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Darcano

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Base?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjNCqxXyQe8

Thanks Viita thought for not being trigger happy about it, and accept that the rules are not clear enough and maybe this is a matter of opinion.

Viitapiru

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Re: Base?

Thanks for posting. I bail at 1:30 and at 3:17 I'm killed on take off. In my opinion this is bit on the limit if it could be counted as base camp or just killing a bailer. On your defence, you do check carefully that it's me before shooting.

Would like to hear other opinions and clarify the rules a bit on this grey area.

Lecter

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Re: Base?

The kill for me at 3:17 is basecamping, you are clearly taking off, I will always kick for it. Its nice that Darcano sees you so high and in the mid of the fog but im no pilot and I can only presume he saw a grey plane on af and guessed it took off.

Viitapiru

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Re: Base?

Yes, no doubt it is base camping in my mind. In league this isnt allowed. The rule about for how long time you are allowed to kill a bailer in mainbase needs to be clarified here, many admins would kick for this. 2 minutes is bit too much. I could have pushed to flags from main as inf, died, spawned at af and taken a plane in that time. Would I still be counted as bailer and be killed at take off?

Some framework needs to be given for this rule. I've always thought its a maximum of around 20 - 30 seconds after bailer enters mainbase. But it isnt written in the rules.

Maasika

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Re: Base?

Thanks for posting. I bail at 1:30 and at 3:17 I'm killed on take off. In my opinion this is bit on the limit if it could be counted as base camp or just killing a bailer. On your defence, you do check carefully that it's me before shooting.

Would like to hear other opinions and clarify the rules a bit on this grey area.

IMHO rules are clear:
-once you get active you´re legit target untill you die. No ifs or buts or times.

Anybody who attacs/shoots to mainbase to kill an active player  must understand that he/she takes a risk of doing  baseattack if any collateral damage appears.

dary

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Re: Base?

1:30 - you were already over the battlefield, so no basecamp
3:17 - is clearly basecamp. You just took of and turned left. If you turn right then you are allow to be shot.

dary

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Re: Base?

Thanks for posting. I bail at 1:30 and at 3:17 I'm killed on take off. In my opinion this is bit on the limit if it could be counted as base camp or just killing a bailer. On your defence, you do check carefully that it's me before shooting.

Would like to hear other opinions and clarify the rules a bit on this grey area.

IMHO rules are clear:
-once you get active you´re legit target untill you die. No ifs or buts or times.

Anybody who attacs/shoots to mainbase to kill an active player  must understand that he/she takes a risk of doing  baseattack if any collateral damage appears.

We are talking about planes taking off and there is a grey zone. There should also be a rule saying that it is not allowed to kill planes which are taking off.

A plane could also camp behind the base and kill planes mid high trying to get altitude. I would say that it is allowed to shoot planes between mid till high altitude. At that altitude planes should be able to defend themselves.

KarlsoN

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Re: Base?

There should also be a rule saying that it is not allowed to kill planes which are taking off.

Yes. If you didnt kill a bailer until he gets in next plane - its your problem.
Planes should not be allowed to be attacked during start.

Darcano

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Re: Base?

I could have pushed to flags from main as inf, died, spawned at af and taken a plane in that time. Would I still be counted as bailer and be killed at take off?

I always press tab to see the status of other players, that's why I added you to the buddy list. You were still without deaths.

Some framework needs to be given for this rule. I've always thought its a maximum of around 20 - 30 seconds after bailer enters mainbase. But it isnt written in the rules.

I thought that once you went active there was no cooldown. Looking that not everyone agrees I'm going to stop doing that.

I still think that should be discussed, this is really exploitable.

PS: I only look at the timer to calculate the B17 spawntime, seemed like a lot less time to me.

Last edited by Darcano (2021-07-07 15:23:17)

dary

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Re: Base?

It has been discussed years ago. A base is no safe place if you were once active. But I see opinions are different. Maybe tuia can say something.

Arkos

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Re: Base?

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The rule not attacking a taking off plane is meant for new spawned players.

If someone bails into his Base, it is allowed to hunt him down.

The question is, who is waiting a minute to turn back to see if perhaps the same player has taken that plane with the risk of a quickly manned aa.

There's much more to reach between this minute.

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Sunshine

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Re: Base?

I'm fairly certain tuia said that you are fair game once you leave base. Returning to base doesn't make you safe, which includes entering a new vehicle such as a plane. But, if you kill others while killing the one who returned then you can be kicked for attacking mIn base.

But i agree that the fuzzy area is whether you kill them soon after they return or a longer period of time after they returned.