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you better read about the Katyn massacre of 1940. The time will come for you - the Russians.
Maybe then we will remember the events 20 years earlier, when Poland attacked the USSR, taking advantage of its weakness and the civil war in the USSR? However, this is very typical for Poland - it has always attacked Russia only in this moments. In 1921, more than 15,000 Russian prisoners of war died in Polish concentration camps. And this is only according to Polish historians, Russian sources give numbers from 28 to 80 thousand. Or maybe you just don’t know about these historical events, in schools they only talk about Katyn?
And there are still many questions about the events in Katyn. For the first time, the discovery of mass graves in the Katyn Forest in 1943 was announced by the head of intelligence of the German Army Group Center, Rudolf-Christoph von Gersdorff. An international commission convened by Germany conducted an examination and concluded that the executions were carried out by the NKVD in the spring of 1940. Let me remind you that by 1943, the territory of Katyn had been under the occupation of Nazi Germany for two years already. Surprising, isn't it, especially considering that at the same time the Poles were shot from German weapons. No comments, just historical facts.
In the years 1919-1921 there was a war between the Bolsheviks and Poland. Poland and the Ukrainian army defended Europe against the creation of socialist republics in European countries. This war was, as usual, caused by the Russians. How is the Crimean Bridge Russians? You are losing! The time has come for you!
In the years 1919-1921 there was a war between the Bolsheviks and Poland. Poland and the Ukrainian army defended Europe against the creation of socialist republics in European countries. This war was, as usual, caused by the Russians. How is the Crimean Bridge Russians? You are losing! The time has come for you!
From 1918 to 1922, there was a civil war in Russia that claimed the lives of 10 to 17 million (!) People. The Russians killed themselves perfectly. Do you seriously think that, against this background, the Bolsheviks thought about creating socialist republics in European countries? Moreover, along with the civil war at the same time, from 1918 to 1921, almost all European countries, as well as the United States, Canada and even Australia, attacked Russia under the pretext of helping in the fight against the Bolsheviks. The total number of invading troops was more than 1 million people, the battles were going on throughout the territory of Russia. You consider the Russians brainwashed by propaganda, but meanwhile you yourself are talking nonsense that does not stand up to any criticism and contradicts the logic hammered into your heads by your government.
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You guys always forget that the past has nothing to do with this aggression war.
For Russia the war was lost the day they decided to attack the Ukraine openly.
The other out coming would be, that the entire world is lost.
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Last edited by Arkos (2022-10-08 23:48:27)
Strange that people discuss what their great(?) grandfathers did.
John Gult, just wondering, are you still living in Crimea?
There is no way to know what really happened in the past. Pointless
What I see from russians posts is that they are victims victims victimsss, it is almost like a battle cry how theyve been abused (not by their own government ofc)
Classic
John Gult, just wondering, are you still living in Crimea?
Yes, I am in Crimea. And everything is fine here. We have enough of everything - food, electricity, and gas.
Come visit to see for yourself. At the same time, you can survive this winter in warmth and comfort. :-)
The Crimean bridge is already working after the terrorist attack - trains run on it, cars drive, and a ferry crossing operates in parallel. One car part was destroyed. Ukrainians are amateurs - they blew up the car in the wrong place, and therefore the damage to the bridge is insignificant. Another confirmation that the Ukrainians are like a monkey with a grenade (the West gives them a grenade, and does not understand the danger of this). In the near future, the destroyed part will be restored.
It is a pity for the people who died during this terrorist attack - they were driving in a car next to the exploded truck. Once again, it became clear that Ukraine is a terrorist country.
“A people that does not know its past has no future” - these are the words of the brilliant Russian scientist Lomonosov, think about it.
You do not understand the essence and causes of the conflict in Ukraine because you do not know the past. Modern Ukraine is an artificial structure molded by the West out of murderers and hatred through the stupidity and ignorance of the people inhabiting Ukraine. The purpose of this artificial structure called "Ukraine" is to harm Russia. Therefore, Russia will destroy this structure in order to create a normal and adequate people out of it again. If the West interferes with the process of Ukraine's recovery, it will also suffer.
By the way - another brilliant man, our contemporary, also understands this. His name is Elon Musk, check his twitter if you have a chance.
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Да, я в Крыму. И здесь всё хорошо. У нас хватает всего - и продуктов, и электроэнергии, и газа.
Приезжай в гости, чтобы лично в этом убедиться. Заодно сможешь пережить эту зиму в тепле и комфорте. :-)
Крымский мост уже работает после теракта - по нему ходят поезда, ездят машины, параллельно работает паромная переправа. Разрушена одна автомобильная часть. Украинцы дилетанты - взорвали машину не в том месте, где нужно, и поэтому ущерб мосту незначителен. Очередное подтверждение тому, что Украинцы - как обезьяна с гранатой (гранату им Запад дает, и не понимает опасности этого). В ближайшее время разрушенную часть восстановят.
Жалко людей, которые погибли при этом теракте - они ехали в легковой машине рядом со взорвавшимся грузовиком. В очередной раз стало понятно, что Украина - страна-террорист.
«Народ, не знающий своего прошлого, не имеет будущего» - это слова гениального русского ученого Ломоносова, задумайтесь над этим.
Вы не понимаете сути и причин конфликта на Украине потому, что вы не знаете прошлого. Современная Украина - это искусственная конструкция, слепленная Западом из убийц и ненависти посредством глупости и необразованности людей, населяющих Украину. Цель этой искусственной конструкции под названием «Украина» - нанесение вреда России. Поэтому Россия разрушит эту конструкцию, чтобы из неё снова создать нормальный и адекватный народ. Если Запад будет мешать процессу оздоровления Украины - он так же пострадает.
Кстати - другой гениальный человек, наш современник, это тоже понимает. Его имя - Илон Маск, почитайте его твиттер при случае.
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You do not understand the essence and causes of the conflict in Ukraine because you do not know the past. Modern Ukraine is an artificial structure molded by the West out of murderers and hatred through the stupidity and ignorance of the people inhabiting Ukraine. The purpose of this artificial structure called "Ukraine" is to harm Russia. Therefore, Russia will destroy this structure in order to create a normal and adequate people out of it again. If the West interferes with the process of Ukraine's recovery, it will also suffer.
How is that possible when normal and adequate people don't come from russia, especially those who support war.
Anyone who has doubts can go and read his last full post
A few more months and then Crimea will be Ukrainian. Russia is weak. films with military mobilization show the chaos in the "Russian army".
aha? if it becomes true, then it will reach a point where RUS will be saying ' our soverignty is threatned, hence we will use nukes".
Only then US and EU ma..fakka leaders will be happy. These idiots are completely trigger events across globe.
If Russia uses the nuclear bomb, it will be the end of Russia. Already (as Russians) you are alienated.
It cannot be that a country invades another ... it annexes 4 voivodeships and believes that they are its own. After all, these referenda were fiction. A scam.
As long as Russia does not leave Ukraine, all NATO countries will help Ukraine. How many Russians are still to die? At this point, untrained reservists will be killed. Cannon fodder.
And Putin is an idiot, because he thought that he would get Ukraine in a few days ... Meanwhile, he did not win it, and everything indicates that he will lose the war! Thanks to Putin, at least we saw how weak Russia is. 2nd Army of the World? - lol
If Russia uses the nuclear bomb, it will be the end of Russia. Already (as Russians) you are alienated.
Im not Russian. Btw, its not full scale war yet. But its a major nuclear state and cant be underestimated. Im not supporting this war. In above post im just opining the possible outcome.
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aha? if it becomes true, then it will reach a point where RUS will be saying ' our soverignty is threatned, hence we will use nukes".
Only then US and EU ma..fakka leaders will be happy. These idiots are completely trigger events across globe.
But you are aware that game theory is a big part of decision making ?
Following your argument you would give in to basically anything just because Russia claims to be willing to use nukes.
It's Russias war to lose.
Perhaps you could even argue that both Russia and Ukraine are in a lose/lose situation.
However, for Ukraine it's about being able to have future "games", then you don't need care about nuke threats anymore.
If things go worse for Russia they too might need think about whether they can have future "games". This is what makes a nuke usage more likely. A nation, being scared of their neighbours, not able to use diplomacy, not able to a defeat a small neighbour, having internal conflicts and sitting on top of a huge arsenal of nukes. Go figure ...
Historical fact: the only country in the world to use nuclear weapons, and twice, is USA.
Insane wrote:Historical fact: the only country in the world to use nuclear weapons, and twice, is USA.
Can you post me more historical facts?
In the current state of threats from ruzzia, this will make as little sense as most of your posts.
It is desirable you would make it, as always, with same degree of Whataboutism.
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Whoever forgets the lessons of history is doomed to repeat them. (C) George Santayana
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Whoever forgets the lessons of history is doomed to repeat them. (C) George Santayana
Dima, are you not at the front yet? Maybe you will be soon and then I hope you will not forget the lesson that Ukraine will give you
Well, where are all those naive guys who laughed at my messages that Russia is not at war with Ukraine, but with nato?
No one is hiding this anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=200vL3UmP_o
Seceretary General of NATO Jens Stoltenberg.
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Arghh!
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Now the artificial pumping of Western media information about Russian nuclear strikes on Ukraine is frightening.
It is possible that the Americans will bring and detonate their own nuclear weapons on the territory of Ukraine, and blame Russia for this.
And any idiot understands that this is nonsense, because it makes no sense. But unfortunately, in the information war, the Americans are the strongest now.
Typical methods of US propaganda that served as a pretext for the start of hostilities against independent states and led to hundreds of thousands (according to some reports, more than a million) victims. I wonder how many sanctions democratic Europe has imposed against the United States after such a monstrous lie?
Well, where are all those naive guys who laughed at my messages that Russia is not at war with Ukraine, but with nato?
No one is hiding this anymore.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=200vL3UmP_o
Seceretary General of NATO Jens Stoltenberg.
What? Russia in war? wasnt it a " special military operation"?
About that video, i hear "all of us"and " us " ? you really hear "Nato" ?
No no, they nicely and honorably started a special military operation in ukraine with sincerety and honesty, to make the world a better place. But those disgusting nato countries decided to help ukraine and it is all their fault now that they have to name it war
What? Russia in war? wasnt it a " special military operation"?
It still remains a special operation. If you don't see the difference between a full-scale war and a special operation, then I have some sad news for you.
all of us"and " us " ? you really hear "Nato" ?
you really do not catch the relationship between the word "we" and the speech of NATO Secretary General at the NATO summit?
lol
Or do you think by "we" he meant himself and his wife?
Maasika wrote:What? Russia in war? wasnt it a " special military operation"?
It still remains a special operation. If you don't see the difference between a full-scale war and a special operation, then I have some sad news for you.
war
/wɔː/
noun
a state of armed conflict between different countries or different groups within a country.
I see no scaling. In what numbers the name changes in Russia?
BTW how come Chechen war was a war not another special ops.? Or is it a war in your history books?