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valento · 2020-02-18 19:21:43

- nto'
- SiMPLE classic.

So yea.. after a very long time i decided to install BF1942 again since i got more free time now during the day..
i was playing peacefully on coral sea today ~17-30h. we were gettting raped by some japanese UFO's. it was quite impossible to take off with any plane so i decided to take the AA. on my side, there was 2 guys spamming "Bail out, Bail out" all the time and i didnt react because i was busy trying to take care of the 912389712 planes above our last carrier. Then out of nothing "jorgen" decided to use !kill command on me. Of course i got pissed and asked him why he did that. He and his buddy "s1111" or whatever said that i was holding the fucking traffic (?????). I was defending the carrier, i was active on the AA shooting down enemy planes, did absolutely nothing wrong. I just want to know the reason behind this action cause "holding the traffic" excuse is a joke.

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jorgen · 2020-02-18 19:34:48

i am sorry i had to use the kill command on you. in a situation like this it is important to fill all the aa guns on our carrier. when you are in the aa gun and press 2 you switch to other aa gun in the front of the ship. there is 4 aa guns and only 2 was manned. this is the reason we was raped so badly. again, i'm sorry to ruin your gaming evening by using the kill command. but the team was loosing partly to your actions/in-actions. i hope i see you on the server again soon.

valento · 2020-02-18 19:54:55

wait what? are you serious? i WAS the one shooting down enemy planes. You guys were the one standing minutes on my side and spamming "Bail out" all the time. The AA guns were all in use in that time if i remember. if not, in the time you spammed me and used the !kill command on me you could easily walk to next free AA gun and take it.
Next time think twice before you take any actions and cut that cheap excuse. Dont blame me because we were loosing. you was part of the team with another 20+ players..
seriuosly WTF is that

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Red Scorpion · 2020-02-18 20:05:11

Jesus ,lets make our own rules up

000 · 2020-02-18 20:06:21

pretty sad to see a complete rookie like jorgen, ordering a veteran like vale what to do ingame

as soon as these newcomer complete bf1942 ignorants get admin rights, they become virtually untouchable, and their words and actions become more valued and important than from those who have genuine bf1942 skill and wisdom

what a freakin joke

jorgen · 2020-02-18 20:19:01

i'm not blaming you that we lost the map. we had only one carrier at the time. and the 2 aa guns in the front of the ship was not manned, then we have only 50% defense. it takes you only half a second to switch to aa gun in front of ship. walking to the front of the ship takes a little longer than that. i will make myself more clear in chat next time this happens. i hope you will switch aa gun next time and not expect players to run like idiots to the front aa guns.
to switch to front aa gun you just have to press 2 or some other number.

deeko · 2020-02-18 20:19:46

"Have fun and hope to see you on the Battlegrounds very soon!"

Bad Actor · 2020-02-18 20:24:41

jorgen wrote:

i am sorry i had to use the kill command on you. in a situation like this it is important to fill all the aa guns on our carrier. when you are in the aa gun and press 2 you switch to other aa gun in the front of the ship. there is 4 aa guns and only 2 was manned. this is the reason we was raped so badly. again, i'm sorry to ruin your gaming evening by using the kill command. but the team was loosing partly to your actions/in-actions. i hope i see you on the server again soon.

That doesn't make sense.

(Edit) Makes more sense now I've read your follow up post clarifying things but still poor reasoning on your part to justify using the 'kill' command.

It's a bonus if you can get anyone to man the carrier AA guns on Coral.
I was the only guy manning AA for Axis in this game ( on my ship anyway) and switching around as needed.

Making judgements about why your team are playing so badly and acting on it isn't cricket old boy.
By that logic you should have kicked every one of your team that wasn't engineer class.

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Red Scorpion · 2020-02-18 20:26:33

Sry jorgen but it is not up to you what how someone plays on a public server,what next !kill command on someone who does not use m10 the way you want them to when team is losing.
Ps there are other spawn points on ship

jorgen · 2020-02-18 20:36:23

i might have been a little hasty with the kill command. i made a decision in the heat of the battle when we were being raped pretty bad. this is the first time i have used the command in this way. i will not do it again. and i am sorry.
but again i hope you and everyone reading this will make room on the aa guns on the carrier.

valento · 2020-02-18 20:38:55

so ill try it again .. i was doing my job, busy trying to protect our carrier, you guys, instead of running to the front wich take around 10-15 seconds prefered to come and spam me while i was protecting it. tell me what i did wrong here mate??? I will definitely not switch to another AA gun next time and i will EXPECT some guys run to the front instead of spamming me and disturbing my gameplay like idiots normally does. there isnt any rule saying that i have to make space on a taken AA so you guys can go faster to the front (WTFFFFF!!!) use a damn different spawn next time ..

sorry for this small drama here. but i really dont get it... what you are trying to teach me here since i was playing totaly legit. or are you rly trying to blame me for your mistake?

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Bad Actor · 2020-02-18 20:53:37

I'd drop it valento, he's apologised.

He's over thought the whole AA gun thing.
Coral Sea is a rape fest, so much shit going on that people are focused on just blasting enemy planes out of the air.

That's why I like Coral

Insane · 2020-02-18 21:03:34

jorgen wrote:

i am sorry i had to use the kill command on you. in a situation like this it is important to fill all the aa guns on our carrier. when you are in the aa gun and press 2 you switch to other aa gun in the front of the ship. there is 4 aa guns and only 2 was manned. this is the reason we was raped so badly. again, i'm sorry to ruin your gaming evening by using the kill command. but the team was loosing partly to your actions/in-actions. i hope i see you on the server again soon.

So as I understand your logic Jorgen. All players spawn in the rear side of a ship, therefore most of people occupy the nearest AA guns and the front AA guns are empty. And the reason you killed valento - he did not move to one of the front AA guns.
Since when is there a rule that if you take a rear AA gun you have to switch to the front one?
As I understand valento he was using AA gun properly to shoot the planes. He was not AFK in an AA gun, he was not doing anything illegal.
You just made up a new rule.

Arkos · 2020-02-18 21:46:46

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I tell you, it's much better if just one guy is using 2 AA Guns. (Left and right).

On one side, he see them coming, and then he can follow them precisly, because he know where they came from.

I like either to be allone at AA's then 4 guys on them. (Or 2 on left and right).

...

And btw. ... Jorgen..., Behave!!!

...

I forgot.

If only 1 guy makes 2 AA's, he can switch before he get's killed due bombs.

...

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jorgen · 2020-02-18 21:47:57

i made a mistake. sorry.
but it takes 10-15 sec to run from port to starboard. from left to right.
it takes much longer to run from stern to bow. back to front. have not the numbers but it takes longer.
in my book that is disrupting the gameplay. so the rules are there.
i'm not going to kill with command anyone that do not move to front aa guns.
the other spawn is even a longer walk to the front.
i hope you forgive me. you have a free team kill on me next time we meet.

Arkos wrote:

...
And btw. ... Jorgen..., Behave!!!
...

hey i try. even god made mistakes
and i'm just a noob

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Arkos · 2020-02-18 21:54:56

...

There was just one, when he wiped out the people in Sodom and Gomorra.

He said, it was horrible and he will never do this again.

Now you know why we are spared today. He would have reason enough.

...

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Bad Actor · 2020-02-18 22:14:58

jorgen wrote:

i made a mistake. sorry.
but ...
Arkos wrote:
...
And btw. ... Jorgen..., Behave!!!
...
hey i try. even god made mistakes
and i'm just a noob

Give it up Jorgen, we all make mistakes.

Stop digging

valento · 2020-02-18 23:06:21

jorgen wrote:

i made a mistake. sorry.
but it takes 10-15 sec to run from port to starboard. from left to right.
it takes much longer to run from stern to bow. back to front. have not the numbers but it takes longer.
in my book that is disrupting the gameplay. so the rules are there.

so in your book of rules is written that occupying the carrier AA gun and using it to defend it against enemys is disruputing gameplay cause other players need it to get in front of the ship?

i'm glad we are following SiMPLE's book of rule because your rule sounds abit ... you know

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Arkos · 2020-02-18 23:16:28

...

I forgot.

If only 1 guy makes 2 AA's, he can switch before he get's killed due bombs.

...

jorgen · 2020-02-18 23:22:59

what can i say more? you are not willing to accept my apology and instead team kill me in the back of my head at berlin? that was your free kill on me.

valento · 2020-02-18 23:34:39

dont mix things up here. i said immediatly sorry. you run into the crossfire while i was sniping the guy on the MG. im not that kind of person who would tk someone for revenge. most of the guys here know me very well and they all can proove it.

just dont try to make any cheap excuses next time and stop talking about rules that doesn't exist. that pissed me off the most in this case here ..

peace

jorgen wrote:

on the team killing issue. there was a mg guy that i killed while standing still. less than a second after i kill him i get team killed by you. in the logs you say sorry 2 times this day. 2 team kills. 189 score today. and one of the team kills is on me after i use kill command on you. i am not saying you did it on purpose but it is very suspicious. i am still deeply sorry about using that command on you. and for the record i was not spamming bail out at you
peace

yes cause im like 16 year old that has nothing better to do but to teamkill an admin for revenge after i started this whole topic here... sounds legit.. believe whatever you like

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Insane · 2020-02-18 23:44:33

valento wrote:

... im not that kind of person who would tk someone for revenge
....
peace

No connection with your situation guys, just valento has made me recall one moment from "Expanse".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXvwq-cxGZw

Can't wait for the next season release this spring...

jorgen · 2020-02-19 00:46:07

18.02.2020 17:25:55 : # [Allies] . ] [ s111: move to empty aa or le me do it
18.02.2020 17:26:05 : # [Allies] jorgen: nto change aa gun
18.02.2020 17:26:05 : # [Allies] . ] [ s111: 2 aa empt and you occupy place
18.02.2020 17:26:16 : # [Allies] . ] [ s111: let me jup to empty aa idiot
18.02.2020 17:26:25 : # [Global] jorgen: !kill nto
18.02.2020 17:26:52 : # [Global] nto': why the fuck u did that jorgen?
18.02.2020 17:27:10 : # [Allies] jorgen: we need to fill the aa guns
18.02.2020 17:27:10 : # [Global] nto': crap abuse
18.02.2020 17:27:19 : # [Allies] nto': i was in the aa gun
18.02.2020 17:27:28 : # [Global] nto': why did you the kill command?
18.02.2020 17:27:35 : # [Allies] jorgen: and there was ampty aa guns on the ship
18.02.2020 17:27:55 : # [Global] nto': wtf are you talking?
18.02.2020 17:27:55 : # [Allies] jorgen: do you want us to run over the whole carier?
18.02.2020 17:28:17 : # [Global] nto': i WAS in the AA shooting down planes
18.02.2020 17:28:46 : # [Allies] jorgen: and there was empty aa guns at the other side of ship...
18.02.2020 17:28:46 : # [Global] nto': ill report that crap abusive shit to tuia
18.02.2020 17:28:49 : # [Global] nto': srysously ...
18.02.2020 17:30:28 : # [Allies] . ] [ s111: nto let me jump to fron aa
18.02.2020 17:30:46 : # [Allies] jorgen: nto you see?
18.02.2020 17:30:55 : # [Global] nto': than ask next time ffs
18.02.2020 17:31:02 : # [Global] nto': and dont fkind kill command me
18.02.2020 17:31:02 : # [Allies] jorgen: omg
18.02.2020 17:31:10 : # [Global] . ] [ s111: I was writing it to you many times
18.02.2020 17:31:19 : # [Global] . ] [ s111: you have to know it all
18.02.2020 17:31:19 : # [Allies] jorgen: what do you think bail out means?
18.02.2020 17:31:25 : # [Global] lop|RaketenHorst: finish that
18.02.2020 17:31:32 : # [Allies] BFSoldier: it means get the f out asap
18.02.2020 17:31:40 : # [Allies] . ] [ s111: do not occupyu closet aa
18.02.2020 17:31:46 : # [Allies] . ] [ s111: becasue u make traffic
18.02.2020 17:32:02 : # [Global] nto': ok ill stop here
18.02.2020 17:32:32 : # [Allies] jorgen: sorry

on the team killing issue. there was a mg guy that i killed while standing still. less than a second after i kill him i get team killed by you. in the logs you say sorry 2 times this day. 2 team kills. 189 score today. and one of the team kills is on me after i use kill command on you. i am not saying you did it on purpose but it is very suspicious. i am still deeply sorry about using that command on you. and for the record i was not spamming bail out at you
peace

Dakota · 2020-02-19 01:55:29

jorgen wrote:

what can i say more? you are not willing to accept my apology and instead team kill me in the back of my head at berlin? that was your free kill on me.

You made a mistake and you apolagies for it Jorgen, stop answering them. Give him a brake guys !!! More post will give you more trolls, If you clear the ban/kick then its over Jorgen.

PS: Only one man made no mistake but got crucified !!!

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Zwarrior · 2020-02-19 21:12:04

but they did asked him to move not only by radio, but also by chat i think jorgen is right.

s/w · 2020-02-19 21:28:01

Zwarrior wrote:

but they did asked him to move not only by radio, but also by chat i think jorgen is right.

He can play however he likes to play, it's not anyone's job to tell other players to ''move'' to other flak gun just because they're lazy enough to go on foot.

And he was also busy defending the carrier, so it's not like he was sitting afk or something.

Zwarrior · 2020-02-19 21:38:18

read again, i am not telling anybody how to play, what i am typing is that he was being asked to move, lets see the situation again:

they were being raped by the other team, that means that in that situation it is difficult to take off by plane, therefore the players choosed to use AA gun, and asked this player to move to other AA guns that were empty (they spend 1 minute look at the chat log), and they did asked him by chat and radio, he typed that he heared the radio spaming calling him to bail out. again i think Jorgen is right. (for example 4 AA gunners would be more succesful to defend than just 2 or 1 in my opinion).

Vojislav · 2020-02-19 21:45:44

You guys have to understand that simple server is not giant clan where all players must be focus to play for team. This is individual game , no one have right to interfere how you should play. Any equipment can be used equally by totall noob or by pro player. Admins job is to pay attention on SiMPLE rules , not on gentleman or teamplay or some other ones.

PipeR · 2020-02-19 21:48:01

nah he was on the aa doing what he was meant to do .. they wasted time getting upset about it standing around doing nothing instead of getting to another aa and killing an active player for no good reason...
so infact they could be charged with disrupting game play including Jorgen

lessons have been learnt here probs time to move on

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jorgen · 2020-02-19 23:08:30

i think we all made mistakes in this situation. the bombs was raining down. i wonder how many times you would have to get killed by bombs just to get to a aa gun. but i overstepped my authority. my bad.

so if a guy decides hunt for tanks with apc on axis side on map omaha when axis have no flag. this is totally ok?
if a guy runs carrier on ground in front of defgun on iwo jima/wake/midway that is also ok?

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