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persia

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Many years later the truth will start surfacing

The most important reason is obvious even to fools - protection of the integrity of the Russian Federation, resistance to NATO expansion (approaching the borders), in order to suppress military, political and economic influence Russia in the world. Is it so difficult for you to understand that it will take you decades to wait for it? And who will be the authority that you will believe?

The struggle for natural resources through such a huge risk and strong pressure from other countries is just an incredibly stupid version.
Resources + resort areas are just a nice bonus.

I will repeat 100500 times, learn materiel. Everything is in the public domain on both sides.

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Many years later the truth will start surfacing

The most important reason is obvious even to fools - protection of the integrity of the Russian Federation, resistance to NATO expansion (approaching the borders), in order to suppress military, political and economic influence Russia in the world. Is it so difficult for you to understand that it will take you decades to wait for it? And who will be the authority that you will believe?

The struggle for natural resources through such a huge risk and strong pressure from other countries is just an incredibly stupid version.
Resources + resort areas are just a nice bonus.

I will repeat 100500 times, learn materiel. Everything is in the public domain on both sides.

What if your theory was wrong? Can you consider that your Russia is lying to you by saying that NATO wanted to attack Russia? From July 2021, Russian troops gathered at the border with Ukraine. It was Russia that invaded Ukraine for no reason! Ukraine no longer wanted to cooperate with Russia. See what is the economic and economic difference between Poland and Ukraine since 1990. Poland is in the European Union. We have everything, and Ukraine has nothing, because it has cooperated with Russia. Young people from Ukraine did not want to cooperate with Russia anymore. They wanted to develop, not stand still. What can Russia give Ukraine? NOTHING ... Cheap gas and that's it.
Your government had to explain to you somehow the attack on Ukraine, so they said it was protecting Russia - nonsense. Hitler explained the attack on Poland in 1939 in the same way, that Poland supposedly threatened Germany.

Putin thought that if he conquered Ukraine (in a few days), Ukraine would not be able to go towards Europe. But he did not take into account that NATO would send military equipment to Ukraine and that the Ukrainians would defend themselves so fantastically. Russia wanted to show how strong it is, and it showed how weak it is. Currently, apart from Belarus, nobody wants to cooperate with Russia anymore.

Even in September, your propaganda had a problem admitting defeat in the Kharkiv direction. At first it was explained as "regrouping", but after a while they finally told the truth - Russia started to lose. And Putin mobilized, because losing would mean the end of his power. People in Belarus also want to develop and if the Lukashenka government collapses (so far supported by Russia), Belarus will also move towards development - that is, the European direction. Democracy, development.
The Russians do not know what democracy is, so your government can tell you everything.

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An example of Russian propaganda: "Russia claims that just over 5,000 Russian soldiers have died"
If 5,000 died on the Russian side, what would mobilization be for?
About 60,000 Russian soldiers were killed + another 100,000 were injured.

Putin's logic:
"The highest priority for me is to protect the life and health of the citizens of the Russian Federation. Therefore, more than a million of my citizens, who have no experience with weapons or military qualifications, will be sent to the front against professional Ukrainian soldiers who even an experienced army could not cope with." Genius.

All this madman can do is use the atomic bomb when mobilized they will fail, but then the United States will respond very strongly

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persia

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What if your theory was wrong? Can you consider that your Russia is lying to you by saying that NATO wanted to attack Russia?

I don't need to listen to the news to understand the obvious things.
nato positioned himself as a defensive alliance against the USSR.
However, after the collapse of the USSR, it did not cease to exist. Moreover, open the map and see how it has been expanding with military bases over the past 30 years.
Or did I make it all up and they don't exist?
By the way, your beloved Putin publicly asked Clinton to accept Russia into NATO. Of course he was refused. He asked this specifically so that even any fool would understand that it is necessary and there is a military alliance against Russia.
Is Operation Unthinkable also propaganda?
Is the invasion of Iraq for the purpose of free oil production also propaganda?
Attempts to suppress China economically are also my propaganda?
Now, the introduction of sanctions against Russia (European puppets of the United States) destroying their own production, in order to transfer capital from Europe to the United States (from the euro to the dollar) is it also my fantasy?
I will write about the accident on the Nord Stream in the next message, but there is also probably stupid Russian propaganda.

If 5,000 died on the Russian side, what would mobilization be for?

I have already written above, the borders of the Russian Federation have increased by 1300 km, in order to go further on the offensive, it is necessary to protect the existing one.
I am even silent about how our army attacked, having a number several times smaller than the enemy.

We have everything, and Ukraine has nothing, because it has cooperated with Russia.

Funny
I'll tell you a secret, my little boy
there has been a pro-American government in Ukraine since 2004. Now your message takes on a completely different color
Moreover, Ukraine wanted to join the EU, and your politicians also participated in this. European industries do not need a competitor in the form of manufacturing giants of Ukraine. Therefore, a lot of production facilities were specially destroyed (as it was done in the 90s in Russia).
There is such a thing as "quotas". You can read it, but I think it will be very difficult for you.

Putin thought that if he conquered Ukraine (in a few days)

actually, the plan was to seize Ukraine in 5-6 minutes, Putin himself said so.

But he did not take into account that NATO would send military equipment to Ukraine and that the Ukrainians would defend themselves so fantastically.

Did Putin not expect NATO to supply weapons? ahahahahahha
ye ye, just an ordinary grandfather sits and does not fucking understand what is happening in the world, and he is also the former head of the KGB. Just a fool, ye ye
God, thank you for making me laugh so much
And yes, they defend just fantastically. Therefore, more than 2 thousand people surrendered from one plant, from another 1 thousand
Well, the last counteroffensive claimed the lives of more than 4 thousand people in a couple of days. Great move.
There have already been 5 waves of mobilization in Ukraine, do you understand what this means? Think about it for once.

from what you write, there is a picture of wild absurdity in the form of a saucepan, which is filled to the brim with the most untruthful propaganda and slogans.
I hope you're just trolling, a person can't not think with his head so much.

persia

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https://twitter.com/abc/status/14907924 … z_l8sON0RA

How the "streams" were killed

Back on September 2, American helicopters were winding circles around the lines of the northern streams near the Danish island of Bornholm. The next time the activity was recorded on 13.09.

The side numbers showed that it was a heavy Naval Night Hawk. They dropped underwater drones, which subsequently successfully blew up the pipes.

In June, it was in this area that the US 6th Fleet conducted exercises on the use of drones for underwater "mine clearance".

Specialists from all military "backyard centers" of the USA were gathered for the exercises.

The exercises were successful, and so was the operation.

▼screens

it is very similar to what I wrote above about the destruction of production and the economy of Europe, by the hands of the US.

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The 2030 agenda being realized step by step. Yes, the U.S is behind the sabotage of nord stream. And russia is not fighting aginst it, it is co-operating towards the same goals: sustainable development, technocratic control. Breakdown of the current system.
Some very wealthy individuals vs people who try to make a living and get by. Not east vs west. And for that simple reason you can forget about total nuclear fallout; it is not going to happen. The people who orchestrate theese events will never let that happen

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Man ... You keep writing for the United States. Has the United States attacked Ukraine? Has the United States created a pseudo-referendum on looted lands? Has the United States massacred the civilian population in Bucha and Izium?
NATO was created as a counterweight to the USSR, but after the collapse of the USSR, Russia remained, which as it turns out, still has imperialist ambitions. In the 1990s, Russia attacked Chechnya, and in 2008, Russia attacked Georgia. In 2014, Russia annexed Crimea. This is not a normal country ... Russia still wants to fight everyone and show how strong it is. Your eyes will open when China attacks Russia. You see your ally in China, but they are already getting ready for you. Russia does not see the enemy where it should see. China will destroy you in a few years.

persia

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Is everyone like rinjo in Poland?

And on the same day:
Poland has officially opened the Baltic Pipe pipeline to import gas from Norway
https://biz.liga.net/all/tek/novosti/po … Gaz-System

What a wonderful coincidence of the damned Russian propaganda!

persia

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Man ... You keep writing for the United States. Has the United States attacked Ukraine? Has the United States created a pseudo-referendum on looted lands? Has the United States massacred the civilian population in Bucha and Izium?
NATO was created as a counterweight to the USSR, but after the collapse of the USSR, Russia remained, which as it turns out, still has imperialist ambitions. In the 1990s, Russia attacked Chechnya, and in 2008, Russia attacked Georgia. In 2014, Russia annexed Crimea. This is not a normal country ... Russia still wants to fight everyone and show how strong it is. Your eyes will open when China attacks Russia. You see your ally in China, but they are already getting ready for you. Russia does not see the enemy where it should see. China will destroy you in a few years.

That's what happens when yesterday's schoolboy decided to jump into the topic of politics - solid loud headlines and nothing to the point. What's up with my listed propaganda? lies?

Finally, I will ask your extremely important and filled with the highest analysis opinion about this news:

The G7 has reached an agreement in principle to limit oil prices from Russia for third countries.

simon

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Julian Assange for you..
https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a … 0svav1.mp4

"U.S pulls out of Afghanistan after 20 years, 5 months later any and all negotiation between Ukraine and Russia fell apart
(wherein Ukraine refused to talk directly to Russia, preferring to listen to U.S advisors.. and instead France and Germany tried to negotiate with both)
Russia invades 6 months after U.S leaves Afghanistan, and U.S becomes Ukraine's main sponsor."

How much money has Ukr received from the U.S again? I mean, there are some very obvious connections and patters you can't ignore.
That doesn't mean I am pro russian now, not at all. Bottom line is, the ''regular'' people suffer.

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EU is a crumbling tower btw. Its the same old story about power corrupts etc. I hear more and more voices against it as time goes by.

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and europe gets fucked anyway

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https://twitter.com/abc/status/14907924 … z_l8sON0RA

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/offi … 207733.htm

I wonder if NATO is going to take into account the statement of the USA president about his intention to destroy the critical infrastructure of a NATO member state?

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They don't care about NATO members. Turkey is also provoking Greece on the sea and both are in NATO. Greece has a lot of oil under the sea btw., maybe that is the reason the provokation. No idea why they didn't pump it out yet. Probably USA doesn't want it because they want to sell their fracking oil which is awful for the environment.

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and europe gets fucked anyway

Germany negotiates with morally superior countries like Saudi A., Azerbajdzan and United Emirates to get clean oil... lol

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from 1984

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You get excited about Europe, but we can do it. Russia can't do it. Another victories of Ukraine in the war <3 Several thousand Russian troops were encircled in Lyman.

Here is a video of a Russian who asks other Russians about "Russians' war losses in the war". The last guy - explained perfectly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YarNZ5YKNU

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You get excited about Europe, but we can do it. Russia can't do it. Another victories of Ukraine in the war <3 Several thousand Russian troops were encircled in Lyman.

Here is a video of a Russian who asks other Russians about "Russians' war losses in the war". The last guy - explained perfectly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YarNZ5YKNU

you still haven't answered my simple last question.

Ukraine really recaptured part of the settlements, but at the cost of what losses?
btw, tell me how many people were mobilized in Ukraine?

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There is no forced mobilization in Ukraine as in Russia. People defend their homeland. Many people joined the army themselves. If necessary, all Ukrainians will defend themselves against the barbaric attack by Russia. Russia mobilizes people because Putin wants to win the war by force, but is unable to win. Mobilized, they will die very quickly at the front

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There is no forced mobilization in Ukraine as in Russia. People defend their homeland. Many people joined the army themselves. If necessary, all Ukrainians will defend themselves against the barbaric attack by Russia. Russia mobilizes people because Putin wants to win the war by force, but is unable to win. Mobilized, they will die very quickly at the front

The first wave included former servicemen under the age of 40, who have combat experience and served in the army, former participants of the ATO. In addition, on April 8, the Rada adopted a law that obliged all conscripts who were abroad to be mobilized to return to Ukraine within 15 days. Otherwise, men face up to 10 years in a strict regime colony.

Those wishing to leave managed to do so only in the first days of the conflict. After the mobilization was announced, at the request of Zelinsky, the exit was closed to all men from 18 to 60 years old.

Since September 14, the departure of categories for which exceptions were provided has also been banned.

In addition to the traditional methods of handing out summonses at the address of residence and place of work, in Ukraine, summonses are handed at checkpoints, gas stations, on the street, and sometimes employees organize raids on nightclubs or beaches.

I think you're wearing a saucepan on your head instead of a hat

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Understand that the Ukrainians' motivation to win is huge. Your country - Russia attacked Ukraine in the same way as Nazi Germany attacked Poland in 1939. The Nazis also believed that Poles should not constitute the Nation, that Poles were like "lice". Russia does the same, and therefore, just like Nazi Germany, Russia will lose this war. There was also mobilization in Poland in 1939 when Nazi Germany attacked us. It is normal that the Ukrainians want to defend themselves. And they do it very effectively. "Greater Russia is very weak". In a few years, the Chinese will finish off the Siberian bear and Russia will fall apart!

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Understand that the Ukrainians' motivation to win is huge. Your country - Russia attacked Ukraine in the same way as Nazi Germany attacked Poland in 1939. The Nazis also believed that Poles should not constitute the Nation, that Poles were like "lice". Russia does the same, and therefore, just like Nazi Germany, Russia will lose this war. There was also mobilization in Poland in 1939 when Nazi Germany attacked us. It is normal that the Ukrainians want to defend themselves. And they do it very effectively. "Greater Russia is very weak". In a few years, the Chinese will finish off the Siberian bear and Russia will fall apart!

Does pan love history so much ? Then maybe he will remember the events a little earlier than 1939, namely the Sudeten crisis of 1938, when Poland, together with Germany, attacked Czechoslovakia and took part of its territory.And a little earlier, when the Munich agreement was concluded and according to which Poland was going to fight on the side of Nazi Germany. And this is not Soviet and Putin propaganda, the information is freely available in Western sources. For example, in wikipedia, or in more serious sources.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement
https/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudeten_crisis

Quote from the speech of the Polish ambassador in Paris Lukasiewicz to the US Ambassador: "A religious war is beginning between fascism and Bolshevism, and if the Soviet Union provides assistance to Czechoslovakia, Poland is ready for war with the USSR shoulder to shoulder with Germany." Poland, according to its long-standing habit, wanted to join the winners, but as always, it was the wrong side)
The words from the same speech of the Polish ambassador in 1938: "The Polish government is confident that within three months the Russian troops will be completely defeated and Russia will no longer represent even a semblance of a state". It reminds someone, doesn't it?)

"Greater Russia is very weak". In a few years, the Chinese will finish off the Siberian bear and Russia will fall apart!

By the way, these wet fantasies of Poles about the end of Russia are more than 400 years old)

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I almost forgot, a special picture for a great friend of Russia from Poland. It accurately displays historical events )

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you better read about the Katyn massacre of 1940. The time will come for you - the Russians.

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Dima and Persia ?

https://youtu.be/f8L6b8y4s74

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If STALKER 2 gets cancelled I'm nuking Russia myself.

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The mockery of Ukrainians towards Russian troops + mercenaries with regards to food rations within the frontlines!

Also my blood sugar: "I don't feel so good... "
https://twitter.com/SlavaUk30722777/sta … 4706345984

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Ukraine shouldnt gave up nuke weapon, so many good peps would stay alive..
All the agreements with russians worth nothing, this is a historical fact now.

Remember me trying to talk to you and the russians back in 2014-15?
It took you a while to understand they're not brothers but liars. Better later than never.
To all russians without an exception, to the active and passive supporters of z-nazism and для остальных терпил:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Xu0ABsd5Y

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