#1 2012-08-06 01:22:36

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Basic but important question

are planes allowed to attack a wespe / priest that is in a main uncapturable base ?

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#2 2012-08-06 01:50:56

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Re: Basic but important question

I would say no.  But on this same topic, what about planes attacking the AA guns next to Allied runway in Battleaxe?

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#3 2012-08-06 01:54:07

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Re: Basic but important question

Yes they´re allowed.

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#4 2012-08-06 02:11:16

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Re: Basic but important question

Only if it fires from the base, thats what i think and dont punish for it

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#5 2012-08-06 02:34:15

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Re: Basic but important question

yes active objetcts in mainbase (like priest or AA)  are allowed to attack

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#6 2012-08-06 02:49:52

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Re: Basic but important question

so :

- snipers are allowed to shoot at / rape infantry that are in uncap zones

- planes / vehicles / ships / infantry are allowed to attack vehicles or aaguns in uncaps that are shooting at stuff outside the uncap ....


this no baserape rule is getting silly.... too many exceptions ...

90 % of all players dont even know about these exceptions, so its unfair against them ......

..... just make a total pure no baserape rule, or allow it ...

these exeptions are unfair .......

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#7 2012-08-06 03:30:29

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Re: Basic but important question

X=X=X=X=X=X=X=X wrote:

so :

- snipers are allowed to shoot / rape at infantry into uncaps

- planes / vehicles / ships / infantry are allowed to attack vehicles or aaguns in uncaps that are shooting at stuff outside the uncap ....


this no baserape rule is getting more and more retarded .... too many exceptions ...

90 % of all players dont even know about these exceptions, so its unfair against them ......

ffs ..... just make a total pure no baserape rule, or allow it ...

these exeptions are unfair and stupid .......


I would be inclined to say that I agree with you (somewhat)

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#8 2012-08-06 05:10:07

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Re: Basic but important question

You can also kill the APC with a plane if it is shooting... of course you can kill a (shooting) Priest / Wespe or AA. Otherwise they wouldnt have any enemies.

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#9 2012-08-06 10:40:31

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Re: Basic but important question

excerpt of bf-league.eu:

§ 3 Campen / Vehicle stealing:
Fairplay is an act of honor!
Camping destroys the gameplay. Therefore it’s forbidden.
"Basecamping" or "Baserape" defines the stay or the attack in/of enemy uncapturable Bases, in order to take the opponents chance to get in the game again.
Der „Thievery“ and also the Destruction of enemy units being in that uncapturable Baes is forbidden.
At all other Locations, left or unused vehicles can be taken or be destroyed.
Generally it’s not allowed to fire into the enemy base, if the opponent doesn’t fires out of it.
To let your opponent a chance, a certain range from the the uncapturable base has to be kept.
This rang eis hardly to define and is different with any map that is played.
Therefore the League Admins appeal to the teams to keep this distance fair.

Permitted attacks:
-Air Strike at a fireing AA
-Planes or Infantry attack a shooting Artillery that’s inside the base.

-Soldier kills in base hidden Sniper
-Berlin: Russian Tank destroyed at respawn
-Battleaxe: Tanks shoot from the bottom of „the hill“ at enemy units

Prohibited attacks:
-Tanks wait at flag in order to kill units, respawning uncapturable base
-Soldier hides in enemy base to kill respawning units
-Planes circle above enemy base to destroy the enmies supplyline
-Unit goes into opponents base an steals a tank or plane
-Unit shoots at opponent who has not left his base and did not yet shoot
You must not enter enemy ships in any way.
It is allowed to take them down with any weapon (plane, tank, defgun)
It’s forbidden to shoot enemy planes during take off.
Unfortunatly the time to attack is barely to define.As a standard; you may attack when the plane is in the air. (We#re sure you all know what we mean, especially all the pilots)
All other vehicles must be given the opportunity to leave their base.

Carrier and Ships are no bases and are allowed to be sunk. All ships can be sunk. The ships are only allowed to be sunk by planes, other ships and def-guns. not allowed is pixelshooting. Shooting Infantry on the carrier is allowed with sniper rifles or other long range infantry weapons, but its not allowed to enter the enemy ships to kill infantry or steal any planes or landing crafts.

Its not allowed to destroy enemy planes on the runway at uncapturable bases or at their starting phase on that runway.
Due to the fact that this moment cant be fixed easily, its mostly set as the point, when the plane has pulled in his landing gear. it must be possible for all other vehicels to leave their bases.

We should use this imo.

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#10 2012-08-06 13:15:08

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Re: Basic but important question

I will bomb a Wespel or tank that sits on an uncapturable flag hillside in a heartbeat,especially on BATTLEAXE.

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#11 2012-08-06 13:38:56

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Re: Basic but important question

If we should play by some rules than its definately liga rules(made by experienced veterans), and thats why 95% of admins are liga players and they keep these simple fair play rules.

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#12 2012-08-06 13:50:11

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Re: Basic but important question

thats why i ask tuia to inser the
!rbase command wich explains exactly the basecamprule...
for example.
It is not allowed to attack the enemy base!
The only excaption is useing a sniper rifel, or take out active objects wich shootin out of the base (active AA, active arry, actice APC)

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#13 2012-08-06 14:00:52

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Re: Basic but important question

RedDawg wrote:

I will bomb a Wespel or tank that sits on an uncapturable flag hillside in a heartbeat,especially on BATTLEAXE.

only allowed when its a active target, that means its shooting from the hill in the bunkers infront!

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#14 2012-08-06 17:06:17

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Re: Basic but important question

Rules will be updated. Pixel-shooting is no longer allowed and neither sniping to main base. Our server rules will be almost the same as the Liga rules, with the exception of allowing to enter ships.

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#15 2012-08-06 21:30:44

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Re: Basic but important question

hm but i thought we accepted snipering the mainbase ? big_smile

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#16 2012-08-06 23:51:58

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Re: Basic but important question

hmmm .... complicated liga rules on a 72 player server where 80 % are noobs ...

do you ppl like to admin 24/7 and constantly warn - kick - ban - warn - kick - ban- warn - kick - ban ?

too many rules, too much forbidden stuff and constant warnings in main chat and admin chat .... it's killing the fun

let the noobs do what they wanna do and loosen up ... it aint a clan war server ......

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#17 2012-08-07 00:18:09

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Re: Basic but important question

well, you think more people  will join the server with this rule hehe tongue?
i think its crowded most of the time

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#18 2012-08-07 00:44:34

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Re: Basic but important question

dont over rule the server, seriously. XxXxX as a point there. We need to try to get this simple, as the server names indicates, so that players easily understand the do´s and the dont´s. I think we´re getting too detailed and at a certain point it just gets strict. This needs to be a fun server, losen up, as for example Nateos was once in the day. Rules ofc but the basic.

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#19 2012-08-07 01:21:42

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Re: Basic but important question

I'm of the opinion to remove the base camping rules totally.
The base campers might annoy some people but i'm guessing about 60 percent of people kicked from the server is for base bombing with planes.

I got the B17 the other day and my first thought was to go bomb the other base, then i realised i couldn't sad.....so I understand why people are kicked.

The only thing that used to really annoy me was expack campers on Kursk, Battleaxe you can deal with the tank's due to the higher up spawn point.
Maybe have some sort of vote because the rules seem to change every day.

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#20 2012-08-07 02:40:54

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i've got a feeling that tuia won't allow uncap attack on simple.fr :-)

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#21 2012-08-07 05:10:38

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Thank u for sniping rules update! just say when :*:*:*

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#22 2012-08-07 09:14:56

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X=X=X=X=X=X=X=X, maybe you are right. I am willing to change the basecamp rules, however the deathbubble for soldiers and tanks will stay, if the majority prefers to have basebombing and sniping to main base allowed. I will open up a poll in a few days.

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#23 2012-08-07 09:31:29

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Sounds good... basecamping with deathbubble is reasonable. Will be much more fun i guess...

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#24 2012-08-07 11:20:58

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to run this server for this length of time then suddenly change a major rule makes no sense imo.with a death bubble you better add a lot of extra planes as the queue at airfield will be huge.:D.

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#25 2012-08-07 13:04:44

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Re: Basic but important question

sniping should be on.........

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#26 2012-08-07 13:20:55

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Red Scorpion wrote:

to run this server for this length of time then suddenly change a major rule makes no sense imo.with a death bubble you better add a lot of extra planes as the queue at airfield will be huge.:D.

You destroy the maps with too many planes. On Gazala and El Alamein are too many planes. It almost doesnt make sense to take a tank...

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#27 2012-08-07 17:50:51

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maps will be destroyed when people work out you can only attack base in a plane and live.all players will be at runway waiting for planes to spawn 4 planes 30 players.:)

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#28 2012-08-07 22:53:51

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dary wrote:

You destroy the maps with too many planes. On Gazala and El Alamein are too many planes. It almost doesnt make sense to take a tank...

Previously, there was some complaints that El Alamein and Gazala maps had few planes for so many players, everyone was waiting to get one. Now, there's too much planes. I agree with you, dary, i think it has too much now, but if i reduce it people will start crying for more planes. If you find the perfect number of planes for those maps, I'll gladly change.

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#29 2012-08-07 22:56:32

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Red Scorpion wrote:

maps will be destroyed when people work out you can only attack base in a plane and live.all players will be at runway waiting for planes to spawn 4 planes 30 players.:)

You can destroy the enemy planes with anti-air, there are some sufficient number of AA guns in main bases to prevent it, I guess.
Most pilots won't approach enemy main base afraid of being gunned down by the AAs.

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#30 2012-08-08 12:52:27

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i understand that tuia but i am not wanting more planes there are enough, it just when the only option to baserape is in a plane there is going to be a very lenghty queue at airfield.even at the moment some just grab a plane and head to opposite base tongue

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