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Blindschuetz

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Friendly Fire

Please notice that friendly fire for now is completely disabled, once again it's in test mode.
Once again we would appreciate feedback on this one.

What do you think about Friendly Fire?

1. Good idea, FF should be disabled
2. It should stay the way it was, FF on

Total votes: 38

Poll is closed

Blindschuetz

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Re: Friendly Fire

I beg you to keep your comments objectively, refrain from the usual scuffling, exceptionally.
Even if it's hard to resist for some folks around here.

I voted for FF on, to me it's obvious the gameplay will severly suffer otherwise.
Just shoot anything that moves. This game wasn't meant to be played like that.
An example from Kursk: 2 tanks were fighting each other in close quarter, the Panzer IV was about to be knocked out,
yet it survived thanks to the Stuka... The T-34 driver ranted curses, the Axis player breathed a sigh of relief,
and the pilot made an extra-easy kill.
Now imagine the B17...

About 20 years ago i started online gaming with Medal of Honor: Allied Assault, CoD later.
I only picked the FF on servers from the list.
It simply seems repulsive to me if one team wins the fight about a house,
just because it has one player outside tossing grenades into it, while all others rushing in.

Last edited by Blindschuetz (2023-02-07 02:43:20)

Serebro

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Re: Friendly Fire

Absolutely agree. Voted alike for the same reasons.

Last edited by Serebro (2023-02-07 10:26:59)

MONTAG

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Re: Friendly Fire

Imagine trying to defend  one of the slopes on Omaha, while Priest, Sherman, ship is shelling it and enemy inf is running up unscratched by all that.
Also this would make tankies and anyone behind a big gun steal some kills from 1v1 inf duels. Or players who didn't care about the unwritten rule of not interfering into knife duels had at least the risk of shooting their own teammate and get the well deserved -3 penalty. Expacks would become op because now you could just defend a flag with expacks AND your teammates basically standing on top of them on penetration points. Etc etc

simon

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Re: Friendly Fire

FF about 50% with warning damage will do.
Gotta love the morons shelling the only attack points for allied, I agree they deserve the tk's and should be gone with minus 4. There should also be a longer spawn time after team killing like on RTR server

Arkos

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Re: Friendly Fire

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Just noticed that FF is off, when i played before.

The picture in my mind, that Soldiers are able to capture a flag, while their Mates shell the flag with Grenades, PlaneBombs and TankShells made me RageQuit.

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LegioX.DoubTi/Mourits

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Re: Friendly Fire

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Just noticed that FF is off, when i played before.

The picture in my mind, that Soldiers are able to capture a flag, while their Mates shell the flag with Grenades, PlaneBombs and TankShells made me RageQuit.

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Maybe you can make CPAV make another topic (and accounts) about how to "free you" rofl. I'm sure your tactical mastermind will be missed while 0 ff is tested :-).

Jokes aside and back to the topic: I have been one of those who asked to lower the ff for I think ever since I started playing here. Why? Because then I can avoid dying to the braindead teamnades and also escape a blind friendly flakgun in time. They don't care, but I do. Lower it to 70-50% and give some sort of punishment to tk'ers.

I have played on servers with 0 ff back in the days, where expackers abused it. I have also played on servers with full tk-kickback and with team balance on at the same time = you bomb an enemy tank and get instantly killed because the "tanker" gets teamswitced. Lovely times

Last edited by LegioX.DoubTi/Mourits (2023-02-08 00:19:39)

Arp273

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Re: Friendly Fire

I agree with what all others posted. FF off took away a big part of the game spirit and allow so much nonsense abuses. It makes gameplay completely less interesting imo.
FF at 100% is really ok to me, 50% is fine.

Last edited by Arp273 (2023-02-08 10:38:20)

Ferd Grapperhaus

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Re: Friendly Fire

I like the idea of FF put to 50%, combined with a warning damage as suggested by Simon. FF completely off is just too much for me personaly.

Serebro

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Re: Friendly Fire

Make FF 1000% - When someone makes a tk, xxx visits his home, ties entire family to a chair and  makes them listen as he reads Merlin's chat outtakes outloud for 2 hours straight

Arkos

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Re: Friendly Fire

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Just tell me, when it's turned on again, please.

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Alfred

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Re: Friendly Fire

FF off takes off the immersion of the game, i've playing on BF1 servers w/o FF and its cool, but in this prehistoric game don't make sense, also report and appeal sections gonna be boring.

Crapule

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Re: Friendly Fire

FF off is bad.

Rainman

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Re: Friendly Fire

Friendly fire off and kickback damage ruins immersion, one of the the most important things in any game

Last edited by Rainman (2023-02-09 15:50:50)

Flasche

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Re: Friendly Fire

back to normal bf pls
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Arkos

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Re: Friendly Fire

FF off is bad.

Yes

Friendly fire off and kickback damage ruins immersion, one of the the most important things in any game

Yes

back to normal bf pls
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And yes ...   

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Dr.ZoidbergCLAW

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Re: Friendly Fire

Although FF off does have some utility against "non trained troops"(the noobie) or the blatant "I shoot at teammates and stuff" individuals(the donkeys rear end),my experience is it often gets abused in the form of xpacks /grenades at the feet or players taxi-jumping in a plane on a carrier and 'parkbombing' it,that way seriously disturbing gameflow.

Best other option I have seen to stop FF on purpose is with the friendly fire kickback I guess.

So  yea ;  my vote is also  this. 

Leave FF on.

Liquorice

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Re: Friendly Fire

FF On.

HappyFace

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Re: Friendly Fire

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FF should be “on” to achieve the most possible realistic war conditions.

By the way, I remember that 000 was running into my nades to kill himself and reduce my score. Even so, he was not able to be 1st when he was playing with HappyFace.

Last edited by HappyFace (2023-02-11 23:40:42)

Blindschuetz

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Re: Friendly Fire

Played as Axis on Bocage a couple of minutes ago.
The very first move was trying to capture the Sawmill flag.
Arrived there with a teammate and simultaneously 2 allied players.
But no shoot-out was necessary, the B17 made a quick decision.
Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Daniel-X

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Re: Friendly Fire

How about setting up enemy fire to 0? Could be fun

Paul Baumer

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Re: Friendly Fire

You guys asked for it, you can have it. Friendly fire will be put back on.
@Blindschuetz thanks for opening the topic but I'd appreciate if you didn't quote my posts from discord here. One way or another, we keep the community informed of the changes, even without your kind assistance.
Thanks everyone for feedback anyway

Zwarrior

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Re: Friendly Fire

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Just tell me, when it's turned on again, please.

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its on again.

petr8

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Re: Friendly Fire

FF should be always on 100%

Blindschuetz

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Re: Friendly Fire

@Blindschuetz thanks for opening the topic but I'd appreciate if you didn't quote my posts from discord here. One way or another, we keep the community informed of the changes, even without your kind assistance.

Very well, since you decided to address me in a sarcastic manner, i shall respond the same.
I was not aware that an announcement from one of the SiMPLE leaders that would affect the entire community
had to be kept hidden from many.
You may have your reasons, and i apologize to you.

I know this is not a democracy, nor is it my place to tell you how to do the job.
Mayhap there is a certain number of zombies and bots among the players and members,
but without a community there is no game and vice versa. Surely no one has to remind you of that.
Neither the majority of the community nor I can find it. So where is this secluded cave where you conduct your information policy?

LifeRedefined

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Re: Friendly Fire

I beg you to keep your comments objectively, refrain from the usual scuffling, exceptionally.
Even if it's hard to resist for some folks around here.

I voted for FF on, to me it's obvious the gameplay will severly suffer otherwise.
Just shoot anything that moves. This game wasn't meant to be played like that.

Absolutely agree. Voted alike for the same reasons. If FF stays on, I'll search for other servers.