Beliefs ?

Hemnes · 2013-08-07 15:29:44

dary wrote:

Sunshine wrote:
And what do women get?
Women will get a brand new burka with diamonds and stuff and a brand new kitchen.

So, Sun, you have to move to Russia. It's easy to found a perfect husband here, if you ready to cook, raise children, clean your own house.
And btw, we have many muslims here..

Sunshine · 2013-08-07 15:29:52

So women will get a perfect husband and they will be obedient to their husbands?

Men get 72 virgins who they plow like a snowplow in January? So basically. .. the women are just sex objects that are "gifts".

Besides that it sounds like forced sex trafficking, why is it so demeaning towards women? Just curious.

Sunshine · 2013-08-07 15:34:15

Hemnes wrote:

dary wrote:
Sunshine wrote:
And what do women get?
Women will get a brand new burka with diamonds and stuff and a brand new kitchen.
So, Sun, you have to move to Russia. It's easy to found a perfect husband here, if you ready to cook, raise children, clean your own house.
And btw, we have many muslims here..

I'm fine here thanks

I could sell those diamonds though...

dary · 2013-08-07 15:36:06

You don't even know your own religion because you said you are no expert, so how can you answer my questions?

Everyone who really believes in a relgion should read the Quran or Bible. Otherwise you shouldn't say that you are religious.

Did you read the Quran at all? I don't know how many versions of the Quran there are, i am talking about the real Quran and not Sharia or any bullshit Quran from Saudia-Arabia or something.

Hemnes · 2013-08-07 15:37:03

Sunshine wrote:

So women will get a perfect husband and they will be obedient to their husbands?
Men get 72 virgins who they plow like a snowplow in January? So basically. .. the women are just sex objects that are "gifts".
Besides that it sounds like forced sex trafficking, why is it so demeaning towards women? Just curious.

A feminist ?
I agree, your rights leave much to be desired..

Sunshine · 2013-08-07 15:39:54

I am by no means a feminist.

say · 2013-08-07 15:40:51

woman gets what they deserve ... a man tht respect her at this (heavenHELL) ...& what if she doesnt want it ?
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seventy · 2013-08-07 15:43:41

I think that Hook has provided a very interesting link about the basics of Islam. For more detailed questions it would be better to ask somebody who is more knowledgable, for not every Muslim is a scholar and we do not know the detailed reasons behind every aspect of Islam.

Hemnes · 2013-08-07 16:07:23

As I know, Islam isn't a kind and merciful religion.

joint · 2013-08-07 16:09:33

the funny thing that if you were born, for example , in christian country/state/family, you can become only christian in religious, is that your unbiased choise? more looks like politics and tons of bullshit, to own you
all prophets have warned about this shit, but people are herd in its essence, they dont want to have the severity of self-determination, much more easier to follow the herd

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Hemnes · 2013-08-07 16:18:12

joint wrote:

the funny thing that if you were born, for example , in christian country/state/family, you can become only christian in religious, is that your unbiased choise? more looks like politics and tons of bullshit, to own you
all prophets have warned about this shit, but people are herd in its essence, they dont want to have the severity of self-determination, much more easier to follow the herd

Everyone makes their own choice,I think so.
If you do not have a belief, you belong to a herd of useless consumers.

s[sk] · 2013-08-07 16:22:21

Blind Eddy wrote:

I think that Hook has provided a very interesting link about the basics of Islam.

are you it's not just some parody site masking as the real one?

e.g.

What is Sharia?
Sharia is the comprehensive Muslim law derived form two sources, a) the Quran b) the Sunnah or traditions of Prophet Muhammad (P). It covers every aspect of daily individual and collective living. The purpose of Islamic laws are protection of individuals' basic human rights to include right to life, property, political and religious freedom and safeguarding the rights of women and minorities

s[sk] · 2013-08-07 16:24:19

Hemnes wrote:

If you do not have a belief, you belong to a herd of useless consumers.

because?

Sunshine · 2013-08-07 16:26:46

No one pressured me to become a Christian. My parents never pressured us to believe in certain religious views. The only time is when we would pray before dinner. I'm not a bible thumper or anything. I really don't care what religion someone is (except scientologists. WTF!?). Let me be me and I'll let you be you.

I believe everyone can have their religion or no religion. There is no "correct" one for all. The "right" religion is the one you choose or not choose. It is a personal choice.

Sociopatico · 2013-08-07 16:27:06

http://www.thejaywalker.com/pages/shit_happens.html

Sunshine · 2013-08-07 16:29:02

s[sk] wrote:

The purpose of Islamic laws are protection of individuals' basic human rights to include right to life, property, political and religious freedom and safeguarding the rights of women and minorities

This made me giggle.

dary · 2013-08-07 16:33:08

s[sk] wrote:

Hemnes wrote:
If you do not have a belief, you belong to a herd of useless consumers.
because?

Because he is 15.

Hemnes · 2013-08-07 16:33:30

s[sk] wrote:

Hemnes wrote:
If you do not have a belief, you belong to a herd of useless consumers.
because?

Faith gives us the purpose of life..The laws and regulations ..
How are you different from animals because they also make children, eat, kill each other ..
Sorry,but I have no experience in the debate about religion.. I can't prove you anything.

Sunshine · 2013-08-07 16:36:06

You don't need religion to have a "purpose". I know a couple athiests and they obey the law and are not bad people.

Hemnes · 2013-08-07 16:36:07

dary wrote:

s[sk] wrote:
Hemnes wrote:
If you do not have a belief, you belong to a herd of useless consumers.
because?
Because he is 15.

Then,I can't have my own opinion?

joint · 2013-08-07 16:36:42

Hemnes wrote:

Everyone makes their own choice,I think so.
If you do not have a belief, you belong to a herd of useless consumers.

blind belief is for thinking human, Jesus wasnt a rebel, you must listen and obey, and this is your own choise, because you have belief- perfect circle! also it is better for progress of society, though fatal to the individual, im not state how is right to live, just express my thoughts to the people in the internet, like we all do, and yes, im a useless consumers, are you not?;)
X, what your belief???

Hemnes · 2013-08-07 16:38:53

Sunshine wrote:

You don't need religion to have a "purpose". I know a couple athiests and they obey the law and are not bad people.

Thanks, Sun, but I'm not interested in your opinion.

Sunshine · 2013-08-07 16:39:49

Lmao.

Otay

Hemnes · 2013-08-07 16:41:22

joint wrote:

Hemnes wrote:
Everyone makes their own choice,I think so.
If you do not have a belief, you belong to a herd of useless consumers.
blind belief is for thinking human, Jesus wasnt a rebel, you must listen and obey, and this is your own choise, because you have belief- perfect circle! also it is better for progress of society, though fatal to the individual, im not state how is right to live, just express my thoughts to the people in the internet, like we all do, and yes, im a useless consumers, are you not?;)
X, what your belief???

Well, what are your values in life?

dary · 2013-08-07 16:42:19

Hemnes, you don't need to go bed?

Hemnes · 2013-08-07 16:43:47

dary wrote:

Hemnes, you don't need to go bed?

No.

joint · 2013-08-07 16:45:18

Hemnes wrote:

joint wrote:
Hemnes wrote:
Everyone makes their own choice,I think so.
If you do not have a belief, you belong to a herd of useless consumers.
blind belief is for thinking human, Jesus wasnt a rebel, you must listen and obey, and this is your own choise, because you have belief- perfect circle! also it is better for progress of society, though fatal to the individual, im not state how is right to live, just express my thoughts to the people in the internet, like we all do, and yes, im a useless consumers, are you not?;)
X, what your belief???
Well, what are your values in life?

with the values is much more easier, right?;) anyway, my opinion shouldnt be interested:)

dary · 2013-08-07 16:48:28

Hemnes wrote:

dary wrote:
s[sk] wrote:
because?
Because he is 15.
Then,I can't have my own opinion?

In this world are too many people who always have an opinion, without having any knowledge. They are just talking the same nonsense what they hear from their parents and whatever...

HoOK · 2013-08-07 16:48:37

dary wrote:

You don't even know your own religion because you said you are no expert
Did you read the Quran at all? I don't know how many versions of the Quran there are, i am talking about the real Quran and not Sharia or any bullshit Quran from Saudia-Arabia or something.

The things that I told u are basics ( everybody know them)
And yes I read Quran
We have 1 Quran that never changed ( unchanged) since 1434 years
But what about u?

Hemnes · 2013-08-07 16:52:07

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