Ukraine demonstrations

Sunshine · 2014-02-19 12:10:50

They showed footage on tv here as well. A lot of fire anda lot of things on fire being thrown around. Looks like Detroit on a Saturday night.

Go kick someone's ass Joint.

RamYam · 2014-02-19 12:17:32

So, what is the real reason for this violent and deadly protests? Its very strange that all of this is happening only to make janukovich resign...

nämeless wrote:

Day by day it's getting closer to the civil war: assassinations, burnings, street fights...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkp9xgBdXlQ

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joint · 2014-02-19 12:23:04

nothing new at my place, my place is calm, we watching TV here, weird, according this report everything is very serious, looks like Ukrane going by the Libia script, me personally still think that huj was there and they wont be able to swing the situation so much, even investing several billion more

Sunshine wrote:

Looks like Detroit on a Saturday night.

lol:)

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nämeless · 2014-02-19 12:43:59

Sunshine wrote:

Go kick someone's ass Joint.

Regarding the matter that Joint lives in the country where people burn and kill each other for reasons of policy nowadays, this advice sounds a little bit stupid excessive.

nämeless · 2014-02-19 13:12:32

RamYam wrote:

So, what is the real reason for this violent and deadly protests? Its very strange that all of this is happening only to make janukovich resign...

nämeless wrote:
Day by day it's getting closer to the civil war: assassinations, burnings, street fights...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkp9xgBdXlQ

There are some reasons I guess: Yanukovich resignation, EU integration, Nazism and democracy, mercenaries etc. As far as I understand, they have no common thread but they have to continue riots. You better ask Joint because I have never been to Ukraine and Ukraine is another country.

Sunshine · 2014-02-19 13:24:51

nämeless wrote:

There are some reasons I guess: Yanukovich resignation, EU integration, Nazism and democracy, mercenaries etc. As far as I understand, they have no common thread but they have to continue riots. You better ask Joint because I have never been to Ukraine and Ukraine is another country.

So the people who are doing the riots are people like Nazis or Mercenaries who want that Yanukovich person to resign? Hopefully the Nazis are the minority! Do the rioters want to be in the EU or does the govt want to and the rioters are against it?

nämeless · 2014-02-19 13:29:44

Sunshine wrote:

nämeless wrote:
There are some reasons I guess: Yanukovich resignation, EU integration, Nazism and democracy, mercenaries etc. As far as I understand, they have no common thread but they have to continue riots. You better ask Joint because I have never been to Ukraine and Ukraine is another country.
So the people who are doing the riots are people like Nazis or Mercenaries who want that Yanukovich person to resign? Hopefully the Nazis are the minority! Do the rioters want to be in the EU or does the govt want to and the rioters are against it?

Lots of stuff, everything is so complicated... Ask Joint.

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joint · 2014-02-19 14:32:41

i know nothing, maybe everyone has their own goals, and maybe only few know what is goin on exactly, its like a controlled chaos in action

say · 2014-02-19 16:12:41

lal ya new constitution & influence from west will bring ukraina so called change
... but for what cost ?
..after 20 years ppl will ask themselves why we were in the riot
look at svk. After socialism we got democracy ... in minute Our democrat-mafia goverment strip a state of its assets in less than few years
now we have naked ass & we pay generously western profiters who have bussines here for social benefits :DD
I ask myself when will the ppl wake up & build new gallows

Denny · 2014-02-19 17:18:23

Sunshine wrote:

nämeless wrote:
There are some reasons I guess: Yanukovich resignation, EU integration, Nazism and democracy, mercenaries etc. As far as I understand, they have no common thread but they have to continue riots. You better ask Joint because I have never been to Ukraine and Ukraine is another country.
So the people who are doing the riots are people like Nazis or Mercenaries who want that Yanukovich person to resign? Hopefully the Nazis are the minority! Do the rioters want to be in the EU or does the govt want to and the rioters are against it?

Ive watched some documentary, and as far as i understood, Ukraine is split in 2 parts, eastern and western, some people support yanukovich(the eastern part i think) and western part is more for eu or for that lady in jail(opposition). Correct me if im wrong joint? As you live in Dnepropetrovsk i assume why you dont go out on demonstrations It also has no sense to go there and loose head anyways.

But i dont understand why didnt Yanukovich resign already, he wants to end up a youtube hit like Gadaffi?

And i asked my mom, nothing was on tv here yesterday, maybe it will be today on.

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joint · 2014-02-19 21:04:02

yes, someth like that and there is the Crimea as well

say · 2014-02-19 21:20:30

joint when ppl will start robbing the city ,than get some big plazma TV & of cos a lot of vodka too
PS send some bottle than

joint · 2014-02-19 21:25:29

sure thing, im already eyeing at nearby appliance store, i would take a couple 50'' plasmas from there in the name of the freedom

Denny · 2014-02-19 23:48:36

hahah just like in L.A. when people were stealing tvs and stuff xD

nämeless · 2014-02-20 09:11:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DipJOV01Pr4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hYvM_aIc4Y

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Denny · 2014-02-20 13:31:19

this looks sad, people dying because of those dirty politicians and scums..

name-in the first video, who was shooting from the building at the people?

RamYam · 2014-02-20 14:12:18

good question, because small part of protesters are using deadly force (also using fire arms), this reminds me of something similar (but not the same) already seen in Syria (foreign "freedom" fighters liberating Syria).

Still, I do not understand reason for such violent protests, something bigger is behind this, west/Rus interests collides in Ukraine...

Denny wrote:

this looks sad, people dying because of those dirty politicians and scums..
name-in the first video, who was shooting from the building at the people?

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nämeless · 2014-02-20 14:22:24

Denny wrote:

this looks sad, people dying because of those dirty politicians and scums..
name-in the first video, who was shooting from the building at the people?

Security service or provokers.

joint · 2014-02-20 16:56:19

evrything goes bad, i need to get a rifle, over.

dary · 2014-02-20 17:40:50

This is war... shit

nämeless · 2014-02-20 18:25:50

I am watching news right now, there are 64 dead bodies more in Kiev, 551 injured, 332 hospitalised, 67 hostages taken by radicals. It's only in Kiev and who knows how many in the whole Ukraine.

http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1305173&tid=105474

Joint, this might be interesting for you.

http://player.rutv.ru/iframe/live/id/21 … omBtn=true

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nämeless · 2014-02-20 19:25:06

Today our stupid prime minister publicly asked Yanukovich to stop being a molly. Whatever is going to happen in Ukraine will happen, whether we worry or not, because the critical moment has been left behind and it's too late to do something. Anyway, I think that Russia should not interfere in this conflict because of information warfare. I don't want to watch so much lies in the Western media news about "bad Russians" like it was in Georgia in 2008 during the Olympics.

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nämeless · 2014-02-20 20:05:15

There are at least two scripts I guess, both are bad because Yanukovich is a political coward. He can put the riots down, this will lead to hundreds of casualties but it might help to prevent thousands in the future. In this case, there will be a lot of sanctions applied by the European Union. If Yanukovich will continue to be inactive, the whole country will be captured and all the rioters will be represented as "freedom fighters".

Millerke · 2014-02-20 21:52:43

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahjaTulXPGQ

O.O This is going to be so epic!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ausJsIHLjkM

O.O "... shooting with live rounds ..."

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nämeless · 2014-02-20 23:58:19

Also, the information war is going on and this episode with snipers is not so obvious. There are some versions of what is going on there.

1. These snipers are the right-wing radicals, they kill the rioters to provoke the officials. Something is wrong with their tactics and uniform: they keep up a desultory fire and wear the uniform of the captured troops of the ministry of internal affairs, their shoes and arm-bands are not in accordance with the official uniform. The firearms might be taken from the captured storages in the Western Ukraine.

2. The snipers are the mercenaries sponsored by the Ukrainian government for a dirty job.

3. Some Ukrainian people think these snipers are Russians that came there to kill Ukrainians.

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Coco · 2014-02-21 08:38:20

According to the local authorities, 67 demonstrators and few dozen police officers lost their lives yesterday. The head of the Maïdan's medical service report more than one hundred people died and over 500 injured.

I'm going to share few pictures of Thursday published in the main french newspaper :

I shouldn't joke...

!btk1week noob

one of the guys responsible for the food supplies

The morgue and the hospital installed in the « Hotel Ukrayina »

joint · 2014-02-21 11:36:54

these fuckin snipers who kill civilians to make the herd angry were at every hot spot in the world last times

RamYam · 2014-02-21 12:06:39

Its common process that west uses to eliminate head of state that does not comply to their request, scenario almost the same everywhere (Syria) - if they can not buy government, make chaos and destabilize country (Ukraine now) and if that doesn't work (Syria) they can always use military option and send occupying forces (Lybia partly only air support, but Iraq before that).

Even now EU/US says it will bring sanctions to Ukraine if they do not stop violence, heavily ignoring that part of "protesters" are armed and killing both police and civilians to provoke more violent protests.

Like nameles said -only two possible ways - end this violent protests by all means necessary, or comply with EU/US (step down and put pro-west government at head of state). The longer janukovich waits, more ppl will die.

Denny · 2014-02-21 12:49:36

Maybe Ukraine is lying on huge amounts of oil? Then USA would be all over the place already...

Sunshine · 2014-02-21 13:08:07

Denny wrote:

Maybe Ukraine is lying on huge amounts of oil? Then USA would be all over the place already...

Yup. With secret jew support.

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