#1 2014-08-18 18:47:16

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Banned for "wrong strategy"?

- Your player name - Jucator
- Date and time you were banned - 18 August, half an hour before this post was made.
- Server name - Simple

I received a 1 week ban for "disrupting gameplay".
Map was omaha, the allies had the middle (bunkers) flag, and also had the ticket lead over axis, something like 500-350. I judged that we could win by just keeping this middle flag, and that could be done (in my view) by having apc on one of the ramps, to serve as a spawn point in case the flag is neutralized.

So I controlled the apc and stayed on the right ramp, just short of going up.
However, this did not work and somehow axis managed to get the middle flag, and my apc was destroyed.
joint and Cyrus asked me a few times to go up with the apc, but I remained reluctant, since it could be easily destroyed by tanks/defgun. Also they were using quite inflammatory words for this, such as the f-word (I thought it was not real joint because of this?). DrStrange was in the game, I asked him as to what I should do, but he didn't see my message or chose not to reply.

So basically we lost the middle flag. That's when I got banned by Cyrus for disrupting gameplay.
I have to admit that the apc handling was a strategic mistake on my part. It was a "miscalculated risk" that I took, it didn't pay off. But is it really a legit ground to ban me?

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#2 2014-08-18 18:54:57

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Re: Banned for "wrong strategy"?

You disrupted few days ago the game, ctf glitching with flag in wall, so that no other can get it (we have a thread about you...) first you gets no ban for this...

...now you blocked all the time the apc so that no one cant move with it(you sit more as 10mins it/was more as 1 chance to cross the hill), again disrupting, now you gets your ban.

Pls play fair dont teamsabotage.  (its only a 1week break, other glitchers get it perm!)
thx

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"But there was one player named "Jucator", he was using glitches, ... as he said, for showing. "

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#3 2014-08-18 19:07:03

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Re: Banned for "wrong strategy"?

YourMother wrote:

You disrupted few days ago the game, ctf glitching with flag in wall, so that no other can get it (we have a thread about you...) first you gets no ban for this...

now you blocked all the time the apc so that no one cant move with it(you sit more as 10mins it/was more as 1 chance to cross the hill), again disrupting, now you gets your ban.

Pls play fair dont teamsabotage.
thx

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"But there was one player named "Jucator", he was using glitches, ... as he said, for showing. "

http://www11.pic-upload.de/12.08.14/9rb1z8oehlm.jpg

First, let me comment on my omaha ban.
You said it was 10 minutes. It was no longer than 3-4 mins - the time when I was in control of apc.
There was strategy behind this - every time the middle flag was neutralized, apc would be used to take the flag back. This strategy was working for some time before we failed.

The glitching with wall on berlin ctf.
It was done just to showcase the glitch. Before that, I asked "Want me to show a glitch?"
The server was very lightly populated when I did this, something like 15 players? I thought it would be cool to show this stuff in an already boring game.
I stayed in that wall for just a minute, again reiterating that it was just a show-off, and then I allowed myself to be killed, so that the game could go on.

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#4 2014-08-18 19:09:25

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Re: Banned for "wrong strategy"?

No it was another guy who reported you /make the screen, and it was 100% more as 3-4mins in omaha (other ppl screams too that you should move the apc/ no reaction from you...)

and shit off if the server is empty or full glitcher are same like fu cheaters... so be happy that you gets no permban.

When you want test so a shit do it on a private channel or your own server, but not here!

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#5 2014-08-18 19:13:44

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Re: Banned for "wrong strategy"?

YourMother wrote:

No it was another guy who reported you and it was more as 3-4mins in omaha (other ppl screams to that you should move the apc)

and shit off if the server is empty or full glitcher are same like fu cheaters... so be happy that you gets no permban.

When you want test so a shit do it on a private channel or your own server, but not here!

I explained, holding that apc was a part of a strategy.

Do you understand you correctly, that it's a perfect basis for banning me, the fact that I was controlling apc as I saw fit?

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#6 2014-08-18 19:15:42

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Re: Banned for "wrong strategy"?

libelli wrote:
YourMother wrote:

No it was another guy who reported you and it was more as 3-4mins in omaha (other ppl screams to that you should move the apc)

and shit off if the server is empty or full glitcher are same like fu cheaters... so be happy that you gets no permban.

When you want test so a shit do it on a private channel or your own server, but not here!

I explained, holding that apc was a part of a strategy.

Do you understand you correctly, that it's a perfect basis for banning me, the fact that I was controlling apc?


No the fact is that we had should you banned earlier for glitching, thats now was only a ground more for it. And holding apc, who was more as 1chance to mov e...  n1 strategie, sounds so when someone drives carrier out of map that enemy him not found...

PS; Again you should be happy that you gets no Ban so like other glitchers, if test or not you did it!

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#7 2014-08-18 19:35:09

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Re: Banned for "wrong strategy"?

and hear for you to read only one min in wall... for sure:

Who the guy was who reported you is wayne:

"I told him to go out and also, that this normally get punished with a ban. At the end, he stayed some minutes inside the wall, (with the flag, that people could know, where he is), to kill them, when they tried to bring back their flag.

I used an old fashion way to Screenshot him, it toke at least 30 secs up to 1 minute with NameDateTimeetc. When i came back, he was still inside the wall.

I told him, he could be banned and was prepaired to ban him at least for 1 day, but then, he made somehow a mistake and he was half in/outside wall and i killed him.

So i told him again, that he will be banned next time and after that he didn't do it anymore, ... so i let it be.

I guess, that he didn't made this the first time. So, keep an eye on him. Before all this, he was also going the same route as in LL22's last video, in Berlin behind Allied base left side. Perhaps there is also one glitch..."

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#8 2014-08-18 19:38:45

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Re: Banned for "wrong strategy"?

YourMother wrote:

and hear for you to read only one min in wall... for sure:

2 mins at most.

YourMother wrote:

I told him, he could be banned and was prepaired to ban him at least for 1 day, but then, he made somehow a mistake and he was half in/outside wall and i killed him.

It was not a "mistake". Was intentional. So i could get killed and the game could go on.

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#9 2014-08-18 19:51:10

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Re: Banned for "wrong strategy"?

you're still glitching? that's pathetic

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#10 2014-08-18 20:00:03

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Re: Banned for "wrong strategy"?

s[sk] wrote:

you're still glitching? that's pathetic

Before making a comment you should at least read all the posts in the thread. But I understand it's too long to keep track of it, so read this.

It was done just to showcase the glitch. Before that, I asked "Want me to show a glitch?"
The server was very lightly populated when I did this, something like 15 players? I thought it would be cool to show this stuff in an already boring game.
I stayed in that wall for just a minute, again reiterating that it was just a show-off, and then I allowed myself to be killed, so that the game could go on.

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#11 2014-08-18 21:58:23

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Re: Banned for "wrong strategy"?

Glitching is glitching my friend. Normally you get a perm ban for that. It doesn't matter why you were doing it. Its just not allowed. So at first be happy you didn't got perm banned. Just see this ban as an ban for the glitching and in my opinion your bad strategy will be forgiven. Just chill out for a week and we would be happy to welcome you back when you want to play a fair game and follow the rules.

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#12 2014-08-18 22:13:48

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Re: Banned for "wrong strategy"?

Agree mr Paton should have been prem ban then,but 1week for disrupting because you did not like where apc was,I assumed he was kicked and returned to place apc in same position.you have to remember its a public server and people can do what they want within reason

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#13 2014-08-18 23:45:33

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Re: Banned for "wrong strategy"?

libelli, you are not longer banned, but do not glitch again. And there is no reason for a ban because of not moving apc.

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#14 2014-08-19 01:04:16

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Re: Banned for "wrong strategy"?

libelli wrote:

The glitching with wall on berlin ctf.
It was done just to showcase the glitch. Before that, I asked "Want me to show a glitch?"
The server was very lightly populated when I did this, something like 15 players? I thought it would be cool to show this stuff in an already boring game.
I stayed in that wall for just a minute, again reiterating that it was just a show-off, and then I allowed myself to be killed, so that the game could go on.

...

I told you, before you were glitching, that it's not allowed and it could end in a permaban. I didn't ban you on that day bec. i saw, you don't understand the consequences, so i tried to explain it to you, ... several times. A ban for using exploits is a permban , but i thought, it's too hard for somebody who can't understand what he is doing and so i decided to think about a somedayban. But then you didn't glitch anymore and i had the hope, that, perhaps, you learned something.

...

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#15 2014-08-19 02:57:21

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Re: Banned for "wrong strategy"?

George S. Patton wrote:

Glitching is glitching my friend. Normally you get a perm ban for that. It doesn't matter why you were doing it. Its just not allowed. So at first be happy you didn't got perm banned.

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#16 2014-08-19 11:32:33

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Re: Banned for "wrong strategy"?

Arkos wrote:

I told you, before you were glitching, that it's not allowed and it could end in a permaban. I didn't ban you on that day bec. i saw, you don't understand the consequences, so i tried to explain it to you, ... several times. A ban for using exploits is a permban , but i thought, it's too hard for somebody who can't understand what he is doing and so i decided to think about a somedayban. But then you didn't glitch anymore and i had the hope, that, perhaps, you learned something.

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i'm sure he did
i've banned him for glitching on ax more than a year ago, he kept whining for months how unfair it was, how he had no idea what he's doing, the usual crap
he asked for unban again few weeks ago so i thought fine, it's been a long time and i've unbanned him
didn't know that now he's glitching to keep servers entertained

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#17 2014-08-19 16:39:12

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Re: Banned for "wrong strategy"?

2014-08-19 12:30:58 : # [Global] Xocator: are glitchers bad persons? 
2014-08-19 12:31:04 : # [Global] pickle: yes 
2014-08-19 12:31:11 : # [Global] Xocator: why? 

2014-08-19 14:38:37 : # [Global] Xocator: IS IT ALLOWED TO GLITCH? 

2014-08-19 16:26:20 : # [Global] Xocator: PLEASE CAN I GLITCH

Dafling/Libellis/Libelli/314/Jugador/Giocatore/Jucator/Xocator/...

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#18 2014-08-19 16:41:31

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Re: Banned for "wrong strategy"?

s[sk] wrote:

2014-08-19 12:30:58 : # [Global] Xocator: are glitchers bad persons? 
2014-08-19 12:31:04 : # [Global] pickle: yes 
2014-08-19 12:31:11 : # [Global] Xocator: why? 

2014-08-19 14:38:37 : # [Global] Xocator: IS IT ALLOWED TO GLITCH? 

2014-08-19 16:26:20 : # [Global] Xocator: PLEASE CAN I GLITCH

Dafling/Libellis/Libelli/314/Jugador/Giocatore/Jucator/Xocator/...

I did not plan or do any actual glitching. I was banned for writing these messages?

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