#1 2012-12-27 00:36:54

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Abusive admin

Nateos | George is an abusive admin, he banned me from SiMPLE SW RTR server simply for talking on chat, this is a blatant abuse of power, as he accused me of chat spamming when i was in fact having a conversation with a fellow player, what kind of game is this that we are not even permitted to talk to one another?

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#2 2012-12-27 00:39:57

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Re: Abusive admin

You were banned for 15 minutes.

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#3 2012-12-27 00:44:49

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Re: Abusive admin

yes, but why was i banned in the first place? i was just talking

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#4 2012-12-27 00:46:51

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Re: Abusive admin

the admin accused me of spam, when i was talking to another player, and when i said, im not spamming, that im just talking, that that is why there is a chat function in the game in the first place, which i was in no way abusing, and he banned me, i dont get why, what exactly had i done?

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#5 2012-12-27 00:54:50

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Re: Abusive admin

You had been kicked 2 times prior to the ban for using inappropriate language.

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#6 2012-12-27 00:56:02

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Re: Abusive admin

i dont dispute that, but i wasnt using inapropriate language at the time of the ban, nor was i spamming

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#7 2012-12-27 05:38:39

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Re: Abusive admin

george had a bad day, he missed me because i wasnt there at our first christmas together

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#8 2012-12-27 07:53:01

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Re: Abusive admin

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#9 2012-12-27 14:13:12

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My point is this, and i shall silence myself after making it, as i understand that this may be tedious for all those involved. I have played BF since it was first released all those years ago, it's a game i enjoy thoroughly, and i do tend to play by the rules, I dont TK excepted as a response to first being TK'd, and only then when there are no admins around to enforce the rules, I generally avoid base raping, bombing etc, unless the team im playing against is cowering in their base and not going anywhere. And while i may occasionally be guilty of use of colorful language, again it is seldom without prior provocation(ie being tk'd or mocked by other players). I have never come into any conflict with admins, nor prior to this had i been banned from any server, I respect what admins do, and i do my best to support them where and when i can(ie reporting abusive players etc). With that in mind you should understand that part of my enjoyment of this game stems from being able to get to know my fellow players and conversing with them openly, sometimes even hoping to impart to them what little knowledge i may be capable of sharing, as was the case yesterday prior to my ban, I was explaining to a fellow player the historical significance of the name which i use in-game, it was at this point that George warned me not to spam, however in protesting, and saying that i wasnt spamming but rather that i was conversing (which the player i was talking agreed with me on), i received a ban, temporary or otherwise. I am not a difficult person, i don't break the rules unless it cannot be avoided, and i certainly would not be making this much of a deal on this if i felt i had not been wronged unjustly. If the chat function of BF is not for open conversation, free from scrutiny where abuses have not been committed, then what point is there in having a chat function to begin with? To arbitrarily ban those you feel are talking to much goes against everything that i feel this game should be about, after all it is modeled on a real world conflict which was fought to protect these very freedoms. Do not assume that i have a great need to play this game, i have much more recent games on my computer, as well as a console with a full compliment of great games, but i choose to play BF partly because it is classic, and partly because of the community which the game creates, take away our ability and right to converse with one another and you destroy what to me is the soul and essence of the game.. thank you for your time, i hope this gives you all some insight into my position and why i felt it necessary to bring the issue to this forum.

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#10 2012-12-27 15:01:31

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Re: Abusive admin

15min ban can always be prolonged....
Noone else wants to read your stories online, especially during gameplay, this is a game, not google talk.
enjoy your game !

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#11 2012-12-27 15:06:30

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Re: Abusive admin

the chat wasnt made available to everybody engage on conversations, at least not loooong conversations. The first purpose of the chat is mainly related to gameplay, etc. We rarely ban for that so im sure the admin that handed out that ban did it fairly. We do like people chatting and having fun of course, we all do and its part of the game experience but when the conversation takes all of the screen then it can be a nuisance for the rest of the players.
Have fun and dont take it too seriously.

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#12 2012-12-27 20:51:40

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G'day mate. smile It's okay you chat with other players as long as you are not disturbing others. You did not listen to the admin requests when he told you two to stop. You could have used the team chat to keep your conversation with Arrrdyegaming. Here is the chat log from yesterday:

2012-12-26 23:13:41 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: hi all
2012-12-26 23:13:54 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: haista sinä sino paska
2012-12-26 23:14:18 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: lutkuta munaa pentu
2012-12-26 23:14:24 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: any greeks here?
2012-12-26 23:15:47 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: LOL any greeks.. Suomalainen nimi idiootti
2012-12-26 23:16:06 : # [Global] Nateos | George:  what did you say ?
2012-12-26 23:16:06 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: fuck off
2012-12-26 23:16:06 : User operator at console said '[BFSM] Simo Häyhä please keep your language clean'.
2012-12-26 23:16:15 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä:  i asked if there are any greeks
2012-12-26 23:16:21 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: that idiot thinks its funny
2012-12-26 23:16:27 : # [Global] Nateos | George: he s a troll
2012-12-26 23:16:27 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: fool
2012-12-26 23:16:34 : # [Global] Nateos | George:  dont mind, mate
2012-12-26 23:16:34 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: more like a wanker
2012-12-26 23:16:43 : # [Global] Nateos | George:  that too probably
2012-12-26 23:16:43 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: uurrpoo
2012-12-26 23:16:58 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: fucking 5 year olds
2012-12-26 23:16:58 : User operator at console said '[BFSM] Simo Häyhä please keep your language clean'.
2012-12-26 23:17:01 : # [Global] Nateos | George: !klang .27
2012-12-26 23:17:01 : User George at game said '[BFSM] Arrrdyegaming kicked for using inappropriate language'.
2012-12-26 23:17:44 : # [Global] [BE] Ticket to death: hi all
2012-12-26 23:17:51 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: so any greeks?
2012-12-26 23:17:57 : # [Global] Nateos | George:  no
2012-12-26 23:18:15 : # [Global] blinky: english
2012-12-26 23:18:37 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: Sorry Simo :D Mut en ole 5 Years :D
2012-12-26 23:18:49 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: speak english you swine
2012-12-26 23:18:58 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: but why
2012-12-26 23:18:58 : # [Global] Nateos | George:  guys stop it
2012-12-26 23:19:32 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: because i dont understand your dirty pig latin excuse
2012-12-26 23:19:57 : # [Allies] Nateos | George: !klang .30
2012-12-26 23:19:57 : User George at game said '[BFSM] Simo Häyhä kicked for using inappropriate language'.
2012-12-26 23:20:00 : # [Allies] Nateos | George: !klang .1
2012-12-26 23:20:00 : User George at game said '[BFSM] Arrrdyegaming kicked for using inappropriate language'.
2012-12-26 23:20:06 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: fuck
2012-12-26 23:20:06 : User operator at console said '[BFSM] Kicking Simo Häyhä for using banned words'.
2012-12-26 23:20:12 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: Ohh... Where you from then?
2012-12-26 23:21:42 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: Hey Simo sorry.. I thought you were from Finland
2012-12-26 23:21:51 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: no
2012-12-26 23:21:57 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: i just respect simo hahya
2012-12-26 23:22:00 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: best sniper ever
2012-12-26 23:22:06 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: He is!
2012-12-26 23:22:13 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: :D
2012-12-26 23:22:13 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: definately
2012-12-26 23:22:19 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: well, not for distance
2012-12-26 23:22:25 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: but quantity yes
2012-12-26 23:22:28 : # [Global] Nateos | George: !kbase .22
2012-12-26 23:22:47 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: Where you from then? Greece?
2012-12-26 23:22:47 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: he killed over 300 russians in the winter war
2012-12-26 23:22:53 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: no
2012-12-26 23:23:02 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: im from all over really
2012-12-26 23:23:05 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: but im in greece right now
2012-12-26 23:23:11 : # [Global] [BE] Ticket to death: lol
2012-12-26 23:23:27 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: Hey dude i know he killed 300 russians :D He was
2012-12-26 23:23:27 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: its a lovely country
2012-12-26 23:23:33 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: white dead
2012-12-26 23:23:36 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: white death
2012-12-26 23:23:42 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: he didnt use scope
2012-12-26 23:23:45 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: i know
2012-12-26 23:23:54 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: i watched a documentary of him
2012-12-26 23:24:01 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: hes insane
2012-12-26 23:24:16 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: we all finns are :D
2012-12-26 23:24:19 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: he got injured by shellfire, went into coma, woke up
2012-12-26 23:24:19 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: the war ended
2012-12-26 23:24:53 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: I know a lot my own countrys history too dude.. :
2012-12-26 23:24:59 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: do you know it so good?
2012-12-26 23:25:08 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: know what
2012-12-26 23:25:30 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: I mean know him
2012-12-26 23:25:36 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: i know my military history
2012-12-26 23:25:54 : # [Global] [BE] Ticket to death: I don't
2012-12-26 23:25:57 : # [Global] Nateos | George:  ok , so now play, and stop the spam pls
2012-12-26 23:26:00 : # [Global] [BE] Ticket to death: yes please
2012-12-26 23:26:07 : # [Global] Nateos | George:  this is not an IRC chat channel
2012-12-26 23:26:13 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: You went to military in Finland
2012-12-26 23:26:16 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: ???
2012-12-26 23:26:19 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: no
2012-12-26 23:26:19 : # [Global] [BE] Ticket to death: or national geagraphic
2012-12-26 23:26:37 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: im australian
2012-12-26 23:26:47 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: cool
2012-12-26 23:28:37 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: And Simo.. Fuck you telling my language sounds bad
2012-12-26 23:28:37 : User operator at console said '[BFSM] Arrrdyegaming please keep your language clean'.
2012-12-26 23:28:46 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: hahaha
2012-12-26 23:28:50 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: sorry
2012-12-26 23:29:02 : # [Global] Nateos | George:  last warning guys
2012-12-26 23:29:02 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: didnt know its was finnish
2012-12-26 23:29:11 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: for what?
2012-12-26 23:29:17 : # [Global] Nateos | George:  for chat spam
2012-12-26 23:29:20 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: its not spam
2012-12-26 23:29:23 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: dude..
2012-12-26 23:29:26 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: we are chatting
2012-12-26 23:29:30 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: yeah
2012-12-26 23:29:39 : # [Global] Nateos | George: good for you , this is not the place for chat,
2012-12-26 23:29:45 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: why?
2012-12-26 23:29:51 : # [Global] [BE] Ticket to death: there is msn?
2012-12-26 23:29:54 : # [Global] Simo Häyhä: why did they put chat function/
2012-12-26 23:29:54 : # [Global] Nateos | George:  i smell a troll
2012-12-26 23:29:57 : # [Global] Nateos | George:  ok,
2012-12-26 23:30:06 : # [Allies] Nateos | George: !b15mins simo
2012-12-26 23:31:19 : # [Global] Arrrdyegaming: anyone has a PS3

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#13 2012-12-27 21:33:40

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Re: Abusive admin

if it wasn´t for George those two guys would up ending married, i´ve seen girls talk less...

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#14 2012-12-27 21:37:27

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Re: Abusive admin

Lecter wrote:

if it wasn´t for George those two guys would up ending married, i´ve seen girls talk less...

Yeah there has been A LOT of chatting on the server now during the holidays, perhaps many inactive players who start chatting with players they recognize or friends giving the game a chance. It's nice if there are more and new players but lately I've also had to kick people for chatting, ive never done that before (spamming yes, extensive chatting no).

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