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As we can clearly see, COVID is over in Palestine. big_smile

+ 222 infected in Palestine today, 3609 deaths overall. Palestine population is only 5.2 million people, so what's wrong? Also, I'm not sure their authorities can provide the correct numbers.

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#812 2021-08-03 19:32:07

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seventy wrote:

As we can clearly see, COVID is over in Palestine. big_smile

+ 222 infected in Palestine today, 3609 deaths overall. Palestine population is only 5.2 million people, so what's wrong? Also, I'm not sure their authorities can provide the correct numbers.

NANI?!!

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#813 2021-08-03 20:44:55

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HoOK wrote:
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seventy wrote:

As we can clearly see, COVID is over in Palestine. big_smile

+ 222 infected in Palestine today, 3609 deaths overall. Palestine population is only 5.2 million people, so what's wrong? Also, I'm not sure their authorities can provide the correct numbers.

NANI?!!

These are the stats about Palestine we're getting here.

317 083 total, +222 infected on 2nd of August, 312 149 recovered, 3 609 died.

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#814 2021-08-07 22:24:59

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#815 2021-08-22 19:18:59

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hmmm how strange.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-gzm_sOM0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0vZMvMqvHg

https://www.military.com/daily-news/202 … trick.html

i am not saying covid started in usa

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#816 2021-08-22 19:51:32

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An illness sweeping through an assisted living facility making many old people with medical problems sick and killing 3 is not strange.

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#817 2021-08-22 19:59:04

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ja, how about the shut down of a military virus lab not far away? happens all the time?

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#818 2021-08-22 21:26:18

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Fort Detrick's lab has temp closed in the past. This specific time was due to issues with the wastewater decontamination system. Though, I'm sure you can suspect it was for some other reason.

That assisted living facility is over an hour away. Plus, if it was COVID or anything else there'd be a lot more than 3 deaths in that facility.

That connection between the assisted living facility and a biolab is some tinfoil hat kind of stuff.

If you want to look into something, look into the missing anthrax and ebola specimens from Fort Detrick. That's more interesting than old sick people dying from respiratory illnesses in a facility for old sick people.

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#819 2021-08-22 21:53:13

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you should stop using the term tinfoil hat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_su … techniques
all is theories until proven.
possible link between retirement home and the lab.. lab workers have grandparents?
wastewater decontamination system.. if they had a problem with it, could it be.. the source of the leak?


but i have a question. you probably know more than me about this. in the start most americans got infected with covid strain a. and china got infected with strain b. is it not that strain b mutated from strain a?

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#820 2021-08-22 21:59:47

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Yup. You're right. It came right from that lab and someone brought it to grandma. Why didn't I think of that. Damn.

And FYI, they found what swept through the facility. It was Haemophilus influenzae and rhinovirus.

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#821 2021-08-22 22:10:24

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Testing of specimens collected during the outbreak of respiratory illness at Greenspring in July 2019 showed several bacteria, including Haemophilus influenzae (H. flu) and rhinovirus, the cause of the common cold. There is no need to re-investigate the outbreak.

yes yes. move along nothing to see here. no need to test for covid
lol

if you don't look you wont find

must have been one hell of a strain of common cold to hospitalize so many

https://youtu.be/GM-gzm_sOM0?t=44

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#822 2021-08-22 23:09:13

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Haemophilus influenzae is not a strain of the common cold. Not even close.

Common cold is a rhinovirus, but there's also more than 150 types of rhinovirus.. some can be quite bad (polio, which this was obviously not). But even the common cold can kill people who are severely immunocompromised.

Rhinovirus is going to be in any facility with a lot of people. It's the H flu that was probably the biggest problem. The common cold sure as hell doesn't help the people in those facilities though

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#823 2021-08-22 23:13:22

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ok but what about in the start most americans got infected with covid strain a. and china got infected with strain b. is it not that strain b mutated from strain a?

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A variant (in the US) is believed to have come from England.

The original strains were the L and S

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#825 2021-08-22 23:46:36

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how do you name the strains? chronologically after mutations? just so confused. greek alphabet? pls halp

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#826 2021-08-23 00:35:13

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The naming comes from a system they use to identify the genetic lineages. There's over 1200 lineages for covid and there finding more all the time.

They mutate to a primary like to B 1 and then there'll be mutations where you'll see something like E484K.

They just went to the Greek alphabet to help avoid confusion. Easier to say "Delta variant" instead of "B 1.617.2."

Also note 2 different nomenclatures. The currently widely used naming system was created specifically for covid. Before it was different, that's where you get the L, S, GH, GR, O, etc.

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#827 2021-08-23 01:20:06

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great explanation with the naming. wtf why the hell make a new way of naming virus strains.

ok i got one more for you. but this is a big one. is all this also tinfoil hat stuff?
i dont expect you to read it all. found this on reddit /conspiracy

main points

    the spike protein appears to be cytotoxic.

    the emergence of immune escape variants.

    the potential for antibody dependent enhancement.

    the potential for autoimmune disorders.

    the narrow design focus of the vaccines.

    the fact that alternative treatments are available to both prevent and treat covid.

    they are trying to jab everyone, even people who have recovered from covid and do not need the jab.

    there are a growing number of severe reactions to the vaccines but this fact gets very little coverage in the press and sometimes it even gets outright censorship.

    the potential for long term unknown side effects and the potential impact of this on national security.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/com … ance_w_50/


my biggest problem with this is there is no public discussions and debate about this stuff. most of media now is just ctrl+c ctrl+v

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I had a conversation about the vaccine with someone in PM. This is what I said:

Here's my take... A lot of people are fearful of the vaccines because of scary side-effects including some deaths. Personal example.. justa short time after I got the J&J vaccine, it was paused and women of childbearing age were told not to get it due to causing a rare blood clot disorder (AstraZeneca in Canada had same problem). Sounds terrifying, but statistically relatively insignificant as awful as that sounds. People will have side effects and there will be people who will die after taking vaccines and not just COVID vaccines. The bad cases are always highlighted and it scares people. Especially when these are technically "experimental" vaccines since they're not offcially approved by FDA.

I understand why people question/fear it. I'm not anti-vax obviously, but I'm not into shitting on people who choose not to get it.  A lot of stuff is getting political and it seems like many are encouraging to shame those who freely choose not to get it.

In terms of alternative stuff to help prevent severe covid, my doctor says Vitamin D, zinc, and quercetin.

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i just dont know what to believe but with this media hype and all censoring happening i just feel there is something off.
vitamine d i get from real butter. quercetin i get from my green jasmine tea. i got some zinc adenoids for my boat i can stick up my butt. /s

u know what they say. better not have all eggs in same basket
just hope this is not a big depopulation project. wow imagine getting the world populated by mostly crazy karens
it just dont make sense to use antibac as alkohol against a virus...

i am not anti wax. but mrna can go to hell. give me normal virus vector old school stuff

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Media cares about ratings. That's it. They'll parrot whatever is right in their eyes to get the ratings, access, etc. at the time and attack anyone who disagree with them.

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Jorgen the only reason you got this far up to this point is you are far more remote, rural with far less travelers coming in to such a place, if you become exposed, believe me, you'll wish you'd have gotten the vaccine

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i did not wanted to be vaccinated but i had no other choice, if i had refused to do it i would have lost my job.

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we had a small outbreak in a small village 13 infected out of 70. this village is nice drive away 1 hour. when this outbreak was we had to were mask in the shop. but my location is probably the best during a pandemic. hey i got 2 guest rooms. first come first serve.
remember some news about heroine addicts not getting covid. hmm sounds like a bad idea.
they are ready to inject 3. dose calling it booster. what a shit storm. how many injections does it take? rabies vaccine is 3 doses but then it will last you for a long time
i am just waiting for the inactivated virus vaccine. will take it gladly.
zwarrior, did you freeze some sperm?

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No i did not.

What i am trying to say is, we are told that we can take a choice whether to be vaccinated or not. That is not true, because if someone goes to his/her boss right now and tells them "Hey you know what? I dont feel like getting vaccinated ", the very next day there will be another person doing what was your job.

Right now if you want to travel somewhere you need to be vaccinated.

In my country there are some places that requires you to be vaccinated in order to put a step in.

We live in a world where in most of the countries if you:

-Steal something, you pay for it.

- Kill a person, you pay for it.

-Become a serial killer, you pay for it

-a lab located somewhere in China releases by accident a virus killing millions of people around the world and also change the whole mankind way of doing things, they (goverment) dont pay for it.

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It's not Chinas fault, Dude, nor does it come from a LAB.

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Arkos wrote:

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It's not Chinas fault, Dude, nor does it come from a LAB.

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Its good to know the truth smile

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Arkos. how can you say with certainty it is not from a lab? accidental releases have happened before, and we all know history repeat itself. i'm not saying it comes from a lab but i'm also not saying it does not come from a lab.
they are still looking for the smoking bat.

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Just take it as what it is.

A Flu or Sickness or Corona... as you wish.

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what do you think would happen if a country admits it came from one of their labs? they would be in debt to the whole world. it would ruin their economy.
and it coming from a lab would justify the intense lock downs that happened in china in the beginning.

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jorgen wrote:

what do you think would happen if a country admits it came from one of their labs? they would be in debt to the whole world. it would ruin their economy.
and it coming from a lab would justify the intense lock downs that happened in china in the beginning.

Nah wouldn't change anything. If it comes from China no one would say anything to them other than put in a few sanctions. If it came from the US (which it kinda did, thanks Mr faucci) they're already killing kids in Yemen etc and no one says anything.

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