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Saw in news more than 70% of russians support war in Ukraine. Stupid russians. Wonder how much it will be when the battlefield shifts into their regions.
Saw in news more than 70% of russians support war in Ukraine. Stupid russians. Wonder how much it will be when the battlefield shifts into their regions.
Was it Ukrainian news ?
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Na, it's more somehow 30%-40%, i guess.
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joint wrote:Saw in news more than 70% of russians support war in Ukraine. Stupid russians. Wonder how much it will be when the battlefield shifts into their regions.
Was it Ukrainian news ?
actually yes but they reffer to
https://www.levada.ru/2022/12/02/konfli … 2022-goda/
Its summary result "definitely yes" and "mostly yes". Seems legit, i would be happy if it wasnt truth
Levada Center is a non-governmental research organization. The largest independent polling center in Russia. The Center regularly conducts its own and commissioned sociological and marketing research and is one of the largest organizations in its field in Russia. Wikipedia.
Date of foundation: 2003
Founder: Yuri Alexandrovich Levada
Last edited by joint (2022-12-05 18:13:55)
blue is yes, lightblue is mostly, at left are month of 2022 from feb to nov
Levada Center is a non-governmental research organization. The largest independent polling center in Russia. The Center regularly conducts its own and commissioned sociological and marketing research and is one of the largest organizations in its field in Russia. Wikipedia.
Date of foundation: 2003
Founder: Yuri Alexandrovich Levada
Believing the information about Russia, voiced by the Levada Center, is about the same as believing the information of the North Korean mass media about the United States.
Meow wrote:joint wrote:Saw in news more than 70% of russians support war in Ukraine. Stupid russians. Wonder how much it will be when the battlefield shifts into their regions.
Was it Ukrainian news ?
actually yes but they reffer to
https://www.levada.ru/2022/12/02/konfli … 2022-goda/
Its summary result "definitely yes" and "mostly yes". Seems legit, i would be happy if it wasnt truthLevada Center is a non-governmental research organization. The largest independent polling center in Russia. The Center regularly conducts its own and commissioned sociological and marketing research and is one of the largest organizations in its field in Russia. Wikipedia.
Date of foundation: 2003
Founder: Yuri Alexandrovich Levada
So I guess that you refer to "russian propaganda" medias ? When to say they lie and when to say they tell the truth ?
Last edited by Meow (2022-12-05 21:34:16)
joint wrote:Levada Center is a non-governmental research organization. The largest independent polling center in Russia. The Center regularly conducts its own and commissioned sociological and marketing research and is one of the largest organizations in its field in Russia. Wikipedia.
Date of foundation: 2003
Founder: Yuri Alexandrovich LevadaBelieving the information about Russia, voiced by the Levada Center, is about the same as believing the information of the North Korean mass media about the United States.
ok, maybe i just fell into propahanda? i try to be unbiased..how about ВЦИОМ with same numbers, who they are?
https://www.vedomosti.ru/society/news/2 … operatsiyu
so is there are real numbers? what if war supporters are in minority and your goverment does it against people will? id like to find it out.
as i know media cheef of coverage of this war is daughter of minister of defence of Russia Шойгу, Шойгу, Ксения Сергеевна, and she is very rich girl, her huspand is Deputy Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation and of course they both are not corrupted russian boyars. same as childrens of Шойгу's deputies, some are chilling in England, again, as far i informed.
its hard to imagine that in a not godloving country such people could be in power. i totaly understand i just a human and could be deceived by masters of propahanda, i ready to accept that, is there any good sourse of info you suggest?
"In war, truth is the first loss".
I don't remind who said it and I won't lose time to look for.
Public opinion can be corrupted, it depends on how the question is given. And public opinion can be falsified. It's same with russian papers saying that Ukrainian people are nazis.
You can find nazis everywhere, unfortunately, in Ukraine, in Russia, in France, Germany, Switzerland, USA, Spain...
If you ask "should we make war to nazis ?" everyone will say "yes, we must !". Set in their brain that nazis are there and they all want war against it. And what become people who say no ?
Good intention serving bad purpose.
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There you see ...
https://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/videos/po … 63486.html
She is completly nuts and the others can not risk to say, what the really think.
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"In war, truth is the first loss".
I don't remind who said it and I won't lose time to look for.Public opinion can be corrupted, it depends on how the question is given. And public opinion can be falsified. It's same with russian papers saying that Ukrainian people are nazis.
You can find nazis everywhere, unfortunately, in Ukraine, in Russia, in France, Germany, Switzerland, USA, Spain...
If you ask "should we make war to nazis ?" everyone will say "yes, we must !". Set in their brain that nazis are there and they all want war against it. And what become people who say no ?
Good intention serving bad purpose.
Absolutely. Thats why always better listen words but judge by deeds.
Like this, it says a lot, the guy was in government, than run away and become critic of Kadyrov, watched him couple times, he had channel on youtube. We here are maybe crazy, but they are mad, im telling you.
https://www.france24.com/en/20090330-pr … led-dubai-
Posted old murder, here is from yesterday
https://oc-media.org/sweden-based-chech … -murdered/
Last edited by joint (2022-12-06 16:42:13)
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There you see ...
https://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/videos/po … 63486.html
She is completly nuts and the others can not risk to say, what the really think.
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For god sake, is this article written with Mordor's language ? I can't read it
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To complete, ... first she asked, "would we give up the Crimea without 3rd worldwar",
... from then on look the reactions of the others.
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Last edited by Arkos (2022-12-06 22:59:34)
For god sake, is this article written with Mordor's language ? I can't read it
It happens i picked up some Mordor during my travels,
and since you seem to be a nice person i will translate the key passage for you.
I don't know if the translation from russian is correct though, but here we have the subtitles from 1:23 - 1:47 in english:
We would never bomb Kiev because of this major reason - our holy sites are located in Kiev.
Neither Vladimir Putin nor Sergei Schoigu would ever decide to bomb the Kiev Cave Monastery, for example.
That's out of the question.
But we have no holy sites in Washington or London. Not a single holy site is located there, nor in Berlin...
Not a single holy site is located there, nor in Berlin...
I heard they own a wall in Berlin, but idk if they consider it as "holy"...
Last edited by Meow (2022-12-07 16:18:25)
lol Meow...
Zwarrior wrote:Arkos wrote:Ramsan Kadyrow is one of Putin´s dog who rules by dictatorship in Chechnya, one of the russian federation banana republic´s. We can shave that beard of his whenever he wants. I bet that if we take this parasite off the face of earth Chechnya would want to proclaim also its own independencel, lol.
Of course... I would like to see you saying that to him face to face. That would be lol.
https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a … 0svav1.mp4
Kadyrovs push-ups is the funniest thing I've seen lately, the russian version of this would be of course that ''he was pushing the Earth down'' lol
Ah shit, here we go again xD
A very correct view of the events taking place in the world from a French scientist for those who can read (Le Figaro, France):
https://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/monde/emman … e-20230112
It is important that the Ukrainians themselves realize this, because they are just hostages in this situation, but not "warriors of light"... :-(
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Очень правильный взгляд на происходящие в мире события от французского ученого для тех, кто умеет читать (Le Figaro, Франция):
https://inosmi.ru/20230115/prognozy-259721758.html
Важно, чтобы это осознали сами украинцы, ведь они - просто заложники в этой ситуации, но никак не «воины света»... :-(
ᵣussians, those who can still think.
Don't forget you're getting fkt by your own.
https://i.ibb.co/TgW0y9s/IMG-20230107-204806-146.jpg
The sign on the car: "Biden is a schmuck"
And? …
(keep watching) (c)
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I hope that my joint is doing okay. It's very bad news from Dnipro.
The sign on the car: "Biden is a schmuck"
nice ZV photoshop
how about looking at the bigger picture for once?
how about looking at the bigger picture for once?
Here's the big picture for you:
A very correct view of the events taking place in the world from a French scientist for those who can read (Le Figaro, France):
https://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/monde/emman … e-20230112
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Очень правильный взгляд на происходящие в мире события от французского ученого для тех, кто умеет читать (Le Figaro, Франция):
https://inosmi.ru/20230115/prognozy-259721758.html
simon wrote:how about looking at the bigger picture for once?
Here's the big picture for you:
A very correct view of the events taking place in the world from a French scientist for those who can read (Le Figaro, France):
https://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/monde/emman … e-20230112————————————————————————
Очень правильный взгляд на происходящие в мире события от французского ученого для тех, кто умеет читать (Le Figaro, Франция):
https://inosmi.ru/20230115/prognozy-259721758.html
Your link is broken.
John Gult wrote:simon wrote:how about looking at the bigger picture for once?
Here's the big picture for you:
A very correct view of the events taking place in the world from a French scientist for those who can read (Le Figaro, France):
https://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/monde/emman … e-20230112————————————————————————
Очень правильный взгляд на происходящие в мире события от французского ученого для тех, кто умеет читать (Le Figaro, Франция):
https://inosmi.ru/20230115/prognozy-259721758.htmlYour link is broken.
I'm sorry.
Here is a working link to the article in French.
https://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/monde/emman … e-20230112
Last edited by John Gult (2023-01-18 12:59:03)
What do you consider a victory? It's not about 2 sides e.g west vs east. It's about humanity and freedom against globalists and technocrats..
Should there really be a power shift from west to east (China and Russia), then I'll be dipped, all the conspiracy theorists have been right. There are signs that it could go that way but it won't happen overnight, the dismantling of western economy is in progress - but you shouldn't cheer for that either