Ukraine demonstrations

joint · 2014-08-02 02:03:20

a biased video with propaganda, graphic and english subs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE18iPQ1Euk

s[sk] · 2014-08-02 02:16:02

that woman around 1:20:00 with russian subtitles, is she speaking ukrainian? or is that some dialect?

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joint · 2014-08-02 02:20:53

almost pure ukranian with west accent with some russ words ofc- usualy deal

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s[sk] · 2014-08-02 02:26:10

joint wrote:

almost pure ukranian with west accent with some russ words ofc- usualy deal

thanks, those words that didn't match with subs often resembled those you can hear in dialects here that's why i asked what's that

s[sk] · 2014-08-03 04:58:29

any idea what's that flag in the background?

nämeless · 2014-08-03 06:36:13

Looks like a flag of some Christian union, maybe a flag of some Cossack forces, maybe something else... The colour composition of this flag is the same like in the flag of Ossetia. Ossetians are Christians but their flag has stripes and no image of Jesus Christ. These people want independence and who knows, maybe they also designing flags of the provinces controlled by them.

Last days I saw a lot of videos made by ordinary people and I realise now the value of the information warfare and how does it affect there in Ukraine. These videos were about soldiers of the Ukrainian army and what they said being in captivity of separatists and receiving medical treatment in hospitals in Russia as deserters or as the other captives who need medical aids. They went to fight for Ukraine because their commanders said them that Ukrainian East has been captured by Islamic Chechen terrorists from Russian Federation and people from the East are waiting for them because they need them as liberators. I just tried to put myself in the ordinary Ukrainian citizen's position also trying to understand what kind of information they were getting from the national television and the other sources, since those days when all the "improper" and "wrong" media were prohibited by the Ukrainian government. I understood that I would be thinking this way too.

Hemnes · 2014-08-04 19:37:00

joint wrote:

almost pure ukranian with west accent with some russ words ofc- usualy deal

The football fans from ur city are dangerous

Hemnes · 2014-08-04 19:37:49

s[sk] wrote:

any idea what's that flag in the background?
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/7 … ruztwo.gif

Some pro-russian volunteer organisation

nämeless · 2014-08-06 00:16:18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV_z3Pz21PI

HoOK · 2014-08-06 00:33:27

any news about the Malaysian plane?

tuia · 2014-08-06 00:55:36

Busted! MH-17 Was in Fact the ‘Lost’ Flight MH-370

nämeless · 2014-08-06 00:57:13

tuia wrote:

Busted! MH-17 Was in Fact the ‘Lost’ Flight MH-370

Ah, conspiracies...

HoOK wrote:

any news about the Malaysian plane?

Still no records from Ukrainian Dnepropetrovsk airport and no records from England since the days when they got the black boxes. It seems they got the black boxes to put them in the British museum. The United States Department of State still think that pro-Russians shot this plane down because it's written in Facebook. Russian officials think that Ukrainian army could be involved in this tragedy because they saw Ukrainian Buks at the satellite photos before the plane crash and these Buks "disappeared" afterwards. Nothing new...

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s[sk] · 2014-08-06 01:36:04

i've seen a news headline few days ago that black boxes showed nothing suspicious (which was kinda expected)

nämeless · 2014-08-06 02:07:15

It's very strange they don't publish the results of investigation. I still remember the Polish president plane crash and the results of investigation with records and reconstruction. In this case, they publish nothing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucfMbPt8xRw

Coco · 2014-08-06 05:52:27

nämeless wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV_z3Pz21PI

« Only workers, families defending their homes » Is that credible ?

Hemnes · 2014-08-06 06:29:57

Coco wrote:

nämeless wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV_z3Pz21PI
« Only workers, families defending their homes » Is that credible ?

Of course, because they don't want to live in Ukraine and they don't like new ukrainian government

s[sk] · 2014-08-06 06:41:43

nämeless wrote:

It's very strange they don't publish the results of investigation. I still remember the Polish president plane crash and the results of investigation with records and reconstruction. In this case, they publish nothing.
ucfMbPt8xRw

accident on 10 Apr 2010
Uploaded on Jan 12, 2011

maybe give them some time?

nämeless · 2014-08-06 08:14:00

s[sk] wrote:

nämeless wrote:
It's very strange they don't publish the results of investigation. I still remember the Polish president plane crash and the results of investigation with records and reconstruction. In this case, they publish nothing.
ucfMbPt8xRw
accident on 10 Apr 2010
Uploaded on Jan 12, 2011
maybe give them some time?

I don't think so, this conflict has too many external interested parties and they deliberately don't publish the results of this plane crash now like everything else: it's not the only mass-murder in Ukraine, thousands already died in this stupid civil war. Nobody investigate murders in Kiev, in Odessa, in the East. This plane crash incident will be never solved too. Maybe we will get some chance to know something afterwards, but not right now because it's showtime for TV and social media. People are stupid, the majority doesn't need to know the truth, they only need a picture made by media for them personally, because the majority can't think independently. I know pretty easy solution of this conflict that might help to finish this civil war but it's impossible due to majority's stupidity.

Sunshine · 2014-08-07 19:23:37

Kinda related...

So I guess Russia is banning imports of some food, is that correct. During these kind of things or when a country wants more or wants less for that matter, farmers who do importing or exporting of anything related to food products and stuff with equipment exports or imports. this notices it hasn't been official banned but all should prepare.

The farm I live on is primarily dairy, wheat, and cold hardy berries and feed for local. But our other farm land do have a lot of other things we normally export to a group that sends it to different countries. So does this mean we have to send some stuff not to Russia? We send a lot of wheat, soybeans, cherries, and dairy over there I think.

I'm nnot mad at you folks. I'll sneak some over for yous guyssss -.-

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Hemnes · 2014-08-07 19:54:14

Sunshine wrote:

Kinda related...
So I guess Russia is banning imports of some food, is that correct. During these kind of things or when a country wants more or wants less for that matter, farmers who do importing or exporting of anything related to food products and stuff with equipment exports or imports. this notices it hasn't been official banned but all should prepare.
The farm I live on is primarily dairy, wheat, and cold hardy berries and feed for local. But our other farm land do have a lot of other things we normally export to a group that sends it to different countries. So does this mean we have to send some stuff not to Russia? We send a lot of wheat, soybeans, cherries, and dairy over there I think.
I'm nnot mad at you folks. I'll sneak some over for yous guyssss -.-

Yea, Sandy, we won't have your wheat and cherries.

Vojislav · 2014-08-07 20:03:32

If serbia dont take sanctions against Russia, we will have big market to occupy there since we are only who can sell meat from europe and have ''duty-free'' agreement with russia

nämeless · 2014-08-08 01:32:08

I find all these sanctions stupid. When U. S. and all the dependent countries bitching with sanctions on Russia, people here don't feel how does it affect on them but they think we should bitch with sanctions back.

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Meanwhile in Kiev, Majdan. The "revolutionists" still live there since they started this revolution in December, 2013. The mayor of Kiev V. Klitchko said the officials should get rid of them because someone found a few interesting things in Kiev - bazooka, Russian passports and Russian money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hfmstAQrUI

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Coco · 2014-08-08 02:14:58

Sunshine wrote:

cold hardy berries

What's that ?

s[sk] · 2014-08-08 02:19:37

nämeless wrote:

I find all these sanctions stupid. When U. S. and all the dependent countries bitching with sanctions on Russia, people here don't feel how does it affect on them but they think we should bitch with sanctions back.

well, i like the economic wars more than the real ones, if there has to be one

nämeless · 2014-08-08 02:21:34

s[sk] wrote:

nämeless wrote:
I find all these sanctions stupid. When U. S. and all the dependent countries bitching with sanctions on Russia, people here don't feel how does it affect on them but they think we should bitch with sanctions back.
well, i like the economic wars more than the real ones, if there has to be one

I don't like wars at all.

s[sk] · 2014-08-08 02:27:08

nämeless wrote:

I don't like wars at all.

you were born on the wrong planet then

Hemnes · 2014-08-08 06:04:52

s[sk] wrote:

nämeless wrote:
I don't like wars at all.
you were born on the wrong planet then

socialist

Syndrum² · 2014-08-08 06:27:30

lol

Hemnes · 2014-08-08 06:33:24

Syndrum² wrote:

lol

hey kid, its not funny

George S. Patton · 2014-08-08 09:35:56

I believe Putin has called this on himselve.
He is more dependent on the western world than they are on him.

In my opinion the allied forces should have listen to Patton in '45.
I think a lot of this shit wouldn't have happend.

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