SiMPLE | Forum

Professor_Smith

Player

Reputation: +4

Location: Denver, CO

Registered: 2014-12-06

Posts: 30

Hate

Pardon me Folks,
     I wasn't exactly sure which topic to post this question in. I was just wondering why the server creators/admins, allow all these players to play, that's simply use the server as their own personal hate box/arena.  Many times while playing on your servers, I have observed players constantly raging and spewing their hateful words, ORD people of various other races and religions. Are the creators/admins of these servers, also just as hateful as the players that let these hateful words come out of their mouth??
     I even heard is that there were a bunch of Nazis (well, Nazi wannabe's anyway, since the Allies kicked their ass & their "great leader", chickened out & shot himself, in World War II), running around in these servers.
     I understand that you folks don't want to lose players, but at the same time I would think that you'd be scaring away more of the good and worthwhile players, by allowing these disgustingly hateful people, to bully other players, and take over your servers.

     I mean, aren't there rules and policies set up for your servers that talk against people bad-mouthing one another, and creating anti social issues?

     Can someone please shed some light on this for me?

Thank You,

Joshua
Professor_Smith

Stinky McGhee

Player

Reputation: +13

Location: Illinois

Registered: 2020-02-02

Posts: 12

Re: Hate

This post has to be a joke. lol.

jorgen

fishing

Reputation: +601

Location: sub arctic

Registered: 2019-11-03

Posts: 1,035

Website

Re: Hate

when did this happen? and on what server? i can go and look for it in the logs.

Professor_Smith

Player

Reputation: +4

Location: Denver, CO

Registered: 2014-12-06

Posts: 30

Re: Hate

No, the post is not a joke. As for when it specifically happened, how about every single time I have ever been on the server, or almost every time everyone else has been on the server. Why don't you make a poll to see how many times this has happened to everyone on your servers? This is one of the reasons I have stopped visiting your servers. I even had a player respond to my post privately, most likely because they were afraid of the hateful people starting something with them over the Forum. If you have to ask me when this happened, you obviously don't pay enough attention to the servers, and the goings-on.

Arkos

Sedmin

Reputation: +2783

Registered: 2014-06-06

Posts: 7,048

Re: Hate

...

It would be easyer if you tell us the time span.

Like this some admins can take a look into the log.

...

Last edited by Arkos (2020-03-08 02:25:00)

Professor_Smith

Player

Reputation: +4

Location: Denver, CO

Registered: 2014-12-06

Posts: 30

Re: Hate

I really can't tell you. Its been a while for me personally. I've just been hearing things from some other bf1942 player friends of mine, that it is still going on even since after I stopped playing on your server, which was probably more than a year ago. I used to play quite a bit on your servers though, under my callsign, Grand_Admiral.

Professor_Smith

Player

Reputation: +4

Location: Denver, CO

Registered: 2014-12-06

Posts: 30

Re: Hate

All I know specifically, is that there have been a lot of claims that there are still a lot of Nazi PoS's on your server, hating on Jewish people, and referring to people as niggers & sand niggers, quite a bit. Just lately even; lets say within the last couple of months.

Last edited by Professor_Smith (2020-03-08 08:26:17)

Professor_Smith

Player

Reputation: +4

Location: Denver, CO

Registered: 2014-12-06

Posts: 30

Re: Hate

In addition, some of my friends were banned from your server for making your more show off, vengeful admins, look like rookies on the battlefield. So you might want to take a look into that as well. Like I said, you're losing all the worthwhile players due to stupid, ignorant admins & players, and after a while, you'll only be left with them; a cesspool of hateful people, infecting your server like a social virus.

Last edited by Professor_Smith (2020-03-08 08:24:47)

jorgen

fishing

Reputation: +601

Location: sub arctic

Registered: 2019-11-03

Posts: 1,035

Website

Re: Hate

what is the nick of your friend that got banned? i have seen kids saying heil hitler just to provoke. is that what you are aiming to?

Arkos

Sedmin

Reputation: +2783

Registered: 2014-06-06

Posts: 7,048

Re: Hate

...

Those server messages are just historical statements, not propaganda nor some hate messages.

If you look some WW2 documentation about the WW2 it's also not meant as pro, contra or Propaganda.

...

Professor_Smith

Player

Reputation: +4

Location: Denver, CO

Registered: 2014-12-06

Posts: 30

Re: Hate

Well, first of all why would you defend anyone that is using the word Hitler to provoke other people?

Professor_Smith

Player

Reputation: +4

Location: Denver, CO

Registered: 2014-12-06

Posts: 30

Re: Hate

Copy and paste some of these "historical statements" (in full sentences please), from the log, and we'll see how non-offensive, or historically correct they truly are. And I would rather not "out" any of my player friends, for fear of them being persecuted.

Professor_Smith

Player

Reputation: +4

Location: Denver, CO

Registered: 2014-12-06

Posts: 30

Re: Hate

I have been informed of 3 players specifically, that are major nazi supporters and who I have been told of the racist words they sling out. I am willing to private message whomever it may concern. Just tell me who I should message, regarding the matter. And please tell me if something is going to be done about it.

Professor_Smith

Player

Reputation: +4

Location: Denver, CO

Registered: 2014-12-06

Posts: 30

Re: Hate

If you want the names, go ahead and PM me. Otherwise you may end of this thread, as I see no need to continue arguing. Either someone here cares about the racism and is going to take care of it, or they don't care, and it will continue to happen. It is as "SIMPLE", as that.

Last edited by Professor_Smith (2020-03-08 15:57:31)

Zwarrior

Gulag guard

Reputation: +1006

Location: Lusitania

Registered: 2018-10-14

Posts: 1,380

Re: Hate

As far as i know the owner is against any racist comment in his servers, this game is set back in WWII so those sentence you read are good or well placed, the problem comes when fanatics of a certain army cross the red line.

The point is that the owner do care about this thing and his admins do take care of the situations so don´t worry, just have fun and enjoy the game experience.

Professor_Smith

Player

Reputation: +4

Location: Denver, CO

Registered: 2014-12-06

Posts: 30

Re: Hate

Is there by any chance a program or server add on that anyone has created, that allows you to censor specific words typed in the chat? Something that would replace racist words for example, with asterisks.

seventy

Playor

Reputation: +812

Location: Pyongyang

Registered: 2014-03-06

Posts: 1,854

Re: Hate

Is there by any chance a program or server add on that anyone has created, that allows you to censor specific words typed in the chat? Something that would replace racist words for example, with asterisks.

I guess the problem is that what some would consider racist, others would find completey normal. Also, they would have a problem with the word "racist". The server owner himself has made quite a few posts which would fall into that category.

Sunshine

Empress of Doom

Reputation: +4767

Registered: 2012-08-14

Posts: 6,778

Website

Re: Hate

If words on the internet is offending you that much then the easiest thing to do is just ignore them. You can even do so in console so you won't have to see their text.

Pleiades53

Administrator

Reputation: +658

Registered: 2015-06-26

Posts: 1,355

Re: Hate

There are often "seeds" planted here, for purposes unknown to me. To deny them, is dishonest and deceptive. Straight up truth is in the pudding. Have a spoon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY7ZX6ngOSs

Dont fear persecution here. Find the humor instead. Its there if you look. Often laughing at the absurd, is medicinal. I also believe the gross majority of Admins on, will not tolerate IN GAME verbal abuse or insults. Read more posts here and you will see that side of the server. I also expect if you play here a little more often, you will learn who the admins are and learn their character from experience. I believe the best admins are in this server.

Many times while playing on your servers, I have observed players constantly raging and spewing their hateful words,

If you ask when an Admin is on, when you observe this type of behavior, you will find it will NOT be tolerated in game. At least from the Admins I know. Nor should it. And the word "behavior" is the exact word for those actions.

Last edited by Pleiades53 (2020-03-08 18:38:49)

Arkos

Sedmin

Reputation: +2783

Registered: 2014-06-06

Posts: 7,048

Re: Hate

...

You know, some who use those special names or shout out those phrases , they are just young.

In 20 years the have an other view on this.

And those "right" people you are talking about, don't shout out that stuff.

You know, different people have different opinions. 

As long they don't overstep the mark we have no problems with them.

You know they are not bad people, they have just another attitude.

You and me, we know that in half Europe the nationalism and populism is growing.

We have to face that fact and the best is to keep up the conversation with them including different opinions.

...

But if you face onces someone who really goes too far, just report us the guy, time and on which Server it was.

...

If someone got banned on our server or Forum then because he is a untechable Troll, Teamkiller etc or he went too far with his actions.

If you have friends who got banned because they didn't know it better, ... watching the rules, as example, then just tell them they can make an unban request.

Usually we give to anybody a second chance but only with a serious request and the promis to respect the rules and also keep up a good behavior.

...

Last edited by Arkos (2020-03-08 21:16:20)