Xpacking flag at CTF allowed?

DC · 2013-11-09 02:30:00

Hey guys,

today some of us asked ourselves if xpacking the flag in ctf-mode is allowed. Some admins said yes and some admins said no and kicked for it. It would be nice if there would be a clear statement about that issue.

dary · 2013-11-09 02:33:04

There is no rule that says it is not allowed.

DC · 2013-11-09 02:41:27

Indeed but it is just a logical thinking.

Well I do not see a problem with it at all, just the handling of the admins should be the same. Just an example: It was Guadal ctf: Kobra(pas one), Yoda etc. were on the server and did not kick(even if they were complaining about it), the bora joined an instantly kicked 2 guys for doing it.(command kdis)

So it was confusing for all the players on the server.

Just a side note: I would like to have a rule which says it is not allowed: It is hard enough to gain a flag with so much people playing ctf, with xpacking the flag you have no chance at all.

MightyZo0K · 2013-11-09 07:28:05

As long as there is no rule, you can consider it as ok...

DC · 2013-11-09 11:03:11

Okay thx

DC · 2013-11-09 15:27:14

Just to mention one more thing about the different kinds of admins:

Xpacking flag: Some kicking for it, some not, but it is at the moment allowed, means few guys kicking for no reason.

Today: Bombing carrier(midway), lots of admins on, most admins said it is not forbidden, but one admin kicking 2-3 player for it(dunno who the admin is).

Can the admins please make clear decisions and judge equal? The admins should kick when players act against the rules, not when they are pissed of some and think they are doing illegal things...

Timmos · 2013-11-09 17:26:46

carrier is allowed to be bombed, don't know what idiot admin is kicking for it.. But a carrier isnt a safe heaven

Red Scorpion · 2013-11-09 17:26:46

Thought tuia did something so xpacs would not work on ctf maps .

DC · 2013-11-09 17:31:44

Timmos wrote:

carrier is allowed to be bombed, don't know what idiot admin is kicking for it.. But a carrier isnt a safe heaven

I guess it was zody but he does not react on pm or xfire or ingame chat but logs will show it

To red: on guadal and el ala xpacks work.

tuia · 2013-11-09 17:36:37

On some Capture the Flag maps, exp. packs are disabled or they explode after a few seconds to avoid defending flags with it. I haven't managed to modify all CTF maps, yet.

Red Scorpion · 2013-11-09 17:38:40

Oh we'll got it half right

Red Scorpion · 2013-11-09 17:39:40

Carrier is not base so why would you be kicked for attacking it

DC · 2013-11-09 17:41:44

That means it is not a rule? So everyone can use the xpacks if it is possible.

So tuia pls do the favour and give this information to the whole admin teams, about the xpacks and about the carriers. It is frustrating every player and confusing aswell.

Red dont ask me, ask the admin(i guess zody) why he is doing it...

Last edited by DC (2013-11-09 17:42:42)

MightyZo0K · 2013-11-09 17:51:03

MightyZo0K wrote:

As long as there is no rule, you can consider it as ok...

DC · 2013-11-09 17:54:27

Well sim tell it also all the admins who are kicking and banning for those kind of things, just because they dont like it

Red Scorpion · 2013-11-09 18:18:39

Zody why are you doing it? ok done

Frank(Ger) · 2014-01-24 12:52:43

Time to open a grave

Xpack is still not forbidden officially and full available in at least one CTF map, i don´t use it there because i know that it is forbidden on some other servers and i understand that that would be to hard. I think it should be forbidden because ppl should have a chance to know what is allowed and what not before they meet an Admin ingame.
I mean, some admins tell you all kind of bs ingame so we come to the reason i why i post here: Mines.
Yesterday i mined the CTF-flag of axis team at bocage, Watcher was in allied team and said that he will kick or ban(don´t remember what exactly) me if i do that again. I said that it is not forbidden but i defused my mines because i know that he is one of the Admins who ban for self invented rules.
I also know that some skilled players did devellop tactict to get the flag so fast that it is(especially with speed cars) very hard to withstand them without mines. Mines are available in all CTF maps and i never read a rule on any sever that mines are not allowed at a ctf flag.
So i like to have a statement whether mines are allowed or not at CTF-flag. In case it is not allowed, the rules should be supplemented.

Timmos · 2014-01-24 13:19:52

even with expacks, mines, tanks on flag ur still able to cap the flag. It takes some practice but if u do a correct stuka swoop u can do it

moon' · 2014-01-24 13:24:14

B17 is also possible if you have enough speed I believe. [In Bocage for example]

MightyZo0K · 2014-01-24 15:32:58

Yoda should read the rules every morning after he woke up.

Syndrum² · 2014-01-24 18:59:58

MightyZo0K wrote:

Yoda should read the rules every morning after he woke up.

haha xD

Timmos · 2014-01-25 21:18:27

Moonlight wrote:

B17 is also possible if you have enough speed I believe. [In Bocage for example]

no thats way too easy to xpack or even putting a apc/tank on the flag so u enter that one first

i was talking about stuka swoops without chute

tuia · 2014-01-26 21:44:10

Frank(Ger) wrote:

Mines are available in all CTF maps and i never read a rule on any sever that mines are not allowed at a ctf flag.
So i like to have a statement whether mines are allowed or not at CTF-flag. In case it is not allowed, the rules should be supplemented.

It's allowed mines and explosive packs in CTF maps. However, in CTF maps explosive packs will explode in 15 seconds if not detonated by hand first, to avoid placing explosive packs at flags.

Zapp · 2014-01-27 21:42:34

Wouldn't it be possible to make them longer ? I think that 30-45 seconds would be fair : After all, this game asks tactics. If someone xpacks the flag, then find him and kill him. And after all, pilots shouldn't complain about this : At least it avoids people who take planes only in order to bail...

I personally never xpacks flags, but I'm never surprised to see xpacks around flags I'm about to take. I don't see a reason to complain...

tuia · 2014-01-28 00:41:52

30-45 seconds seems to me a bit too much, because the problem with placing explosive packs at the flags is that the engineer hides somewhere and when someone captures flag, he blows up explosive packs. 15 seconds can prevent this, but any time can be chosen.

Zapp · 2014-01-28 17:07:58

Of course, but beware of own teammates that appear and get killed because xpack exploded on its own. Besides, the idea of a ctf map (to my mind) is to make a team effort in order to push enemy. Mastering the positions, covering teammates. Not rushing blindly on a flag...
30 seconds would be a bit more fair... forces the engi to stay around, but gives him time to hide.

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Xpacking flag at CTF allowed?

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