#1 2015-09-15 21:41:55

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Proposed update to Server Rules: team stacking

I don't think it's good to have unwritten rules, because they make it difficult to know what the rules are.  They could also make things more difficult for those enforcing the rules, because they have no standard to follow.

We seem to have such a rule, the rule against team stacking.  This is actually a good rule; however, the current situation is such that the only way to know of this rule is either to see it enforced on the servers, or else to hear references to it here in the Forum.  Word of mouth is not a good way to disseminate rules.  We have a defined list of Battlefield 1942 Server Rules, so why not put the rule there?

So, I'm proposing that the following rule be added to the Server Rules:

Team stacking (switching teams so as to affect the team balance unfairly) is not allowed.

In addition I would hope there would be some discussion on what situations it would be allowed or not allowed to switch teams, to answer questions such as these:

Am I allowed to switch teams:

  1. to get on a better team?

  2. to help the team that is outnumbered or losing?

  3. to see how many more people we can get on one team than there are on the other? (I hope this one is obvious)

  4. to be on the same team as my friends or clan members?

  5. because I prefer to play on the {Axis | Allied} team?

  6. because people on this team are just goofing off or disrupting play?

  7. because I didn't want to be switched by the auto balance system?

Can this rule be added to the official rules list?

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#2 2015-09-15 22:07:50

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Re: Proposed update to Server Rules: team stacking

the team stacking rule pops up in white txt in game every so often so that isnt a problem
You should play on the team the game puts you on even with Auto balance IMO
Auto balance is working great i think

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#3 2015-09-16 20:40:20

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Re: Proposed update to Server Rules: team stacking

It is very helpful to have the rules pop up in the in-game chat, and I would encourage setting up the servers so that a summary of each rule appears there periodically.

I do think it's still very important to have all the rules listed in the Server Rules page, though.  It gives players one place to go to learn all the rules, and be able to know that, yes, these are all the rules.  It's not unreasonable to expect that if you follow what you have read on the Server Rules page, you shouldn't have to worry about breaking any rules.  That can only happen if all the rules are listed on the rules page.

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#4 2015-09-17 00:16:54

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Re: Proposed update to Server Rules: team stacking

so you are saying we cant expect anyone to follow the rules when they pop up in front of their eyes in game?

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#5 2015-09-17 00:39:30

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Re: Proposed update to Server Rules: team stacking

Good thinking Catpain.  Nobody takes the time to read the rules anyways.   Like driving, if everyone paid attention, the coppers wouldn't be writing traffic tickets...   

nice thinkin though...

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#6 2015-09-17 10:25:11

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Re: Proposed update to Server Rules: team stacking

I also learned rules by doing and trying - thx captain piper for ur patience with me wink

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#7 2015-09-17 11:58:23

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Re: Proposed update to Server Rules: team stacking

ur lucky ur cute and funny bock  tongue

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#8 2015-09-17 16:42:43

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Re: Proposed update to Server Rules: team stacking

PipeR wrote:

so you are saying we cant expect anyone to follow the rules when they pop up in front of their eyes in game?

No, but I will say that I know from experience that I don't see everything that appears in the in-game chat, especially when I'm being shot at.  I see displaying rules there as very helpful, but not a substitute for the Server Rules page on the web site, which is a known place to go to see all the rules.  If you reply on the in-game chat you have to wait for the rules to appear while the game is going on, if you don't miss them; even then you still can't be sure if or when you've seen them all.

My question comes down to, is it really desirable to omit rules from Server Rules page?

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#9 2015-09-17 17:55:46

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Re: Proposed update to Server Rules: team stacking

.....
My question comes down to, is it really desirable to omit rules from Server Rules page?

No, it is not.  But you should know, none of us has the ability to post rule changes in that section.  The individual who does can read this post and add as needed.

Keep the suggestions coming...

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#10 2015-09-17 18:40:20

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Re: Proposed update to Server Rules: team stacking

PipeR wrote:

ur lucky ur cute and funny bock  tongue

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#11 2015-09-17 20:00:04

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Re: Proposed update to Server Rules: team stacking

ATF_SurrenderMonkey wrote:

No, it is not.  But you should know, none of us has the ability to post rule changes in that section.  The individual who does can read this post and add as needed.

Ah, yes, I guess it does come down to one person then.  The discussion is good, though.  It shows how things work for those of us reading, and it can be used in any decision that might be made.

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