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In switzerland, when a hole family is wiped out by the father/husband, it's in 100% a christian and in more then 50% a police officer or he is in military as fulltimejob
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Last edited by Arkos (2016-06-14 23:07:17)
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The Christians religion changed and went with the time
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I can't see that way... These wars we have in 20/21 century where millions of peoples died. Who you think ignited these? But at this moment i can deliever a zitat from stalin, which brings it to the point.
1 dead is tragic a million are statistics.
The western world only care about dead people, when it hits themself. They had the possibilities to wipe out hunger, could deliever technology for clean wather. (Every day more then 30'000 people die because of those 2 reasons, and no one cares and who you think had the possibility and money to change it?)
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Many good things were coming from the moslems/arabien.
Cisterns, astronomy, Astrology, mathematik, Numbers, (without non mathematic would exist and non western technology, ... we would still burn witches today), medicine and a loooot more.
Or look the wars between catolists and protestants. This change still not came to Northern ireland or if, only a decade since.
There was a 30 year long war in europe between catolists and protestants. In Paris in the Bartholomäusnacht katilocs kill each protestant, some days later catolics killed each single protestant... for religion.
Nope... Koran is nothing bader then bible and the moslems are not bader then christians. If you pick some elements to proove your theorie, it's easy to find the same single element on christian side.
30 jähriger Krieg, Hugenottenkriege, Bartholomäusnacht, Kristallnacht, even the swiss people smashed for centuries each others head because of religion.
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Last edited by Arkos (2016-06-14 23:26:24)
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In 1992 the vatican confirmed that the earth is turning around the sun and not vice versa.
The moslems or let's say arabiien knew it hundreds of year before christus.
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Who knew about Jesus before he was born and who visited him after he came to world... Arabs...
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Jesus was allways respected from Mohamed and also from Koran as a great prophet. But he said also that Jesus had powers which he never had. Healing sic people only by touching them, even kill animals by touching them to bring them back 1 minute later. Walking over wather etc.. They didn't believe, that he was the son of god... but aren't we all children of god? God loves everybody, also the moslems.
Let's not forget, that the bible was written first in greek language and in the old-greek there is no word for virgin. Only young woman. Later when it was translated to latein while the 1st canonism they made of this young woman a virgin.
Let's not forget joseph which was together with maria. Later Jesus had many sisters and brothers. In this time it was not possible to have a child without beeing married.
Who knows how it really was.
Yes, Jesus was a genius, yes i believe he could make what they say. Was he the son of god? I don't know, but i believe also, that there is a live after death and one way is through jesus or through god. No energy disappears in this universe. My opinion is, that the soul is from the point of birth transported to body and like captured. It's a Quantum-thing.
You can explain it the same way, that the sun and stars are shining, but universe is dark. But wehn the jon (german Jonen) collidates with ouer atmosphaere, the molecules are visible start to shine.
Einstein said... Quantumtheorie is wrong, because the moon is still there even when i'm not looking at it. But he was not fully right, as we know today.
And the same i think about soul. If you die it leaves the body, and because the soul is not anymore "collidating" with/in ouer body, it semse the live/soul is dead. But i'm sure it isn't "dead".
Heisenbergsche unschärferelation explains it very good. And so, i believe it is also with the soul.
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Last edited by Arkos (2016-06-15 00:04:15)
every places ,every religions ,every country have good people and bad people ,one of them do a wrong thing and he/she destroys the reputations of a nation ,it depend on us ,who should we give attention and whom we shouldn't
just look at that kid AzurdosBAL reputation and then look at LL22 reputation ,two different people from one nation ,one is Unfunny imbecile,the other one is cheaters' nightmare
You're mixing scientific facts with religious imagination Arkos, just saying. And, of course, all religions are obsolete and all of them glorify discrimination against women and minorities. They contain ideas which are basically from the early stages of humanity. It is sad that even after the enlightenment religion is used as law in some parts of the world. Religion as law does not fit modern society.
Last edited by Zody (2016-06-15 11:42:58)
Arkos, please stay at topic please. What do all your stories have to do with this topic? Are you stoned?
I know the things you wrote. I know what the Arabs invented and that they had a big library with ancient greek books in Cordoba. Do you know what the Egyptians invented before the Islam came there? Do you see what the Islam made to this great ancient culture?
You don't make a religion better if you say what Christians did back then. Like i said, Christendom changed compared to Islam. Sure we he wars here in Europe, but the wars are a part of what we are now. We learned in Europe how to handle conflict because we had many different groups and Religions here. The Islam didn't and doesn't allows conflicts cause the words of Allah are the one and only truth. The Islam had the chance to learn the Greek philosophy but they didn't want it, cause the Koran stands above everything. And this is a fact. This step would be important for the Islam and this religion would be totally different today and much wiser. Above that we separated religion from the government, the Islam not.
I am a spiritual and i believe that we are all the same energy, but i don't believe in fairytales of religions. I don't have a problem with religions, they are just fairytales. I have only a problem with it if people take it too serious like the Islam. They should understand that the Koran is just a historical book invented by a human and not the word of their imaginary friend, Allah. The only religion which makes sense to me is Buddhism, but this is more a humanities (Geisteswissenschaft).
I never said the western world are the good and the other are bad. The US and the western world don't make the war because of their religion. Even though G.W. Bush said the invasion in Iraq is a crusade. I bet he has no idea what he was talking about. The problem is the capitalism and that is the reason why "we" make war and cause chaos in those Arabic countries. It is all about oil and other resources.
Last edited by dary (2016-06-15 12:11:49)
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I only can't stand it anymore if people say Islam is bads, moslems are bad.
I had to stand up and fight for them.
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Understand Arkos. Not all are bad of them of course. I don't understand the plan but it is obvious that the crisis is made up to destabilize Europe. These people just don't fit here. Many of them brought their 10 years old bribe and want to have the right to stay with this kid. Seriously? This is child molesting.
Just saw this video and this Muslim say that the Islam is the truth and they will win. You can't talk to them cause they believe that they are 100% sure, that the Islam is the truth and everybody has to be like them. You can not tolerate such idiots.
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But the other one says, Islam/Koran is a lie... This is the same.
It seemse, both of them don't know, that Koran and Bible depend on the same people and the same story.
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Last edited by Arkos (2016-06-15 14:38:44)
Yes, the Bible has also some lines which say that women have no rights etc... but at least people here don't take every word from the Bible seriously.
This topic is too negative btw. and i prefer not to strain my subconscious mind with so much negativity. That is why i don't watch much news anymore. If you want we can talk in TS about this, it is easier than writing here.
Peace out
If you aren't watching news anymore dary, you shouldn't watch that zerberster channel either. Its full of far right crap.
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But the other one says, Islam/Koran is a lie... This is the same.
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The people who distribute the Koran are Salafists, in case you don't know them. They are extreme idiots. Everybody can believe what he wants, but keep it for yourself and don't spread it like the people spread the Koran on the street. Try to spread the Bibles in an islamic state and see what happens. Well, of course we don't compare ourselves with them, but it is naive to think that it will be a happy end.
@Zody... agree with you, those videos are negative as well and probably right winged. He said that he is not political in some video but his favorite politician is Dr. Waagenknecht.
jews, Islam, Christians, its all the same god.
you should care of amerikan and Russland cultures occupation after ww2
And you should shut the fuck up with your obsolete world views And by the way, both picture of "today" look fake to me. For fucksake at least check your sources before posting such bullshit.
The first picture shows a capital corner restaurant which is from the US. The second one looks photoshopped. God I can't stand so much idiocy.
Last edited by Zody (2016-06-18 23:40:33)
Are those videos examples for bad fakes bud?
Lots of fake going around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFfo-_xKAUk