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KILLER88

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BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

This brittish loser cannot be taken seriously anymore. Butcher keeps bugging since for  5 years + yet the guy is untouchable because of Paul Baumer's dictatorship. Credit where it's due, he's one of better players here(when playing within rules) even though he's a complete garbage of a human being.

- Making shitty videos about others - deservedly banned from BF League for year + added on the list of poor players. Some of videos were disrespecting others so much, even putting shit on their heads that these bfplayers wanted to sue him in court.

- making shitty video about me and my looks again,  trolling with much more that had to be given some private talk again

- known cheater - beside all we know, even most of admins know, dude also admitted himself cheating. There is a lot more to this, yet Paul baumer not just refuses to ban him, he does not let any admin to even kick him - conquer has to hold together at all costs.
BmC knows alot about his behavior, so you should not be surprised they do not want to play against him.

- buggin for 5+ years.
There's half of SIMPLE admins asking to ban butcher. "what do we do about butchers bugging". "when do we ban Butcher" etc. I could name at least 11 active admins who tried to stop this dude. One of them is catcher of cheaters, hes done so much for Simple, yet Paul ignored him as well. So poor.

Paul Baumer ignored all admins requests and asks 40+ times in the past about 4 years, protecting and covering brittish Butcher. This is unacceptable.

In the meantime, another former admin today - ziba128 - also caught Butcher bugging, but Butcher and Estonians made videos about ziba bugging. FINAL RESULT? ZIBA GOT BANNED, ZIBA LOST ADMIN RIGHTS - yet brittish scum Butcher remained untouchable again.

I was one of admins who had to deal with this shit pretending I dont see that. I said I wont anymore. We had a conversation with Paul, where Paul finally admitted " we can ban Butcher when there's video evidence.
So I brought videos, many videos, in one month at least 5 of them in high quality, all 5 got ignored again and Paul's dicatorship continues.

Here's 2 videos which I just uploaded now on youtube. Sorry for the quality, but I wasnt gonna waste any more time with this and yes, all admins + Paul saw this video on full quality. 
If you guys ever wondered why you cant get regs on certain player's, they keep bugging and its probably allowed, at least for some players. He keeps bugging all game long and keeps changing nicks every time so you wont recnogize it is him again, but he has ping 19-21, so its not that hard, if you dont have tools to see his IP and keyhash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6xiYQz_T_c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-mSRyScvhE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAuwb9somMI

I deleted many other videos from my channel already.

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deeko

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

You would ban someone for these videos? lmfao how did u even get admin rights?

Karl Donutz

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

wasting your time, him and gang mates untouchable

deeko

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

Clear case of Getting rekt and can't handle it

KILLER88

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

You would ban someone for these videos? lmfao how did u even get admin rights?

Useless comment from biased conquer member. Water is still wet. Dont pretend you have no clue what he does.

His videos show one of smoothest gameplays of BF1942 that ever been seen, even Paul admitted it. Sad part is he could be still owning more than half of simple, but he couldnt save his life if not presing Z would depend on it.

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KILLER88

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

https://youtu.be/vAuwb9somMI?si=m4QD4aqeuxn2hqdR

Here is another new video of Butcher. Loser will always be a loser.

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Black Mamba

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

This brittish loser cannot be taken seriously anymore. Butcher keeps bugging since for  5 years + yet the guy is untouchable because of Paul Baumer's dictatorship. Credit where it's due, he's one of better players here(when playing within rules) even though he's a complete garbage of a human being.

- Making shitty videos about others - deservedly banned from BF League for year + added on the list of poor players. Some of videos were disrespecting others so much, even putting shit on their heads that these bfplayers wanted to sue him in court.

- making shitty video about me and my looks again,  trolling with much more that had to be given some private talk again

- known cheater - beside all we know, even most of admins know, dude also admitted himself cheating. There is a lot more to this, yet Paul baumer not just refuses to ban him, he does not let any admin to even kick him - conquer has to hold together at all costs.
BmC knows alot about his behavior, so you should not be surprised they do not want to play against him.

- buggin for 5+ years.
There's half of SIMPLE admins asking to ban butcher. "what do we do about butchers bugging". "when do we ban Butcher" etc. I could name at least 11 active admins who tried to stop this dude. One of them is catcher of cheaters, hes done so much for Simple, yet Paul ignored him as well. So poor.

Paul Baumer ignored all admins requests and asks 40+ times in the past about 4 years, protecting and covering brittish Butcher. This is unacceptable.

In the meantime, another former admin today - ziba128 - also caught Butcher bugging, but Butcher and Estonians made videos about ziba bugging. FINAL RESULT? ZIBA GOT BANNED, ZIBA LOST ADMIN RIGHTS - yet brittish scum Butcher remained untouchable again.

I was one of admins who had to deal with this shit pretending I dont see that. I said I wont anymore. We had a conversation with Paul, where Paul finally admitted " we can ban Butcher when there's video evidence.
So I brought videos, many videos, in one month at least 5 of them in high quality, all 5 got ignored again and Paul's dicatorship continues.

Here's 2 videos which I just uploaded now on youtube. Sorry for the quality, but I wasnt gonna waste any more time with this and yes, all admins + Paul saw this video on full quality. 
If you guys ever wondered why you cant get regs on certain player's, they keep bugging and its probably allowed, at least for some players. He keeps bugging all game long and keeps changing nicks every time so you wont recnogize it is him again, but he has ping 19-21, so its not that hard, if you dont have tools to see his IP and keyhash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6xiYQz_T_c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-mSRyScvhE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAuwb9somMI

I deleted many other videos from my channel already.

First two vids aren’t bugging.

Darcano

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

Waiting for Part 3 to form an opinion.

KILLER88

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

What does it matter Mamba? Whatever you want to call that, he knows clearly what he is doing, pulls all the strings to be unhittable and he does it on purpose all rounds.  Its forbidden, easy as that. I played on axis before I went on to help struggling allied team. He was alomst always unhittable/unkillable. Imagine if 40 players on the server played this way against the rules. Funny how video 3 got zero comments even from the Estonians. Clear bugging

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l16XJoy … annel=Mrev

KILLER88

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAuwb9somMI

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

If that is bugging you'd need to forbid the use of Z (prone) altogether. A mod was introduced a while back that disables it, by butcher himself I believe lol
Prone creates bugs if you use it even once - either allow small time bugs or completely disable and forbid it. Either way only the noobs will suffer - that's the hard truth.

KILLER88

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

There is much much more which just isnt on my recordings, which you all love to pretend doesnt exist.

Yet alone lets forget all the cheats this brittish scam used + all the modding.

Btw still waiting for your expert comment on video 3. That’s surely another “pro inf gameplay”

Russian MadMax

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

shooting toes doesnt work killer? just asking

KILLER88

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

Yep, that works, with really low damage u know + it takes time before you realize ur oppoment is bugging - bcs my 1st instinct is to shoot the head/upper body.  Then think that some ppl have poor connection, are stuck on low fps about 80-100. Butchers videos constantly show he has unlimited fps and run as high as 500-600 fps. And why should people adjust and tolerate it? We have rules to follow. But same guys who exploit lot of shit get protected all the time.
Fine, we all can start playing dirty when nothing happens.
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deeko

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHrZRJR4igQ

Black Mamba

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

Let it go Killer. You are trying to prove something that is already a well known fact. If Butcher wants to bug with 20 ping that’s his choice, nothing can be done about that really. Half the server is emulating his bugs anyway.

The only way to solve the prone bugging issue is through modding, if there was a way to have a server-side mod which delays the transitions between other animation states (standing and crouching) and proning, so that you can’t instantly prone, that would probably solve the issue.

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deeko

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

Let it go Killer. You are trying to prove something that is already a well known fact. If Butcher wants to bug with 20 ping that’s his choice, nothing can be done about that really. Half the server is emulating his bugs anyway.

Why's it so hard to get a proper video going then? These mobile phone recordings of the slowest Z ever is not going to cut it. It's actually super simple to get a good video of someone who is constantly doing it. Ziba was practically humping the floor non stop and it took me 5 mins to catch it.

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

shooting toes doesnt work killer? just asking

Problem with that is if they do one of those nasty forbidden bugs behind the sandbags.  Then you can't see their feet and they can kill multiple targets whilst being invincible.  All you can do is try to dodge and hope they miss and run out of ammo...

https://youtu.be/_4l7OSZRjyU

KILLER88

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

Who said its hard? You guys love to record compared to me, you know i couldnt care less to record someone. My game is buggy enough to say the very least. All these recordings were at time where i wasnt even planning to do so, just out of blue.

Ziba caught Butcher with great video, Abas caught Butcher with good video too. Because you yourself didnt see that doesnt mean it doesnt exist or wasnt talked about. There’s around 10 admins who have proofs and want butcher banned, but there’s no words for what is Paul being like lately. I thanked him privately for all the great work he’s done and all the time he’s put in. This is a different case tho.

Nothing ever happens to Butcher. There’s so much evidence actually. Then you come with one video about ziba and ziba gets banned immediately + loses admin. This is complete bullshit.
Not even going to mention tragic again. Nobody from admins want him with powers anywa, that speaks for itself too.
Do you think there’s 10 admin guys who are delusional about Butcher? I doubt it, whatever feelings u might have for each of them.

As Mamba said, if Butcher needs bugging and more with 20 ping, it says a lot more about him.

KILLER88

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

shooting toes doesnt work killer? just asking

Problem with that is if they do one of those nasty forbidden bugs behind the sandbags.  Then you can't see their feet and they can kill multiple targets whilst being invincible.  All you can do is try to dodge and hope they miss and run out of ammo...

https://youtu.be/_4l7OSZRjyU

So glad you posted this video from couple days ago. I saw ur head there while u were busy with others, I shot like 13 bullets to your head, you were “miraculously” unhittable from my position, as you always are. Now you see what it feels like playing agains you.
As you would love to say “somebody cannot cope with being owned by better player”. You dont deserve anything else.

deeko

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

Well, post one of the videos here and let's compare it to zibas and break it down. Can't ban someone for simply hiding. Yes you definitely don't care, these essays here waste more of your time than a proper recording. If we go by your logic, you should be banned too

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KILLER88

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

Its actually worse than “just bugging”, but i cant spit all the stuff i got to know. There’s a reason why it was talked privately and not here on public forum. If you want, go and ask these persons personally to show you, i got you couple names here.
I got u what you mean, but.. i might be wrong, but all those past years i think im one of cleanest players when it comes to even pressing Z, bcs I know how frustrating it can be for ur enemy. Even on Berlin in windows i dont even press Z, I go Ctrl(crouch) straight like 95% of the time. When I accidentally bugged against you or simon i always say “sorry” or didnt mean to do it, I think you can confirm. Thats it

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deeko

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

I can already imagine those private chats, full of gossip and hearsay, just like it used to be with me. If there's anything certain, they'd shut us down real quick.

You can only count the spamming and doing it in every corner. There are several noobies in simple that do it 10x worse than Butcher.

KILLER88

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

Your opinion.
Most probably would shut Butcher down only if there was whoever than Paul. He’s digged for him, for you and simon ever since I got my admin back. Believe it or not, except some  bs like Omaha ruining round with beach camping, i didnt have any serious problem neither with you or ur brother. Cant remember you would get kicked, whatever. Even when it came to inf-ing, i did agree with Paul its fine play with/against you both since you got back from being perm banned. Playing against you two feels 90% better than against Butcher who you can never get hits on.

I agree about ur last part, but most of them dont even know what they are doing. Butcher does all on purpose every time with all the experience he has with all those years of playing

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

I love this game, it is fun even without playing:)

KILLER88

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

https://ibb.co/hxMbK4sg

Lmao

Darcano

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

I love this game, it is fun even without playing:)

You can actually have more fun here, the server has been pretty stale lately.

It's sad that the only good players left are the cheaters.

Black Mamba

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

I love this game, it is fun even without playing:)

Hey Volt, it’s really sad that BFL is gone, can we have any hope of it coming back one day?

deeko

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Re: BUG ABUSE - BUTCHER - DOUBLE STANDARTS - part 2

This here is a bugger and i'm sure that he knows what he is doing too. But nobody cares about him cause he sux
https://youtu.be/H8bWCicYXlk?si=Ok6FkMqfmumQ-w3O