Ukraine demonstrations

nämeless · 2014-07-21 22:17:33

s[sk] wrote:

nämeless wrote:
It's not the only plane that separatists shot down in the Eastern Ukraine.
finally something i can agree with ;-)

You know what I mean, but I am too tired today. One day, if you will be unemployed, you can find a job for sure in the security service of Ukraine, using notepad and crack for Adobe Audition, lol! Good night.

Kobra · 2014-07-21 22:45:14

s[sk] wrote:

nämeless wrote:
It's not the only plane that separatists shot down in the Eastern Ukraine.
finally something i can agree with ;-)

now that's the point! they have shot this An-26 some days ago! With what weapon? Not just a usual machine gun...

s[sk] · 2014-07-21 23:02:19

nämeless wrote:

You know what I mean, but I am too tired today. One day, if you will be unemployed, you can find a job for sure in the security service of Ukraine, using notepad and crack for Adobe Audition, lol! Good night.

i got audition installed but i'm afraid there would be a language barrier
there went my potential successful career

Timmos · 2014-07-22 01:37:29

i dont know who did it, but i think putin is one big fucking KGB nazi

joint · 2014-07-22 01:50:33

so nothing new from you?

nämeless · 2014-07-22 05:57:33

Kobra wrote:

s[sk] wrote:
nämeless wrote:
It's not the only plane that separatists shot down in the Eastern Ukraine.
finally something i can agree with ;-)
now that's the point! they have shot this An-26 some days ago! With what weapon? Not just a usual machine gun...

This information about An-26 sounds doubtful but possible. I mean the other planes like Il-76 and Su-25. Officially, from this weapon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K38_Igla

Meanwhile, Malaysians got the black boxes in Donetsk and they have to work with independent experts from ICAO now.

http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1822366&tid=107114

s[sk] · 2014-07-22 15:05:23

nameless (or joint), i need some clarification
i've googled that borodai guy ("Prime Minister of Donetsk People's Republic") since he's the new media star, wiki says he's a russian citizen living in moscow
so i googled that girkin/strelkin ("commands the Donbass People's Militia paramilitary group"), russian citizen from moscow
bezler? russian citizen

are these disinformations or is ukrainian army really fighting paramilitary units led by foreign citizens (russians)?

one more, what is understood by "white russian nationalist" over there where you live?

thanks

nämeless · 2014-07-22 15:39:50

s[sk] wrote:

nameless (or joint), i need some clarification
i've googled that borodai guy ("Prime Minister of Donetsk People's Republic") since he's the new media star, wiki says he's a russian citizen living in moscow
so i googled that girkin/strelkin ("commands the Donbass People's Militia paramilitary group"), russian citizen from moscow
bezler? russian citizen

Yes, both.

joint · 2014-07-22 19:17:42

goverment of Donbass and Lugansk look not politic but military, i sure there will be another elections right after Ukrainian forces stop this fuckin madness

s[sk] wrote:

one more, what is understood by "white russian nationalist" over there where you live?
thanks

those who hate Caucasians and dont want assimilation with them, also some nationalists divide cocucasians, like popular opinion is Chechens and Dagestani are bad savage who sell drugs and rape women and Armenians and Georgians are good civilized folks, etc

Timmos · 2014-07-22 19:59:14

hope u fucking eastern europe fucks are happy

nämeless · 2014-07-22 21:31:13

Timmos wrote:

hope u fucking eastern europe fucks are happy

Geographically, I am in Europe, so shut up, please. You are talking with hatred like you were born during the Cold war over the Berlin wall and accidentally fell down to the Western side. Nobody is happy here because people are waiting for the final results of this investigation.

Vojislav · 2014-07-22 21:55:18

Timmos wrote:

hope u fucking eastern europe fucks are happy

One day u will see how it looks like burning ur own country...

Nosferatu · 2014-07-22 23:09:45

Vojislav wrote:

Timmos wrote:
hope u fucking eastern europe fucks are happy
One day u will see how it looks like burning ur own country...

Hold your horses, don't start flaming my country (burn...country.... nvm)

Here is how the majority of Russians think of what happened cuz of that great Communistic government/ press they have there..... LMFAO

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/6610010 … _mh17.html

Almost feel sorry for them. Looks like they don't have access to real news.

Vojislav · 2014-07-22 23:34:44

Even when u pull ''burn '' from context its not flaming ur country. Not that i disagree what they are saying but '' major opinion'' after one video its funny

s[sk] · 2014-07-23 00:24:53

Vojislav wrote:

Even when u pull ''burn '' from context its not flaming ur country. Not that i disagree what they are saying but '' major opinion'' after one video its funny

can you rephrase what you originally said? i'm still trying to figure out what you wanted to say

tuia · 2014-07-23 01:02:36

I am waiting for what excuse will be made when real information from black boxes records comes out, or maybe it will sink into oblivion like the other Malaysian Airlines plane. They are forcing a way to start a war with Russia, no doubt about it.

s[sk] · 2014-07-23 01:38:34

like what information? that all systems were working fine until they got hit and there was no airplane anymore?

and i have lots of doubts about your second sentence

Sunshine · 2014-07-23 01:43:22

Serious question..

Is this a new cold war coming? My great grandmother has been saying so for quite awhile. But she hates Russia so I don't know if it's just her and her 101yo self going on about it or if it's true?

s[sk] · 2014-07-23 02:31:18

i don't even know what should happen to be able to tell that "cold war" just started
can you?

Timmos · 2014-07-23 02:35:15

i hope they will slaughter russia, stupid pricks. To stupid to drive a normal car and the only thing they do is provoking and drinking vodka.

BTW: just in the news, an italian reporter spoke to a russian separatist and they admitted they shot down the enemy plane.

Stop pointing the fingers arround, i can't say it with 100% but Russia is trying to fuck over the world since Putin is being president.

My thoughts and point of view

Sunshine · 2014-07-23 02:37:12

No I guess I wouldn't know when one would start I guess. I don't hear anything about a nuclear bomb build up or some other thing. But maybe it's just west vs east dealing with everything :-/ Maybe that's just how it's always been and it's just during things like this that make people wonder.

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HoOK · 2014-07-23 04:37:22

Malaysia is a peace country and
Someone want it to involves war....

joint · 2014-07-23 08:17:08

not sure if it worth to look, but..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFlGLqiDogA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY4W-8qNnD0

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nämeless · 2014-07-23 08:58:38

Timmos wrote:

i hope they will slaughter russia, stupid pricks. To stupid to drive a normal car and the only thing they do is provoking and drinking vodka.

These words describes you as an enlightened, intelligent and polite European.

Timmos wrote:

BTW: just in the news, an italian reporter spoke to a russian separatist and they admitted they shot down the enemy plane.

Share the link here, I want to watch it.

nämeless · 2014-07-23 09:59:22

tuia wrote:

I am waiting for what excuse will be made when real information from black boxes records comes out, or maybe it will sink into oblivion like the other Malaysian Airlines plane. They are forcing a way to start a war with Russia, no doubt about it.

There will be no excuses I guess. I see now a lot of Western newspapers and websites with sketches of ugly Putin's face squeezing that plane with his teeth and hands. People here got used to this kind of reaction and it perceives as the U.S. behaviour by default. Nobody's waiting for excuses. Here you can watch the official position of the United States on this issue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQRvINebeok

I also saw the report of the Russian ministry of defence and it's very difficult for understanding because it has a lot of facts to analyse. I spent about two hours. Of course, it's the way easier to blame one side without evidence and saying about some pictures in Facebook than to watch reports, satellite photos and maps. By the way, the pictures that the U.S. department of state is representing as the evidence is just another fake made by Ukrainian security service: they use a screenshot from the video, made a few months earlier, as a photo. The "Buk" on this video belongs to Ukrainian army.

http://russian.rt.com/article/42071

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIh8LLRu7Yw

Watching everything is going on around there, I am trying to find some logic: if I commit a crime like that one, I would hide the evidence that could expose my guilt. The separatists had a good chance to destroy, "lose" or "never find" these black boxes, but they gave them to another country and made it officially. They are even agree with England as a country which should work with the black boxes now, despite the fact that people think that England is the 51th state of the U.S. and, in my opinion, it would be better to give these black boxes to the neutral country like Switzerland or Finland.

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Arkos · 2014-07-23 10:38:59

...

At the end all these "evidences" are only another blabla...

...

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Sunshine · 2014-07-23 12:14:15

nämeless wrote:

Watching everything is going on around there, I am trying to find some logic: if I commit a crime like that one, I would hide the evidence that could expose my guilt. The separatists had a good chance to destroy, "lose" or "never find" these black boxes, but they gave them to another country and made it officially. They are even agree with England as a country which should work with the black boxes now, despite the fact that people think that England is the 51th state of the U.S. and, in my opinion, it would be better to give these black boxes to the neutral country like Switzerland or Finland.

People think England is 51st state? Maybe people in Europe and Russia think that but no one here wants anything to do with England lol.

Many people here have little faith in the state department people ever since queen Hillary was there (she's actually a man). Other groups like the pentagon and others haven't released much information to the public. They usually never do anyway.

The biggest complaint is that they didn't let inspectors in and then gave warning shots and they were complaining that some evidence was moved and even cut up into pieces or some shit.

News this morning says US intel people says they believe it was pro-Russian separatists who shot it down accidentally because sattelite photos show that missile was launched in separatist area during that time. They did say that the shooting is not directly linked to Russia and Ukraine is going overboard in their blame. The only link to Russia is that they are backed by Russia but they are saying Russia didn't give an order to shoot it or anything like that. They did say they cant determine whether or not Russian military people were they with separatists at the time though. They also say separatists are being trained in using the weapons at place called Rostoff or something.

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Timmos · 2014-07-23 12:30:42

sorry but do u think its normal how putin is behaving nameless?

nämeless · 2014-07-23 12:44:22

Sunshine wrote:

it was pro-Russian separatists who shot it down accidentally because sattelite photos show that missile was launched in separatist area during that time

If these photos exists, why don't they publish them?

Timmos wrote:

sorry but do u think its normal how putin is behaving nameless?

What is not normal with him particularly?

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Sunshine · 2014-07-23 12:56:34

nämeless wrote:

Sunshine wrote:
it was pro-Russian separatists who shot it down accidentally because sattelite photos show that missile was launched in separatist area during that time
If these photos exists, why don't they publish them?

I don't know maybe they will today. This was just on the 6am news less than an hour ago.

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