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Bobbycar

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Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

Bonsoir,

in good old BF-Liga times, it was called bugusing to shoot through walls that are "semi permeable". (Meaning, you can see and shoot through them only from one side.)

Since there is a special boy, who's always camping behind the hangar window and nadespamming the spawn, the simple admins should think about this rule. (If you think this should be legal, i don't know why other game-ruining things are forbidden.)

Have a nice week!

Frank(Ger)

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

I didn´t remember ingame how it is on this server, just found that old one:
http://team-simple.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5173

Another thing is, he uses the name BFSoldier although he is a very skilled player or because he is a cheater.
However if we would catch him and see a BFSoldier with that such stats again, we would have have to assume he evaded. My Question is, should we allow a player, who plays so extremely successful (however) to use an annonym noob name?

Last edited by Frank(Ger) (2017-09-24 21:53:14)

Bobbycar

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

I didn´t remember ingame how it is on this server, just found that old one:
http://team-simple.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5173

So bugusing/glitching is not forbidden on simple servers? (In my opinion, it's cheating.)

My Question is, should we allow a player, who plays so extremely successful (however) to use an annonym noob name?

Why not? You cant kick every random-name player with more than 10 points.

ABAS

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

Unfortunetly this bug is allowed on simpke and many noobs use it on BoB and ctf maps

petr8

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

Unfortunetly this bug is allowed on simpke and many noobs use it on BoB and ctf maps

It's sad.

Last edited by petr8 (2017-09-24 23:22:21)

Dakota

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

If you can throw nades or else back at them I think it's ok.  But I remember a glitcht whit vab ....... well you know !!

Hydra{SRB}

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

He appeared recently always in top. I am pretty sure he is in a clan.

Arkos

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

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Only young dudes use fakenames, (except Bloodhounds).  In their eyes it makes them more "special".

Let them dream on.

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Last edited by Arkos (2017-09-25 00:33:08)

bud

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

I think i looked at this sometime before, and that i couldnt find the code for the window. Logical would be to be able to shoot (or toss grenades) from both sides as windows dosnt stop bullets.

But an easier and quick fix would be to simply put something over the window (like a painting or the like). This would block shooting from both sides but still be able to see throw as it would be server side.

Arkos

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

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Yes, good idea.

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bud

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

Okay here is the code, i did put the painting exactly where the window are.

In Objects/Buildings/Common folder Hangar1 open Objects.con and add it like so

ObjectTemplate.create Bundle hangar1Interior
ObjectTemplate.geometry hangar1_m1

rem -----------------------------------------------
rem -- added code for painting over window --
rem -----------------------------------------------
ObjectTemplate.addTemplate eupaint3_M1
ObjectTemplate.setPosition 0/4.8/-10.2
ObjectTemplate.setRotation 0/180/0
rem--- end code --

Per map basis

ObjectTemplate.Active hangar1Interior
ObjectTemplate.addTemplate eupaint3_M1
ObjectTemplate.setPosition 0/4.8/-10.2
ObjectTemplate.setRotation 0/180/0

Battle of britain may have there own hangars, so i have to check that out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOO7LvJhK2w

edit: tested the "per map basis code" on BoB and it worked fine, its the same factories just the sirens that differs.

Last edited by bud (2017-09-25 01:38:45)

simon

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

little flaws like that make this game, the way it was created. why not move over to newer games for less bugs, because this one is all about it. use your creativity, there are so many possibilities that you could use to turn any situation around rather easily..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt3WFrrrJOY

so, is throwing grenades through building walls also forbidden? bombing people through walls with planes? its all the same thing and you cant forbid everything. just learn to handle it.

ABAS

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

You can easily bomb him from roof top aswell but thats a bug , and usually campers behind that do nade spam and  spawnkilling just to make scorewhoring

lets stop all modding and developing tools cause " the game created in this way "

Count ComBat

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

theres an ammo-box in axies-hangar (idk if its the same @ allied hangar) what makes it much easier to spam the only af-spawnpoint @ hangar-aa..
whatever, besides such a gamestyle pathetic crap-stuff like "no spread" n "no recoil" (or how ever its called) makes it much harder to kill those "players".. eh?!
i just wonder how someone can be proud of his super-score made this way - n keep callin me noob or whatever, i dont care, im just havin enough honor to make my kills in a clean way, so im barely on top n getting killed more often, but at least i can appreciate my achievement

Last edited by Count ComBat (2017-09-25 15:30:02)

deeko

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

whatever, besides such a gamestyle pathetic crap-stuff like "no spread" n "no recoil" (or how ever its called) makes it much harder to kill those "players".. eh?!

It's called increasing your field of view. The illusional gamestyle, that makes it seem like you can spray your enemies from a mile away, without even noticing the recoil. Or, you could decrease it and see where that gets you. amateur.

Count ComBat

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

modifying these files like fov is one thing, what i mean with crap-stuff is a completely different thing - true tho, im an amateur in those matters, others are the experts there in using the cool stuff - who feels addressed?? )

Last edited by Count ComBat (2017-09-25 18:04:01)

deeko

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

modifying these files like fov is one thing, what i mean with crap-stuff is a completely different thing - true tho, im an amateur in those matters, others are the experts there in using the cool stuff - who feels addressed?? )

I don't think you know what you mean under that "crap-stuff" either. And don't fool around, i've heard all of your theories, It's not that hard to figure out who it is addressed to.

Sepp

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

Everyone else here thinks it's called cheating. Except the Cheat Brothers, simon and deeko. Hardly surprising really. Simon's self admitted exploitation is a modus operandi that guides every aspect of the way he plays the game.

Frank(Ger)

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

I think this hangar window is purpose in the game to simulate an extremely advantageous position which effords teamwork or better skills to be taken. However a heavily armored machine gun that covers the single entrance into a bunker from the inside would be more realistic.

My Question is, should we allow a player, who plays so extremely successful (however) to use an annonym noob name?

Why not? You cant kick every random-name player with more than 10 points.

Of course not and i´m not talking about about medium skilled players. I´m talking about someone who allways gets gold with distance. Its clear that he uses this name on purpose to not provide an identity.

ABAS

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

Of course not and i´m not talking about about medium skilled players. I´m talking about someone who allways gets gold with distance. Its clear that he uses this name on purpose to not provide an identity.

That bfsoldier with ping 20 is  xp fanatic

e.S

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

I don't see any problem if someone make kills from there. It's actually fun and, as shown, it's easy to kill such player.

Exp-Tanker

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Re: Bugusing with hangar windows (El Alamein CTF)

Seriously! we are talking about this? Please, just leave BF192 alone lol

Ever seen a window like this?