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Kestrel

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¿Banned for traveling with car in enemy main base?

Who banned me? I know the rules. It is forbidden to kill in enemy main base, not to travel with car. I didn't kill anyone in enemy main base.

- My player name: WWII Was Won By SSSR
- Date and time you were banned. Now in Berlin map.
- Server name SIMPLE

simon

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Re: ¿Banned for traveling with car in enemy main base?

Perhaps because of that dumb nickname of yours

Kestrel

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Re: ¿Banned for traveling with car in enemy main base?

What a admins, ban and then hide. Couldn't they show their faces and explain why they kick someone out? If this server is going to turn into a copy of _=[aX]=_ where they banned you for no reason and didn't give any explanations, then it's going to end up just like that. In fact, the server _=[aX]=_ is dead and its administrators may be here now. I always respect the rules and everyone and I've been playing in SIMPLE for many years. What's next, ban me forever for no reason?

Perhaps because of that dumb nickname of yours

Are you one of those offendedy ones who get offended by everything? It's not my fault that you're indoctrinated by Hollywood.

Sunshine

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Re: ¿Banned for traveling with car in enemy main base?

Doesn't look like you are in the ban list anymore.

And yes, you will be kicked/banned for driving into the main base. Admins have been kicking/banning for that for a long time.

bud

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Re: ¿Banned for traveling with car in enemy main base?

And yes, you will be kicked/banned for driving into the main base. Admins have been kicking/banning for that for a long time.

i could need some clarifying on this, i know it is forbidden to use vehicles as taxis. but driving a car in enemys base shouldnt be the same as long as he doesnt attack anything?

Sunshine

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Re: ¿Banned for traveling with car in enemy main base?

Besides the numerous times where they're running over people or into vehicles, there's also issues where enemy vehicles blow up and get bugged on airfields.

(Simple example is Igor doing it then saying he's just "driving through")

Why are they going into the main anyway?

Last edited by Sunshine (2022-05-02 04:03:21)

bud

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Re: ¿Banned for traveling with car in enemy main base?

propably to clowning around is my guess. Russ fixed the bug with the wrecked vehicles, but tuia rolled back the patch files once because of "reasons" and i dont know if he have implemented that specific bug fix after that.

Sunshine

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Re: ¿Banned for traveling with car in enemy main base?

propably to clowning around is my guess. Russ fixed the bug with the wrecked vehicles, but tuia rolled back the patch files once because of "reasons" and i dont know if he have implemented that specific bug fix after that.

Either way, clarification from head admins would probably be for the best. I'd feel like a bitch for kicking the guy today if it's going to be allowed lol.

bud

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Re: ¿Banned for traveling with car in enemy main base?

my thought was more like if i somehow would end up near enemys base, if i then could steal a car and try for a quick getaway.

Kestrel

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Re: ¿Banned for traveling with car in enemy main base?

Besides the numerous times where they're running over people or into vehicles, there's also issues where enemy vehicles blow up and get bugged on airfields.

(Simple example is Igor doing it then saying he's just "driving through")

Why are they going into the main anyway?

You are assuming things that have not happened. If I go to the enemy base and dedicate myself to stealing anemy vehicles, disturbing or killing enemies, then you have to ban me. But it was not my case.  I was driving from north to south and I saw a bazooka player in the distance and so that he wouldn't see me I turned right and went through the enemy base, but I didn't shoot or run over anyone and it was another bazooka player that was in the main base who kill me. My objective was to get to the southeast base from behind and attack without being seen by those who was attacking towards the north flag.

I have played for many years and I never be banned for circling the enemy base. In fact, there are maps like Stalingrad where it is a good tactic to cross the German enemy base to capture flags by entering behind the enemy front or to destroy the active enemy tank that is keeping a defensive attitude in its base or when it has returned to it to repair it. The same goes for maps where there are planes, as you can go for example with the kettenkrad and shoot a player who returned to his base to repair his plane and also to kill an active player like a scout or a that is in an AA. The rules are clear, it is forbidden to kill enemies, steal vehicles or hinder the game in uncaptuable enemy bases, except for active players. Circulating is allowed as long as you don't break the rules. If Igor or whoever goes to an uncapturable enemy base and disturbs the game, then there is a reason to ban him, but you can't kick someone just for circling, although you can attack him of course but not ban, kick or kill him typing a command.

Last edited by Kestrel (2022-05-02 14:27:52)

Anna Nym

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Re: ¿Banned for traveling with car in enemy main base?

that's a lot of beating around the bush again.

There is no vehicle and no flag to capture in the enemy base.
There is no reason to drive in - through or whatever - some bases already have a deathbuble anyway.
If you walk along the river with a fishing rod (just the rod in your luggage) and without a fishing license, you will be charged with a crime, because it will be assumed that you want to fish and that you are a poacher.
Let that work on you without immediately screaming for FREEDOM OF THOUGHT and OPINION again.

Cactus

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Re: ¿Banned for traveling with car in enemy main base?

Vamos kestrel, es muy básico, no tienes ningún motivo para cruzar por ahí. Das a entender que vas a atacar y nos obligas a los admins a estar controlando jugadores como tu a ver si están solo de paso o liandola. Si tienes esa necesidad imperiosa de cruzar por la base incapturable te recomiendo que lo hagas en moon o ax, aquí son más estrictos.
Salud

Kestrel

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Re: ¿Banned for traveling with car in enemy main base?

that's a lot of beating around the bush again.

There is no vehicle and no flag to capture in the enemy base.
There is no reason to drive in - through or whatever - some bases already have a deathbuble anyway.
If you walk along the river with a fishing rod (just the rod in your luggage) and without a fishing license, you will be charged with a crime, because it will be assumed that you want to fish and that you are a poacher.

The example you have given is wrong and lacks logic. First of all, because if I go around with a fishing rod and without a fishing license, I cannot be charged with a crime. I would only be charged if, at that moment, I have a basket with dead fish in it, that is, if it is proven that I have fished or, more strictly speaking, if a police officer sees me fishing. Anyway, I do not know how the laws work in Germany or, at least, those that didn't have to do with the Third Reich. The second because in the same way that there are laws that prohibit fishing without a license, there are also rules (laws) of the server about what is allowed to do and not do in the game, and in these it is clearly established that the base can be attacked enemy to kill active players. Your same reasoning could be applied to planes, what is an plane doing in the enemy base? Well, precisely because it is allowed to attack AAs, scouts and active tanks. The vehicle used is the least important and as long as you do not violate the rules of the game that are stipulated, that is, as long as you do not attack planes that are taking off, players that are walking, do not crash into other vehicles, etc. You can enter the enemy base and attack active enemies, or, at least, until that ambiguous rule is not changed, I understand that with the consensus of all or a majority. For example, I enter the enemy base with the APC or the kettenkrad and I find a Waspe tank attacking, can't I strafe it or blow it up with explosives? I understand that yes. The rules are ambiguous and it would be best to change them if that is not correct, instead of making an interpretation that depends on the state of mind of an administrator who, in addition and perhaps, does not like a nickname or is offended by it. I repeat that I don't see anything wrong with circulating around the enemy base without affecting anyone and if you use it to go to another part of the map or to attack active enemies, because no established and written rule prohibits it.

Let that work on you without immediately screaming for FREEDOM OF THOUGHT and OPINION again.

I don't understand what you mean by that or where you get that absurd interpretation from my words. Were you the one who banned me or are you offended by something I said?

Kestrel

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Re: ¿Banned for traveling with car in enemy main base?

Vamos kestrel, es muy básico, no tienes ningún motivo para cruzar por ahí. Das a entender que vas a atacar y nos obligas a los admins a estar controlando jugadores como tu a ver si están solo de paso o liandola. Si tienes esa necesidad imperiosa de cruzar por la base incapturable te recomiendo que lo hagas en moon o ax, aquí son más estrictos.
Salud

Ese mismo argumento se podría emplear con los aviones. Cuando hay un ataque en base enemiga se reporta, como se hace siempre que un administrador no está atento, sea de un vehículo terrestre, un scout, un barco, un avión o un tanque de artillería desde lo lejos. Por tanto, no es excusa lo de estar o no atento. Cambien las normas para que no haya ambiguedades, es lo que deben de hacer y, repito, que en mi opinión no tendría que estar probido atacar a jugadores o vehículos activos que están en la base enemiga, sea con el vehículo que sea o yendo a pie (por ejemplo un scout que mata a un jugador que está en el AA dentro de la base no capturable).

Vietnamese

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Re: ¿Banned for traveling with car in enemy main base?

As an ordinary player my opinion for this sh*t is: You should not pass through the enemy base in Berlin. It's not important if you kill someone or not. You just can't be there. Period.

And i agree, WWII was won by SSSR...