatically label them a cheater. He records a ton of his gameplay and does just as well in the videos he posts as he does in games where he hasn't posted videos.

Does that mean he isn't cheating? Not necessarily. There's always a chance he's cheating. Maybe there's a subtle cheat that we're not seeing in the videos. But the lack of proof means we won't ban him. If we were to ban everyone we or others suspect are cheating, then we'd be banning people left and right.

iCQ · 2019-03-12 16:22:34

Salut Horza!

bud wrote:

He´s easy to deal with.
http://bfo.pm/0000/rage-quit.png

LMAO... exactly what i was thinking (but i couldnt get my knive and PrntScreen ready).

Isn't 000 also known as BFSoldier??? Or geezzz i forgot all these other names...

Horza u are right... he plays a lot and he on top of score list almost all the time.

I have to be honest here... never at any moment i had him on the other team killing me with a cheating feeling. He plays low and dirty here and there...

Also i notice most people not really like him that much.

BUT... he does know the game, he is not a TK and he really GOES for a win. So in that way i like him to at least support my endeavors of making ALLIED or AXIS win for a change.

But in general, in this game, in other games, in real life... i do not like STAT-PADDERS and COIN-WHORES.

(all i can say he is a STAT-PADDER, we used to ban BF1942 stat-padders with no word back in the days on our server... but nobody really complained because u can get ur dirty high-score in so many servers).

Actually a stat-padder is to my believe legit... annoying but legit.

BUT GEEZZZ MAN GET URSELF A NAME ALREADY SO WE KNOW WHO THE WINNER IS

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Count ComBat · 2019-03-12 16:37:48

Afaic i think there is not much difference in using any hax-crap or just super-modified game-files, although the one thing is legitimately considered as illegal whilst the other1 sadly isnt - the result (unfair advantage to other players) remains the same..

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Zatoichi · 2019-03-12 16:43:07

Vojislav wrote:

As i remember he was recording all his rounds, so despite no team play, we should be quiet and get real proofs.

He never had it on during those times, as well as, he never exhibited any hack like suggesting behavior, you think he's recording or streaming at the times I see his very suspicious moments?
He knows when and when not to use it

Paul Baumer · 2019-03-12 17:00:04

valento wrote:

I dont know if he cheats or not and i actually dont give a shit. But he have a very lame play style like nade spam, camping spawn points, thompson whore and so on. Maybe he changed since that time i remember him but i bet not at all.

Flettnerman wrote:

I 100% agree with vale, but here you can see gameplay from his perspective.

You agree at 100% Flett?You had a go on me and Abas for way less than what Vale said in his first phrase.Apparently being an active and honest admin here doesn't even give you some respect - even from those who you consider friends.

@all
If you guys say he cheats record him, get a proof and ban him.Obviously his gameplay is lame and purely scorewhoring but that's not cheating, a part from the fact that many admins and known skilled players used to play the same way and even now sometimes do that: teamstack to easier team, spawn camping, suicide to respawn fast, camping near ammo boxes, grenades spam etc etc etc.

Sure its way easier call him a cheater than simply ask him for a video or record him yourself, mostly cause your own ego is hurting.Sure its easier to say: he can own me , so he's a damn cheater - instead of simply accept that he can be more skilled then you are.Sure its easier to be strict with 000 only and not with other players who have similar gameplay, kicking only him when he bails in a dogfight, teamstacks, suicides intentinally etc - while some admins do the same sometimes.Sure its easier for an admin to punish only players you don't like and close an eye when same does another player.

Do what thou wilt

Flettnerman · 2019-03-12 17:11:43

Paul Baumer wrote:

Flettnerman wrote:
I 100% agree with vale, but here you can see gameplay from his perspective.
You agree at 100% Flett?You had a go on me and Abas for way less than what Vale said in his first phrase.Apparently being an active and honest admin here doesn't even give you some respect - even from those who you consider friends.

What are you talking about man? I just have same opinion about triple zero as vale posted there, if you want to catch him - here you go.
But I bet you will rather kick/ban players on rtr-sw for teamkilling bots instead of just turning them off.

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Horza · 2019-03-12 18:04:34

Calm down guys, read me, I just said it to open a debate on him. For me he's cheater, because of facts.
I know that's because a guy is good it means he cheats, and the same for reputation. Not because a guy is several reported in chat to hacking, it means he hacks. I think all or maybe lot of us had a time where a guy said we were cheating. It happend for me yesterday from a guy who was basesniping always from the same point, here or not, I just had to bomb the location when I was flying over the zone.

By the way, never said he was a bad player, like I said, cheating doesnt mean you're invicible, but in opposite, if you have any skills, I think cheats can help but wouldnt be you as a good player. Player No OnE I have recorded cheating is an example of the noob cheater who is killed many times, even with hack.

Then, yes he had skills, I agree, that means I question myself about my own accusation of him. But... (but ) doing videos about your gameplay doesnt mean you never cheats. What were his scores when he recorded himself ? (Yes I'm really bad to keep accusate him and I know I can slide into dark side of being crazy)
When I suspect someone to hack I'm really sure. First time by the way I see OOO is well known to spawn camping, didnt see that in game so my accusation wasnt for it. Other player are accusated to hack, for me no, but for some old players yes (I wouldnt give name to who accusate who). For the moment those accusations are fake.

By the way, I'm not jealous, I play for fun, If I'm in top 5 best players, good for me and team, but I don't play for challenge, and I dont care to be killed. If I have to die 30 during a game by flying (because in those moments I try to fly more and more during game, I was really bad there is 1 year ago). And best players are always good people. I'm not a really good player, I fucked up myself lot of times, I tk by accident lot of times But that's a game. But in life, I love when things happens right. I'm not here to be admin, or like it said by bs player on aX (I dont have to be admin on Simple, admins are present here )

Well enjoy, take care about yourselves guys

Paul Baumer · 2019-03-12 18:36:33

valento wrote:

I dont know if he cheats or not and i actually dont give a shit. .

Did you read this first phrase Flett?lol

Flettnerman wrote:

I 100% agree with vale

You said you agree with Vale's words on 000.In similar case with another player(greetings to Russian EST) you had a go on me saying I don't care if a player cheats or not - which wasn't really true cause you missunderstood me back then.Now you agree on the same thing you accused me of - correct me if I wrong.

Flettnerman wrote:

But I bet you will rather kick/ban players on rtr-sw for teamkilling bots instead of just turning them off.

Yeah that's the only thing I use my admin rights for - kicking ppl for tking bots.Sounds as true as that you use them only for !nobots command

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Lecter · 2019-03-12 18:37:31

God, not this again....

Flettnerman · 2019-03-12 19:14:54

Paul Baumer wrote:

You said you agree with Vale's words on 000.In similar case with another player(greetings to Russian EST) you had a go on me saying I don't care if a player cheats or not - which wasn't really true cause you missunderstood me back then.Now you agree on the same thing you accused me of - correct me if I wrong.

Ah, that story when I asked you just to check player on kbely (I thought it was estonian cheater), but instead you start to explain me that you are don't care about him if he use hacks or not. On next map I was left, so you think why not to "check" (simply ask him on chat) who's that and you sent me chatlogs about that.

Paul Baumer wrote:

Apparently being an active and honest admin here doesn't even give you some respect - even from those who you consider friends.
Yeah that's the only thing I use my admin rights for - kicking ppl for tking bots.Sounds as true as that you use them only for !nobots command

I can't ban people for stupid reasons or just by reports, I need to see the violation first. I don't care if you are respect me or not, it's your right.

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Paul Baumer · 2019-03-12 21:57:47

Sounds good to me Flett.
But knowing you I didn't expect you'd agree with "I dont know if he cheats or not and i actually dont give a shit." sorry if I insist on it but that's the point.I suppose you didn't notice this first phrase
@ll the admins who say "he probably cheats but I don't care" : check him and If he cheats prove that and ban him, if he results clean don't call him a (potential) cheater.
As SiMPLE as it is

Bad Actor · 2019-03-12 22:35:23

Think we should all use hacks, level the playing field so to speak.
Some don't give a shit or need hard proof.

I do notice a sense of apathy both here and on Ax regarding players who cheat or at least when it's pointed out in game.

valento · 2019-03-13 00:49:09

I just wrote that cuz for me hes an easy frag. His moves are very predictable and easy to read. Thats fact.
I also dont think that he cheats and nowdays its really easy to get that score if you play the same game stily like he does.

Dionysus · 2019-03-13 02:50:35

Lecter wrote:

God, not this again....

Yeah... what can I do!

Sunshine · 2019-03-13 03:13:06

Horza wrote:

Then, yes he had skills, I agree, that means I question myself about my own accusation of him. But... (but ) doing videos about your gameplay doesnt mean you never cheats. What were his scores when he recorded himself ? (Yes I'm really bad to keep accusate him and I know I can slide into dark side of being crazy)

His gameplay and scores were just as good in his recorded videos.

Dakota · 2019-03-13 20:07:01

There is a 5 pages topic on him in admin section dated 2018-05-15 Title = Is BFSoldier a cheater ?

iCQ · 2019-03-13 20:55:48

I could be wrong but isnt this the same guy as we have here:
http://team-simple.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=6993

P.s. he is banned again... oh well.. what else is new.

//End-of-discussion

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Darcano · 2019-03-14 22:34:10

You can change your name at the last minute and get that fpm too.

dary · 2019-03-15 01:25:20

valento wrote:

I just wrote that cuz for me hes an easy frag. His moves are very predictable and easy to read. Thats fact.
I also dont think that he cheats and nowdays its really easy to get that score if you play the same game stily like he does.

Agree, nothing special. Back than he would be an avarage player.

iCQ · 2019-03-15 17:23:06

Darcano wrote:

You can change your name at the last minute and get that fpm too.

True that!!! I see (him) do that often as well.. so sad LOL.

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