#1 2013-05-23 15:49:22

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Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

Please explain to me something.
It happened today on Guadalcanal:
1. I saw Timmos in D4 and began the persecution. He was in plane high over capturable flag.
2. He flew to the airfield. I flew closer to him.
3. Then Timmos flew over runway and I killed him in C3.
5. Timmos kicked me for baserape.
What rule was violated? Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

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#2 2013-05-23 15:52:24

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

one thing is to be in a dogfight situation and your opponent runs back to the the base, its a safe zone but in that type of situation it should be not considered that way. Another thing is chasing a guy only to kill him there. Maybe he didnt even knew you were on his back.

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#3 2013-05-23 15:57:21

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

http://team-simple.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1429

...it´s not forbidden And timmos know this 100%!!!

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#4 2013-05-23 16:05:05

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

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...Maybe he didnt even knew you were on his back.

Could be. I shot few times at him back in D4, but missed, therefore I decided to fly more close.

"Bad request. The link you followed is incorrect or outdated."

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#5 2013-05-23 16:05:23

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

Why is he even admin?

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#6 2013-05-23 16:07:44

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

Lecter wrote:

one thing is to be in a dogfight situation and your opponent runs back to the the base, its a safe zone but in that type of situation it should be not considered that way. Another thing is chasing a guy only to kill him there. Maybe he didnt even knew you were on his back.

You are incorrect. If the pilot left some area for start-up and got an altitude he need for dogfight, he is ready to dogfight then. He can't just go through the base and say "I am over the base, don't shoot me or I kick you". There are no any "safe zones".

Telrin wrote:

Please explain to me something.
It happened today on Guadalcanal:
1. I saw Timmos in D4 and began the persecution. He was in plane high over capturable flag.
2. He flew to the airfield. I flew closer to him.
3. Then Timmos flew over runway and I killed him in C3.
5. Timmos kicked me for baserape.
What rule was violated? Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

This way?
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#7 2013-05-23 16:09:22

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

wow wow wow, as first i was getting altitude because i was starting?! therefor u come on my back while i COULDNT DO ANYTHING, i didnt even had speed to turn because my landing gear wasnt even in. For that, thats basecamping and that gives u a deserved kick...

dont try to get me on mistakes, because u will fail

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#8 2013-05-23 16:16:04

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

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wow wow wow, as first i was getting altitude because i was starting?! therefor u come on my back while i COULDNT DO ANYTHING, i didnt even had speed to turn because my landing gear wasnt even in. For that, thats basecamping and that gives u a deserved kick...

dont try to get me on mistakes, because u will fail

If you're getting altitude over the capturable flag on this map then the others should feel free to shoot you down.

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#9 2013-05-23 16:23:28

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

Timmos wrote:

wow wow wow, as first i was getting altitude because i was starting?! therefor u come on my back while i COULDNT DO ANYTHING, i didnt even had speed to turn because my landing gear wasnt even in. For that, thats basecamping and that gives u a deserved kick...

dont try to get me on mistakes, because u will fail

Eh, getting altitude over enemy flags so lame =/
You have squads A1:C3 for this. Just fly to sea on left side from your airfield

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This way?

Almost (from D4 to C3):
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#10 2013-05-23 16:25:56

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

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Timmos wrote:

wow wow wow, as first i was getting altitude because i was starting?! therefor u come on my back while i COULDNT DO ANYTHING, i didnt even had speed to turn because my landing gear wasnt even in. For that, thats basecamping and that gives u a deserved kick...

dont try to get me on mistakes, because u will fail

If you're getting altitude over the capturable flag on this map then the others should feel free to shoot you down.


No Nameless, that is not allowed. Otherwise you are saying that u can kill in the safe zone and allege "he was getting altitude" all the time. If he is getting altitude there that´s his business, hes not shooting anyone down or chasing anyone.

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#11 2013-05-23 16:46:58

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

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No Nameless, that is not allowed. Otherwise you are saying that u can kill in the safe zone and allege "he was getting altitude" all the time. If he is getting altitude there that´s his business, hes not shooting anyone down or chasing anyone.

So people can take-off over enemy flags? Ok. But it's weird. Then I can take-off all the time, higher and higher... and shout: "I taking-off and even not shooting. Kick him!", if somebody shot me down.

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#12 2013-05-23 16:57:31

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

Lecter confused capturable with uncapturable smile

Anyways Telrin no point to discuss this here as its your word against his. Just keep in mind that some admins are more emotional and will always kick u in these borderline situations. Just reconnect and continue playing tongue

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#13 2013-05-23 17:01:54

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

The first flag could be the flag from the enemy, therefore if you get altitude over the enemy territory of course you are free to be shot down. Otherwise even a tank wouldn't be allowed to shot you down. Just get altitude over c2, b2...

Tuia?

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#14 2013-05-23 18:04:34

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

for the retards among us, the plane spawns at c3, then i drove over to c2 and got airborn at d3. NO SPEED OR ALTITUDE, what does that mean? BASECAMPING, jeez guys my landing gear was not even in.. and u think its allowed to shoot me then?

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#15 2013-05-23 18:33:55

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

Timmos wrote:

for the retards among us, the plane spawns at c3, then i drove over to c2 and got airborn at d3.

and he's calling us retards smile

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#16 2013-05-23 18:58:57

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

Lecter wrote:
nämeless wrote:
Timmos wrote:

wow wow wow, as first i was getting altitude because i was starting?! therefor u come on my back while i COULDNT DO ANYTHING, i didnt even had speed to turn because my landing gear wasnt even in. For that, thats basecamping and that gives u a deserved kick...

dont try to get me on mistakes, because u will fail

If you're getting altitude over the capturable flag on this map then the others should feel free to shoot you down.


No Nameless, that is not allowed. Otherwise you are saying that u can kill in the safe zone and allege "he was getting altitude" all the time. If he is getting altitude there that´s his business, hes not shooting anyone down or chasing anyone.

You are wrong. Safe zone is for take off only. If I see the enemy pilot taking off from the airfield in front of the main base, I always say: "Okay, see you around soon enough when you will be high..." (I mean altitude, not drugs).
The CAPTURABLE base is the enemy territory and if the pilot is flying through - it's kinda his problem. He can get altitude somewhere else.

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#17 2013-05-23 19:01:53

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

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Lecter wrote:
nämeless wrote:

If you're getting altitude over the capturable flag on this map then the others should feel free to shoot you down.


No Nameless, that is not allowed. Otherwise you are saying that u can kill in the safe zone and allege "he was getting altitude" all the time. If he is getting altitude there that´s his business, hes not shooting anyone down or chasing anyone.

You are wrong. Safe zone is for take off only. If I see the enemy pilot taking off from the airfield in front of the main base, I always say: "Okay, see you around soon enough when you will be high..." (I mean altitude, not drugs).
The CAPTURABLE base is the enemy territory and if the pilot is flying through - it's kinda his problem. He can get altitude somewhere else.

ok basically i will call it camping then. Ill fly high and wait for you to get altitude or not

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#18 2013-05-23 19:03:00

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

Ramjet wrote:
Timmos wrote:

for the retards among us, the plane spawns at c3, then i drove over to c2 and got airborn at d3.

and he's calling us retards smile

It's like the fat man teaches you how to do gym. smile

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#19 2013-05-23 19:09:34

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

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Lecter wrote:

No Nameless, that is not allowed. Otherwise you are saying that u can kill in the safe zone and allege "he was getting altitude" all the time. If he is getting altitude there that´s his business, hes not shooting anyone down or chasing anyone.

You are wrong. Safe zone is for take off only. If I see the enemy pilot taking off from the airfield in front of the main base, I always say: "Okay, see you around soon enough when you will be high..." (I mean altitude, not drugs).
The CAPTURABLE base is the enemy territory and if the pilot is flying through - it's kinda his problem. He can get altitude somewhere else.

ok basically i will call it camping then. Ill fly high and wait for you to get altitude or not

It's not a camping because I don't pursue the prey during its start-up and I fly everywhere. It's like an implicit need for some small maps like Kharkov or Battleaxe at a quite short distance from point to point.

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#20 2013-05-23 21:34:57

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

timmos is pro pilot, once he catched me too without any speed, than he made some turns around me, and crashed into me
i admit i was out of the main base for few meters, but still, i dont know what happened, but i know timmos is playing lame

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#21 2013-05-23 22:04:31

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

I see two sides to this story and both are not the same!

If we had one more guy who seen it happend this would be over by now. big_smile

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#22 2013-05-23 22:21:29

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

Denny wrote:

timmos is pro pilot, once he catched me too without any speed, than he made some turns around me, and crashed into me
i admit i was out of the main base for few meters, but still, i dont know what happened, but i know timmos is playing lame


sure, try me anytime.. if i ask u for a 1on1 u are to afraid to go

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#23 2013-05-24 05:29:46

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

I'm still waiting for my duel

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#24 2013-05-24 08:19:20

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

DOGFIGHT!!!! Denny VS Timmos!!!

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I'm still waiting for my duel

i thought you 2 had agreed about it, what happened, why you didnt have it?

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#25 2013-05-24 09:15:06

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i thought you 2 had agreed about it, what happened, why you didnt have it?

Weather was bad :-)

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#26 2013-05-24 13:36:41

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Re: Now forbidden to shoot down planes that returned to base?

Timmos wrote:
Denny wrote:

timmos is pro pilot, once he catched me too without any speed, than he made some turns around me, and crashed into me
i admit i was out of the main base for few meters, but still, i dont know what happened, but i know timmos is playing lame


sure, try me anytime.. if i ask u for a 1on1 u are to afraid to go

I told u i dont waste my time on newbies like you, i just described in upper post how you play

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