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short version :
admin kobra and a few others should stop skipping philly, iwo, omaha
long :
most clanners dont like philly, omaha, iwo. according to them, theyre just “bad maps”, unbalanced and asymetrical and make players flee from the server (this is untrue rubbish, theyre good and popular maps and usually fill up the server), so the clanner-admins go the selfish and egocentric way, and do everything they can to skip these maps as much as possible, by using the setnext admin command
it seems as if they think they own the server and the bf1942 game, because they are clanners and admins and have put a lot of time into admining the server, so this is the “reward”; being able to skip all the “bad maps” and being able to choose what the (in their minds stupid public casual) players get
well, there are a lot of good non-clanner admins in simple fra, who have spent more time admining and yet still are more humble, meager and non-arrogant, and never abuse admin rights
im guessing the head admins will is that all 21 maps should be played evenly (at least in primetime) and that no maps should consistently be skipped more than others. furthermore, iwo and omaha often end early due to no uncap mains, which makes them overall played even less - timewise
its been a problem for years, and we have discussed it before :
http://team-simple.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=6002
nameless used to skip philly a lot, but he has (probably reluctantly) stopped it for now
currently, especially admin kobra keeps skipping philly. whenever hes online and philly is next, theres a good chance it gets skipped
here are five examples from recent weeks. number of skipped phillies, omahas, iwos in this period is probably much higher. im not online all the time. these are just the ones that i saw :
date / time map skipped main suspect
14-09-2018 23:00 philly
15-09-2018 19:47 philly
15-09-2018 22:05 iwo kobra
24-09-2018 01:16 philly kobra
07-10-2018 00:22 philly kobra - arkos
Last edited by 000 (2018-10-07 01:41:35)
more omaha / philly skipping today, probably by kobra again ...
we had just played :
bocage
kursk
britain
berlin
iwo
next maps were (as seen in the video at 00:01) :
wake
philly
omaha
but as expected when kobra is online, they were skipped and stalingrad was set to next
and kobra even lied about it, saying maprotation changed. it didnt, an admin (probably him) set stalingrad next during iwo jima
00:04 - merlin : should ne playing wake (truth)
00:22 - kobra : new maprota (lie)
population at the end of iwo : 46 players.
at the end of stali : 16
Last edited by 000 (2018-10-09 01:06:35)
I'm also getting supremely pissed at the selfish changeout of Britain to Bocage instead on a regular basis
... and a few others should stop skipping philly, iwo, omaha
07-10-2018 00:22 philly kobra - arkos
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Dude, i'm not changing maps like this and you know it.
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i have play many maps with arkos, he never do that shit.
Почему меня постоянно банят????
Почему меня постоянно банят????
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more abuse / misuse of the setnext / runnext privilege, especially by kobra and nameless
it depends of the intention of giving some admins maprights of course. if the server owner thinks it is ok that some maps generally are less played in simple fra, due to a few admins skipping them deliberately and consistently, then everything is ok
i dont think it is ok, the skipped maps are some of the ones that already (without skipping) are least played
as mentioned earlier in this thread, clanners generally dont like philly, iwo, omaha, el al ctf, so thats why a few of the clanneradmins keep skipping them (selfishness / egotism)
i would consider telling kobra / nameless to stop it, or remove their maprights if technically possible
if not, then maybe (temporarily?) remove setnext / runnext for all admins
and kobra / nameless virtually never ask players ingame about these skippings and setnexts. when they rarely do, they deliberately twist and interpret the feedback to their own favor
these are just the one that i noticed this month. number of mapskippings are probably twice as high or more
. time / date map(s) skipped set instead main suspect
29-10-2018 around 22:00 el al ctf, coral, omaha bocage kobra
01-11-2018 around 20:40 el al ctf gazala kobra
02-11-2018 around 22:00 philly berlin kobra
03-11-2018 around 23:30 iwo, philly gazala nameless / kobra
07-11-2018 around 23:00 guad, philly berlin kobra
10-11-2018 around 00:40 el al ctf stalingrad
11-11-2018 around 00:10 omaha bocage kobra
14-11-2018 around 20:00 el al ctf stalingrad nameless
15-11-2018 23:39 philly, britain, omaha aberdeen nameless setnext deen + runnext 3 secs into philly
22-11-2018 00:37 el al ctf berlin nameless setnext berlin +runnext 40 secs into el al
23-11-2018 around 01:30 el al ctf aberdeen gio
24-11-2018 around 15:10 iwo, kharkov, philly midway combat setnext midway +runnext in middle of iwo
28-11-2018 around 21:45 philly bulge kobra
Last edited by 000 (2018-11-29 01:03:51)
I think the admins are doing a good job and its good that they skip some maps sometimes...
Not that i had to justify anything to an honourless gamekilling and server-misusing super-egomaniac like u, and no one like u who is on such an incredibly ruthless super-ego-trip should speak of selfishness/egoism - its absolutely absurd! Maybe sometimes there is something like this going on, and a misuse of these things is indeed not ok, but tell me: what made u think u had to involve me there?
"24-11-2018 around 15:10 iwo, kharkov, philly midway combat setnext midway +runnext in middle of iwo"
Are u fOockin kidding me there SickOOO?? I dont even remember the correct command anymore for setting a map as next manually, also a reason why i never do this - and for sure i havent done this @ that day, in the afternoon, when the server is usually crowded.. U have accused Arkos lately already without any justification, now its me huh?!
Lately, late night, i indeed skipped a map after there was a crappy mess of hardcore-teamstacking all the foockin time (ye something u like to do either on many damnd occasions), in that case the teams were continually unbalanced like hell with 12:4 players or so, before i skipped that map i have asked resp. told and warned many guys several times to keep the teams balanced, and i announced to them that i gotta skip the map if they dont listen n finally start to play fair - they refused to follow the rules so in the end i was forced to skip a map, i guess that was the very first time there that ive used the !runnext-command..
So what the hell gives u the right to involve me here huh, and to judge admins decisions in general that often when u have no clue about whats goin on now n then, and why the heck dont u just play anywhere else when u r that unsatisfied with most of the admins here as u obviously are?? Why dont u just keep on with doin ur super-pathetic bailing to death and apart from that stay out of stuff u hardly know anything about?!
And now go and show ur foocked up character again PsychOOO and give me more -reputation with some of ur ridicilous fake-profiles (LMFAO btw) and with the help of some of ur buddies who still believe in that suckin BS and ur freaky lies u r posting here too often! Obviously this game is everything what matters in ur life, seriously, think about to search for help and get well soon man!
Note to the audience: basically that guy is right sometimes with some of his complaints, but a lot of them is also nothing but an exaggerated childish hassle too often, even any lousy kick for any of his misbehavior like teamstackin or bailing to death became a drama-thread already in the past, both some admins regard as disruptive gaming meanwhile and have finally started to kick n ban for that, so ill do it as well in the future! As most of that crap isnt worth the typin and as im fed up with reading his suckin BS-posts and with being accused by him for whatever stuff ive decided to ignore him instead of givin him a feedback he doesnt deserve, so this was my very last comment to "players" like him!
Last edited by Count ComBat (2018-11-29 16:34:57)
ComBat, you should just ignore him mate.
He doesnt even know what he's talking about; yeah there few admins that abuse him but it doesnt mean every admin does that.Making a lot of drama cause of map switch...FFS, admins switch maps according to what majority of players would like to play and not to their own pleasure, also to avoid situations where the game is boring and people leave or where map type leads to disruptive gameplay by a lot of players.There is a damn reason why some maps are skipped!
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When i was reading this:
"Combat setnext midway +runnext in middle of iwo",
my first thought was also: "What?"
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Last edited by Arkos (2018-11-29 18:20:14)
That Kobra guy must be a real tyrant!
admins switch maps according to what majority of players would like to play and not to their own pleasure, also to avoid situations where the game is boring and people leave or where map type leads to disruptive gameplay by a lot of players.There is a damn reason why some maps are skipped!
That's why noone from rtr-sw admins have maprights except one.
@tuia / bud , can you remove planes from philly map?
Then it will be even more boring...
Last edited by Insane (2018-11-30 15:31:12)
Paul Baumer wrote:admins switch maps according to what majority of players would like to play and not to their own pleasure, also to avoid situations where the game is boring and people leave or where map type leads to disruptive gameplay by a lot of players.There is a damn reason why some maps are skipped!
That's why noone from rtr-sw admins have maprights except one.
Speak with that admin, not with me.
You know well that in past some RtR SW admins were seriously abusing their map rights so that decision was taken.
I understand where BFsoldier is coming from. He does have a point, which admins to talk to (blame) i dont know though. I havent played that much on simple lately.
But BFsoldier please realize you are a different type of player. I would call u a "top player"... or a "pro player"... sometimes i even feel you are stat-padding. But i am not here to complain as your gameplay is, in that respect, legit and i myself miss the "non-casual gameplay" as well.
I guess my point is that i'd like to say "please realize you are not alone in this server... most players are just here for fun".
How this all affects to your map rotation complains... not sure. What really annoys me are the map votes... it covers the screen too much (blame dice, not simple admins). I understand some maps are less popular... but i cannot give any solution to this issue.... i just go with the flow.
So....
/me=stfu now
Last edited by iCQ (2018-12-05 01:11:15)
admin vertigo abuses the setnext command too much, to play the maps that he prefers. he skips infantry maps and he rarely ask players
he behaves as if simple fra is his little playground, and as if his egoistic and biased mapskippings are fine and ok
he usually does it late night when he thinks nobody is watching him
it would be interesting to know how many times he has used setnext in 2019
its a shame that i have to make crap-posts like this, but a few of the simple admins like vertigo keep misbeaving
my assumption is based on guesses since i cant see the logs, and i could be wrong, but im quite sure that im right
Last edited by 000 (2019-12-04 04:07:52)
pfft..
- What I do, and don't do with maps is openly stated in the admin section.
- There is nothing abusive about it
- Has nothing to do with my preferences
- Belin rarelypasses a vote. What does that tell ya?
- In summary, you don't know what you're talking about. What a shocker
vertigo the weasel tries to squeeze out of the bad light of his misdoings
There is nothing abusive about it
there is. corrupt admins like you always think everything they do are ok. you have below-average self-criticism and reduced sense of justice and fairness
Has nothing to do with my preferences
this statement by you is a pathetic lie. you always skip inf maps because you dont like them, and you always set maps you do like
Belin rarelypasses a vote. What does that tell ya?
wrong, it often does. and 90+ % of mapvotes are indecisive, pointless argument
In summary, you don't know what you're talking about. What a shocker
you dont, and i do, youre just another noob prick with admin rights. and yeah, its ok to call you stuff like this, since youve insulted me so many times ingame, without me talking back
you constantly skip the maps you dont like. people like you believe own your lame excuses and self-justifications, but its obvious to sensible individuals that your spoutings are utter crap
Try once again to comprehend:
- It's been discussed in the admin forum
- Nothing has been abused or hidden.
- I've also sent a direct PM to tuia regarding maps
I don't know why you are always trying to cause trouble.
Try getting out of mommies basement once in a while.
Maybe find enjoyment that doesn't require a tommygun.
youre the one that has no clue
im not always trying to cause trouble. you see people that speak against you as troublemakers. you would fit right in in north korea
im the simple-forum criticiser. i point out faults and injustices
people like you cant handle criticism. you want to have power, yet powerabuses, yet want no debate. you want the non-admins just to shut up and obey, even though what you dish out is crap.
a small example; you severely insulted me once, and when i insulted you back in the exact same way, you banned me. you sicken me
Last edited by 000 (2019-12-04 06:32:53)
You've made baseless accusations to which I've provided the reasons why you are wrong.
That still isn't good enough, so now I'm a lier, or weasel, or w/e else you may have written.
Not much else I can say here, but at least tried getting through to you. Yikes
... That still isn't good enough, so now I'm a lier, or weasel, or w/e else you may have written. ...
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Definitely a weasel.
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Most of ppl do hate small and boring maps, i'm not against these map changes, but some of the admins can take this step too far
Last edited by Goldie (2019-12-04 14:04:20)
They are welcome to vote for it Goldie, but Berlin doesn't pass (at night, USA time).
This may have been a vote from 000 while on Market last night:
With limited players during that timeframe, the server should be on maps which
will retain/attract players. Unfortunately, that "spraygun" map doesn't do it.
I've talked about it in a few threads on the admin forum, listing the maps which
are effective and nobody shared a negative comment to dispute my efforts.
Fagnatic should entertain the possibility that he's wrong here, yet he cannot.
"you have below-average self-criticism and reduced sense of justice and fairness" - Wow, such a comment made by the most selfish n worst bug-misusing game-killing super-egomaniac sickOOO ever! Usually i dont even read that BS u secrete, this was worth it to read thou, its the peak of ridiculousness, foockin funny good 1 ey!!
It has been my experience, Vertigo works, puts in extra effort (UNDERSTATEMENT) and has the consideration of the BF community, AHEAD of his choices for his desires. This is not new, it is in his character. Which is the drive for his actions. (He paid me BIG BUCKS to say that!)
Honestly, I am 100% sure his actions are ALWAYS in the best interest of the server and community. And always HAVE been, regardless of the server his efforts are at.
That "character" is extremely visible here in the Forums, with insight to actions simply from the postings. Perhaps you may chew on some reading, then realize he is here with positive intent and actions. You might get a better feel, from all the posts and chat captures etc. of the true person behind the name. I am SO happy Vert is here on the front lines and I expect, those who play often will agree. And perhaps others will confirm their experiences and history too.
I am still learning admin habits and who they even are. I find there are very few idiot players and ZERO bad admins in the early evenings (EST) on the SW R+R server. ( I have NO experience with a SINGLE "bad Admmin" at all!!) I have seen your nickname (does not mean its you) a few times so my expectations are you can concur, for that server and those times, a clean and WELL supported server. There are a few Admins, often on at those times, and I am SOOOOO happy they are there. Straight up, HELPING me when I need it, (Advice and teachings) and their love of playing is evident.
I took an "EXAMPLE" for ya. Come to play, then spend your playing time, WORKING to improve the experience. SEE below. SELF explanatory.
It is NOT what a person says. It is WHAT they do. Yourself........included. As with us all.
Well I had some time for the server this afternoon, yet didn't get to play it.
The following does not include other admins, or a few !kill 's that I had to do.
Crazy intentional shit today
Gazala
Line 7234: 12/3/2019 13:02:27 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Please do not attack enemy's main base'.
Line 7236: 12/3/2019 13:02:31 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Please do not attack enemy's main base'.
Line 7241: 12/3/2019 13:02:36 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Please do not attack enemy's main base'.
Line 7250: 12/3/2019 13:03:05 : Client: Said '[BFSM] [Ret]ard banned for attacking enemy's main base'.
Line 7268: 12/3/2019 13:06:20 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Michele[LEGA] please don't team kill'.
Line 7272: 12/3/2019 13:06:29 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Michele[LEGA] kicked for team killing'.
Line 8261: 12/3/2019 14:46:33 : Client: Said '[BFSM] BFSoldier_28 please don't radio spam'.
Line 8263: 12/3/2019 14:46:40 : Client: Said '[BFSM] KARL_MARX please don't radio spam'.
Line 8268: 12/3/2019 14:46:54 : Client: Said '[BFSM] wesam_ghost kicked for disrupting gameplay'.
Line 8287: 12/3/2019 14:47:32 : Client: Said '[BFSM] astraloth banned for 15 mins'.
Line 8302: 12/3/2019 14:48:34 : Client: Said '[BFSM] KARL_MARX banned for 15 mins'.
Line 8309: 12/3/2019 14:49:07 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Please do not attack enemy's main base'.
Line 8312: 12/3/2019 14:49:13 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Please do not attack enemy's main base'.
Line 8322: 12/3/2019 14:49:49 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Please do not attack enemy's main base'.
Line 8333: 12/3/2019 14:50:29 : Client: Said '[BFSM] BFSoldier kicked for team killing'.
Line 8342: 12/3/2019 14:50:58 : Client: Said '[BFSM] BFSoldier_28 kicked for radio spamming'.
Line 8360: 12/3/2019 14:52:04 : Client: Said '[BFSM] BFSoldier_28 kicked for radio spamming'.
Line 8387: 12/3/2019 14:53:44 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Please do not abuse of radio messages'.
Line 8404: 12/3/2019 14:55:08 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Stranjak_A kicked for disrupting gameplay'. <-- wrong guy sad
Line 8424: 12/3/2019 14:55:31 : Client: Said '[BFSM] $traight-Gainz kicked for disrupting gameplay'. <-- right guy smile
Line 8454: 12/3/2019 14:56:54 : Client: Said '[BFSM] abraham7u7xD kicked for disrupting gameplay'.
Line 8508: 12/3/2019 15:01:31 : Client: Said '[BFSM] BFSoldier_25 banned for 15 mins'.
Line 8514: 12/3/2019 15:01:42 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Lauta kicked for shooting friendly vehicles'.
Line 8539: 12/3/2019 15:02:51 : Client: Said '[BFSM] BFSoldier kicked for shooting friendly vehicles'.
Line 8567: 12/3/2019 15:04:34 : Client: Said '[BFSM] BFSoldier_44 kicked for shooting friendly vehicles'.
Line 8579: 12/3/2019 15:05:04 : Client: Said '[BFSM] BFSoldier banned for 15 mins'.
Line 8589: 12/3/2019 15:05:23 : Client: Said '[BFSM] abraham7u7xD banned for attacking enemy's main base'.
Line 8595: 12/3/2019 15:06:02 : Client: Said '[BFSM] oloo banned for 15 mins'.
Line 8601: 12/3/2019 15:06:27 : Client: Said '[BFSM] turbocounter kicked for attacking enemy's main base'.
Line 8630: 12/3/2019 15:09:57 : Client: Said '[BFSM] turbocounter banned for 15 mins'.
Line 8645: 12/3/2019 15:11:25 : Client: Said '[BFSM] pipistrello kicked for attacking enemy's main base'.
Line 8682: 12/3/2019 15:13:35 : Client: Said '[BFSM] $traight-Gainz kicked for disrupting gameplay'.
Line 8699: 12/3/2019 15:14:35 : Client: Said '[BFSM] ZanzaRe kicked for attacking enemy's main base'.
Guadal
Line 5: 12/3/2019 15:19:25 : Client: Said '[BFSM] D-Kay banned for 15 mins'.
Line 50: 12/3/2019 15:24:46 : Client: Said '[BFSM] HOOliganExTHC please don't attack enemy's main base'.
Line 55: 12/3/2019 15:25:05 : Client: Said '[BFSM] BFSoldier_37 please don't radio spam'.
Line 72: 12/3/2019 15:27:31 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Please do not attack enemy's main base'.
Line 74: 12/3/2019 15:27:35 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Please do not attack enemy's main base'.
Line 77: 12/3/2019 15:27:39 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Please do not attack enemy's main base'.
Line 80: 12/3/2019 15:27:44 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Please do not attack enemy's main base'.
Line 84: 12/3/2019 15:28:05 : Client: Said 'this isn't ctf; please leave the uncaps alone'.
Line 92: 12/3/2019 15:29:58 : Client: Said '[BFSM] iceman banned for 15 mins'.
Line 113: 12/3/2019 15:32:33 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Shing banned for 15 mins'.
Line 132: 12/3/2019 15:36:53 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Please do not attack enemy's main base'.
Line 134: 12/3/2019 15:36:57 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Please do not attack enemy's main base'.
Line 136: 12/3/2019 15:37:03 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Please do not team kill'.
Line 138: 12/3/2019 15:37:08 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Please do not team kill'.
Line 162: 12/3/2019 15:40:31 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Player please don't use vehicle as taxi'.
Line 174: 12/3/2019 15:41:28 : Client: Said '[BFSM] E2PZ banned for 15 mins'.
Line 193: 12/3/2019 15:42:23 : Client: Said '[BFSM] DeathWolf please don't use vehicle as taxi'.
Line 204: 12/3/2019 15:43:36 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Roromexi kicked for disrupting gameplay'.
Line 213: 12/3/2019 15:43:53 : Client: Said '[BFSM] DeathWolf banned for team killing'.
Line 233: 12/3/2019 15:45:46 : Client: Said '[BFSM] sgt. von pretzel banned for team killing'.
Line 244: 12/3/2019 15:46:28 : Client: Said '[BFSM] BFSoldier_16 kicked for attacking enemy's main base'.
Line 250: 12/3/2019 15:46:39 : Client: Said '[BFSM] BFSoldier_20 kicked for attacking enemy's main base'.
Line 259: 12/3/2019 15:47:07 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Player kicked for using vehicle as taxi'.
Line 270: 12/3/2019 15:48:26 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Please do not abuse of radio messages'.
Line 288: 12/3/2019 15:51:28 : Client: Said '[BFSM] KARL_MARX kicked for having an inappropriate name'. <-- "lang"
Line 299: 12/3/2019 15:52:25 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Matthew please don't use vehicle as taxi'.
Line 313: 12/3/2019 15:54:43 : Client: Said '[BFSM] Matthew kicked for disrupting gameplay'.
Line 351: 12/3/2019 15:58:46 : Client: Said '[BFSM] KARL_MARX banned for using inappropriate language'.