USA presidential

joint · 2016-09-17 14:12:01

who do you think will win the United States presidential election 2016?
any guesses, thoughts?

the 45th president of the United States is

Hillary
Trump
none

Total votes: 49

Poll is closed

Last edited by joint (2016-09-18 14:56:55)

nämeless · 2016-11-15 12:45:36

Nothing will change but I have got to hand it to you, Americans, you always can do your geopolitics and nobody gives a fuck about something else but American profit, no matter what. Like from the old times when you bought huge Indian territories for small change like the Manhattan island and up to these days when a lady from the US Department of State bought one European nation for a pack of cookies. Everything will be legitimate on behalf of the US.

joint · 2016-11-15 12:56:50

Sunshine wrote:

there's someone holding a "Rape Melania" sign in front of Trump's building in NYC

omg LOL

Sunshine wrote:

There are groups that organized parts of these protests/riots and I wouldn't doubt some are being paid to do it. They literally bus people into these things. Example, apparently on Friday there were a few people from some group about a block from my school's campus and was offering people $50 and a free bus ride to Miami. People from a group called MoveOn was at the school asking people to protests a Trump rally a couple months ago (not sure if they offered money. I ignored them). There's also Craigslist ads in different areas that say they'll pay a grand per week just to protest and block traffic.

feel like i have seen things like this, not so long before, not so far away

Vojislav · 2016-11-15 13:39:46

Thats bullshits , if all Hillary voters go to protests , still there will be less people than those who support Trump. Trump is legal president, but a lot legal presidents gone because of USA/EU policy , hope that Trump will not be one of them.Even kids knows who is behind these protests.

tuia · 2016-11-15 14:19:28

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpEJcLnxeTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpeSacBp3Jo

Tuesday · 2016-11-15 14:25:00

PitViper wrote:

They are the delusional and spoiled losers that do not threaten the armed majority of this Country.

Vojislav wrote:

Thats bullshits , if all Hillary voters go to protests , still there will be less people than those who support Trump.

It's probably worth noting that Hillary is up in the popular vote by about 800,000 votes right now according to CNN
http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/president

Still, violent protests aren't the answer.

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PitViper · 2016-11-15 14:49:33

CNN Mr. Tuesday? I would not trust that cable news show to tell the temperature. Trump won both the majority vote and the electoral vote. All that matters is the latter.

People that say nothing will change are doomed to never see change even when it's slapping them in the face. You went to Cowboys and Indians nameless? bwaahahahaha... man you are old school Russian.
Our enemy's continue to show themselves...we are thankful...and record everything.

Compared to any other President, he will warp speed in the first 100 days at a level that every single President after him will be expected to do. Take that to the bank.

tuia · 2016-11-15 15:09:57

I would not be so confident about Trump, PitViper. I believe you Americans have been fooled (again). Think about it, what do you expect from a Wall Street billionaire who proclaims he will put Israel first?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvI_TLZ6Wuc

Keep in mind that, with jews you always lose. You can ask the british or the russian people. Most americans are blind as bats to the jewish nature and ways of deception.

Tuesday · 2016-11-15 15:10:58

PitViper wrote:

CNN Mr. Tuesday? I would not trust that cable news show to tell the temperature. Trump won both the majority vote and the electoral vote. All that matters is the latter.

I recognise that news networks often have a bias but Fox also have Hillary winning the popular vote right now and by the same margin
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/electio … adquarters

I'm not sure what you mean by majority vote, isn't it the same as popular vote?

I know that in regard to who wins the presidency only the electoral vote matters. I just thought I would point this out since you and Vojislav both seem to have suggested there are more Trump supporters in the US which doesn't seem to be true.

Zody · 2016-11-15 22:20:15

Tuesday wrote:

PitViper wrote:
CNN Mr. Tuesday? I would not trust that cable news show to tell the temperature. Trump won both the majority vote and the electoral vote. All that matters is the latter.
I recognise that news networks often have a bias but Fox also have Hillary winning the popular vote right now and by the same margin
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/electio … adquarters
I'm not sure what you mean by majority vote, isn't it the same as popular vote?
I know that in regard to who wins the presidency only the electoral vote matters. I just thought I would point this out since you and Vojislav both seem to have suggested there are more Trump supporters in the US which doesn't seem to be true.

Don't try reason with these people, Tuesday. It won't work!

Dakota · 2016-11-15 22:29:30

They should stop those anti-Trump stuff even if I dont beleive in him !! He won that's it that's all, I will bet the majority of protesters was to lazy to go vote thinking that Clinton add it in the bag !!

I can understand why you guys did it, but will it change for better ???

tuia · 2016-11-16 10:57:07

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT89wVouB6I

PitViper · 2016-11-16 12:36:43

No question the sheeple in the US have been fooled many times over Tuia. I would not call the people that voted for Trump sheeple. These people are the system...the money train, the earners that have said enough...the jig is up. We are the ones paying taxes and it's OUR money...not money for the variety of leeches like.... greedy corporations selling us Chinese goods or the nearly half of the people in this country, that are dependents of some sort. They are going to have to depend on themselves very soon. So sit back...grab some popcorn. The bubble is going to pop.

You do not have to be confident about him...we are. What really should be happening is everyone taking a back seat to time...as it will tell all.

'regards

nämeless · 2016-11-16 14:40:39

What do you think about the events on 19 of December? It is possible to steal victory from Trump like it was in case with Bush and Gore in 2000?

PitViper · 2016-11-16 21:53:03

I doubt it.

Vojislav · 2016-11-16 22:02:34

i heard today how votes are still counting in some states and hitlery having more and more in the bag.

PitViper · 2016-11-17 01:49:09

Not worried in the slightest.

Arkos · 2016-11-17 02:59:56

nämeless wrote:

What do you think about the events on 19 of December? It is possible to steal victory from Trump like it was in case with Bush and Gore in 2000?

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Bush won the due electoral votes, same way like trump. Gore and hillary had both more people votes, but this doesn't count for presidency.

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PitViper · 2016-11-17 04:11:53

It's debatable that clinton won the popular vote..,especially due to voter fraud...perhaps in the 3+ million range. More importantly Trump got what mattered... EC votes from wining more states. She won far fewer complete States. So we have the 3 needed areas of govt to get shit done. We won the House, Senate and Presidency.

'good day

Zody · 2016-11-17 09:57:38

PitViper wrote:

It's debatable that clinton won the popular vote..,especially due to voter fraud...perhaps in the 3+ million range. More importantly Trump got what mattered... EC votes from wining more states. She won far fewer complete States. So we have the 3 needed areas of govt to get shit done. We won the House, Senate and Presidency.
'good day

Care to elaborate on "voter fraud"?

@Arkos Nämeless is talking about that family Bush helped George W. Bush to become president by rigging the vote in Florida.

Taken from wikipedia wrote:

It was the closest presidential election in the nation's history, with a .009% margin, 537 votes, separating the two candidates in the decisive state, Florida. The narrow margin there triggered a mandatory recount. Litigation in select counties started additional recounts, and this litigation ultimately reached the United States Supreme Court. The Court's contentious 5–4 decision in Bush v. Gore, announced on December 12, 2000, ended the recounts, effectively awarding Florida's votes to Bush and granting him the victory. Studies have reached conflicting conclusions about who would have won the recount had it been allowed to proceed.

If you want something easy to watch on that topic watch Fahrenheit 9/11. It is highly subjective but gives you a broad picture about why people think the election was rigged.

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Sunshine · 2016-11-17 11:28:49

Voter fraud... besides illegals voting, there are concerns of people voting multiple times and even people using dead people's info to vote.

So many people here in FL talk about that election in 2000 and they talked about it on the local news channels quite a bit. They don't believe it was stolen. Most just believe it was very close (and warranted a recount) and that Democrats were doing whatever they could to try to prevent the other side from winning. They do agree that FL elections (local, state and presidential) are a bit crazy and there's always conflicts about them. Who knows. Supposedly there were some questionable issues in Miami and Orlando this time but I don't know the full story about that.

Zody · 2016-11-17 11:39:45

Sunshine wrote:

that Democrats were doing whatever they could to try to prevent the other side from winning.

And so did Republicans. The world isn't black and white.

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joint · 2016-11-18 00:05:52

meanwhile Ukrainian politics panic like orphaned kids, some inciting people to protest against 'enemies', some accusing of spying for Moskow those, who gonna protest, some claim that they always struggle for people, but bad guys didnt let them... wonderful !like now all is coming to the head, its good that Trump won

PitViper · 2016-11-18 07:25:03

Being bumped to the curb involves no acknowledgment of existence. Joint the Liberals have not stopped crying yet....real tears. As soon as Trump raises his hand and takes the office...the jig is up.

joint · 2016-11-18 11:15:32

lol but just stay one-piece (USA)

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Arkos · 2016-11-18 15:46:53

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The funny thing is... at the beginning, the Repuplicans were left and the democrats right. Why you mean demos are blue and reps red?

Somehow it turned in the last 200 years

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Zody · 2016-11-19 08:03:17

Family "definitely not establishment" Trump haha
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr … son-in-law

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PitViper · 2016-11-19 10:54:17

Joint we have already been divided and reached a tipping point...this is about being United once again. Those that do not want to Unite will be excluded.

We don't care about anything Trump did in the past in his private life...just what he does in his public one.

Sunshine · 2016-11-19 11:19:37

Arkos wrote:

...
The funny thing is... at the beginning, the Repuplicans were left and the democrats right. Why you mean demos are blue and reps red?
Somehow it turned in the last 200 years
...

Decent explanation of that switch. I heard of it when I did Civics when I was like 12 and then heard something different when I did American History and American Government classes at 15/16.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJEWasOjgVo

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Zody · 2016-11-19 11:43:37

Sunshine wrote:

Arkos wrote:
...
The funny thing is... at the beginning, the Repuplicans were left and the democrats right. Why you mean demos are blue and reps red?
Somehow it turned in the last 200 years
...
Decent explanation of that switch. I heard of it when I did Civics when I was like 12 and then heard something different when I did American History and American Government classes at 15/16.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJEWasOjgVo

But how is it today Sunshine? Who had a presidential candidate who openly called Mexicans rapists? Who also said its okay to grab women by the pussies!

In the past the roles had been switched but nowadays the Republicans are the far right not the Democrats. Donald Trump is proof of that. This video is also really subjective and populist. For example blaming Slavery, Segregation and Racism on the Democrats is pretty silly.

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Sunshine · 2016-11-19 12:33:27

I wouldn't really call Trump your typical Republican anyway. I don't think most people who think of themselves as Republicans would think he's a typical one lol. He said he was referring to the illegal Mexican criminals, not all Mexicans. Mexico allows people south of them to go through their country for the purpose of getting to the US illegally. They don't want to deal with criminals. I don't defend the shit he said about women, but if we want to start blaming parties, he was a Democrat when he said that.

Republicans are right-wing. No one disagrees. There are different groups within the party that hold slightly different views (but are still right-wing), such as the more libertarian members and the "Tea Party" people.

The head senator of the Democrat party who died a few years ago was a high ranking member of the KKK. Hillary said he was her mentor. Lovely. He did however admit his faults about being part of KKK and denounce such things.

There are black Republicans/conservatives and black libertarians who call out the Democrats about their history and also say that they still have black people in slavery in big cities (which are mostly ran by Democrats), the slavery of being dependent on the government and making it easy to stay on and hard to get off. Some refer to is as the urban plantation. They've done it to indian reservations big time. They've turned most of them into shitholes and wouldn't help anyone get better jobs or help with the economy in other ways. They fucked us over and over. There is a man from Detroit who would talk about the democrats hurting the black community on local news in Michigan. He was always attacked and called racist names by fellow blacks and democrats.

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