#1 2017-10-30 19:40:04

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Using artillery from inside uncapturable main base on Caen and Tobruk

That should be forbidden especially on Caen. You can't have this and a rule that forbids attacking main, both contradict with each other. Those are not maps where you can target artillery with plane as it is the case with other maps. And using artillery or tank leads to other people being killed in main base. If someone wants to use artillery it should be from position that can be legaly attacked.
  It's very common (just happened today) that admins kick/ban people for attacking canadian base when there is active saxon pixelshooting at river base. The actuall offender is left to continue completely ignored. Make this a rule and don't allow open interpretations on this matter!

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#2 2017-10-30 21:54:54

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Re: Using artillery from inside uncapturable main base on Caen and Tobruk

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Intercepting active Arti is allowed on every map. Just take it out with a chirurgic strike, not by shelling the mainbase with wespe of course.

http://team-simple.org/rules

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#3 2017-10-30 22:39:23

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Re: Using artillery from inside uncapturable main base on Caen and Tobruk

Arkos wrote:

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Intercepting active Arti is allowed on every map. Just take it out with a chirurgic strike, not by shelling the mainbase with wespe of course.

http://team-simple.org/rules

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Rules wrote:

Nevertheless, it's permitted to air strike at a fireing AA gun or a shooting artillery that's inside the base.

First of all you can be sure that rule concerns mostly maps with air units and few exceptions like Aberdeen and Bulge.

Germans have no business being anywhere near canadian main according to the objectives. Putting tank anywhere near canadian main and everyone starts complaining about basecamping. Any attempt to attack saxon inside canadian main and you get storm of fire from everyone infantry/tanks that's also inside main base. You should magicly attack just saxon but not infantry/tanks that's also shooting at you? It takes 4+ hits to take it with panzerschreck if you are extremely lucky, and during that time you are still out in the open vulnerable to attack from the base. Throwing granades requires you to be even closer (if possible at all due to anti-basecamp area damaging you). I can give example of a guy called samuraj long time ago who was exploiting that scheme to make make 100+ killes per map. If anyone wants to use the saxon it's not much of an effort to move it infront of the bridge or anywhere out of the antibaseattack area and do it from there(so it can be legally targeted by another artillery, engineer, anti-tank from behind or granades). Not using waspe is personal interpretation that you just made to get around the problems that this issue is surrounded with. As you can see that's not in the rules you can't punish people for that. Tobruk is even worse, tho I haven't seen anybody to exploit it yet. Waspe positioned at the right place in german's main is not accessable by any means.

Second, make this a rule and it will save you 80 % of all the issues with basecamping on those maps. I'm pretty sure this practice is not allowed on servers like ax, I thoutght this is common sense, but seems like there are people with different oppinion here.

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#4 2017-10-31 00:24:26

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Re: Using artillery from inside uncapturable main base on Caen and Tobruk

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You can take out from base shoting arties with anything you want. But not randomly shelling the base nor prophylactic bombing an empty AA.

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#5 2017-10-31 00:35:16

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Re: Using artillery from inside uncapturable main base on Caen and Tobruk

pixeling isnt allowed anyways so they will get kicked
and if you arent pixeling you arent going to hit river from base on caen except if youre really good at tracking and are lucky

same with tobruk

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#6 2017-10-31 04:03:21

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Re: Using artillery from inside uncapturable main base on Caen and Tobruk

Arkos wrote:

nor prophylactic bombing an empty AA.

That's not the topic but i've seen pretty much everyone to do it even admins

moon' wrote:

pixeling isnt allowed anyways so they will get kicked
and if you arent pixeling you arent going to hit river from base on caen except if youre really good at tracking and are lucky

same with tobruk

That's funny because present admins refuse to acknowledge this as pixeling, river base artillery fire from inside canadian main happens EVERY time, no exceptions. You won't hear anyone asking or giving spot for artillery fire so you can be sure that almost anytime you see saxon kill it's pixeling and it's most likely from there.  Today's situation is perfect example, some guy with russian name was pixeling. People who tried to deal with the situation got kicked for attacking main, one even received 15 minute ban, after dozens of complains and 20 minutes abas finally kicked the guy, but Frank(Ger) kept kicking people and claiming it's not pixeling and there is nothing wrong with it. This must be a rule or people will continue to do it and admins will continue to ignore it and kick people for attacking uncapturable base on caen.

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#7 2017-10-31 08:06:46

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Re: Using artillery from inside uncapturable main base on Caen and Tobruk

hanyweh wrote:
Arkos wrote:

nor prophylactic bombing an empty AA.

That's not the topic but i've seen pretty much everyone to do it even admins

moon' wrote:

pixeling isnt allowed anyways so they will get kicked
and if you arent pixeling you arent going to hit river from base on caen except if youre really good at tracking and are lucky

same with tobruk

That's funny because present admins refuse to acknowledge this as pixeling, river base artillery fire from inside canadian main happens EVERY time, no exceptions. You won't hear anyone asking or giving spot for artillery fire so you can be sure that almost anytime you see saxon kill it's pixeling and it's most likely from there.  Today's situation is perfect example, some guy with russian name was pixeling. People who tried to deal with the situation got kicked for attacking main, one even received 15 minute ban, after dozens of complains and 20 minutes abas finally kicked the guy, but Frank(Ger) kept kicking people and claiming it's not pixeling and there is nothing wrong with it. This must be a rule or people will continue to do it and admins will continue to ignore it and kick people for attacking uncapturable base on caen.

Even if it wasn't pixeling you're allowed to attack active targets within the main. The Sexton etc.

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#8 2017-10-31 14:40:52

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Re: Using artillery from inside uncapturable main base on Caen and Tobruk

Allow base camping, allow snipers to snipe base (if you move your dirty ass you wont die!), allow artillery to shoot into main!

THIS IS WAR! ALLOW WAR! NO TO BASE CAMPING RULES! GRAB A BAZOOKA, GRAB THE FLAK, THROW SOME MINES, PLAY THE GAME, PLAY WAR!

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