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all gays can be removed from the game

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Tuia you are brainwashed and if you got your way, you would end up tearing down western civilization around yourself for this imagined fantasy, its sad, so old yet... so unwise.

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Tuia you are brainwashed and if you got your way, you would end up tearing down western civilization around yourself for this imagined fantasy, its sad, so old yet... so unwise.

Western civilization has succeeded
destroys everything it can reach. Middle East, most of Asia, all of Africa, Latin America. The poor economy and poverty in these regions is the result of the actions of the wonderful Western civilization.

L0rd Waggachugga

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Tuia you are brainwashed and if you got your way, you would end up tearing down western civilization around yourself for this imagined fantasy, its sad, so old yet... so unwise.

Western civilization has succeeded
destroys everything it can reach. Middle East, most of Asia, all of Africa, Latin America. The poor economy and poverty in these regions is the result of the actions of the wonderful Western civilization.

How's the native population of Siberia doing?

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Tuia you are brainwashed and if you got your way, you would end up tearing down western civilization around yourself for this imagined fantasy, its sad, so old yet... so unwise.

Western civilization has succeeded
destroys everything it can reach. Middle East, most of Asia, all of Africa, Latin America. The poor economy and poverty in these regions is the result of the actions of the wonderful Western civilization.

You know you really shouldn't project costs of communism, its ironic as fuc%ing hell that people like Tuia hate it and no doubt see it as the greater of two evils, yet its still ruZZia doing stalinism light now, but they're the good guys?

The mainstay of these grievances you cited can mostly be attributed as being instigated and or made worse by communsim via ruZZia and chyna, US involvement is more both geo political personal interest and damage control.

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all gays can be removed from the game

That is not what Elton John asked on the phone to Putin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FUSK5EnEs0

Telrin

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How's the native population of Siberia doing?

Pretty good, actually. Population grow since joins to Russia.
You may heard about Buryats, who participate Russian military operation on UA. They are from Syberia, and they are native population.

Total count of native syberians (Yakuts, Buryats, Tuvans, Hakas, Nenetz, Evenk, Hants, Mansi, Chukches, Nanays, Shors, etc.):
175x - 160000 (roughly)
1897 - 822000 (roughly)
1926 - 719714 (census data)
1939 - 709686 (census data)
1959 - 826502 (census data)
1970 - 1033283 (census data)
1979 - 1141928 (census data)
1989 - 1349942 (census data)
2002 - 1507583 (census data)
2010 - 1584811 (census data)
2021 - 1607068 (census data)

Their culture and languages have been preserved, btw.

How doing a native north american indians (or yourcountry-natives)?

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How's the native population of Siberia doing?

Pretty good, actually. Population grow since joins to Russia.
You may heard about Buryats, who participate Russian military operation on UA. They are from Syberia, and they are native population.

Total count of native syberians (Yakuts, Buryats, Tuvans, Hakas, Nenetz, Evenk, Hants, Mansi, Chukches, Nanays, Shors, etc.):
175x - 160000 (roughly)
1897 - 822000 (roughly)
1926 - 719714 (census data)
1939 - 709686 (census data)
1959 - 826502 (census data)
1970 - 1033283 (census data)
1979 - 1141928 (census data)
1989 - 1349942 (census data)
2002 - 1507583 (census data)
2010 - 1584811 (census data)
2021 - 1607068 (census data)

Their culture and languages have been preserved, btw.

How doing a native north american indians (or yourcountry-natives)?

It's useless to explain. Whatever you say, it will be called Russian imperial propaganda, communist propaganda, Stalinist or Putin propaganda. These people think that only they know the truth, and everyone else is a victim of propaganda.

L0rd Waggachugga

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How's the native population of Siberia doing?

Pretty good, actually. Population grow since joins to Russia.
You may heard about Buryats, who participate Russian military operation on UA. They are from Syberia, and they are native population.

Total count of native syberians (Yakuts, Buryats, Tuvans, Hakas, Nenetz, Evenk, Hants, Mansi, Chukches, Nanays, Shors, etc.):
175x - 160000 (roughly)
1897 - 822000 (roughly)
1926 - 719714 (census data)
1939 - 709686 (census data)
1959 - 826502 (census data)
1970 - 1033283 (census data)
1979 - 1141928 (census data)
1989 - 1349942 (census data)
2002 - 1507583 (census data)
2010 - 1584811 (census data)
2021 - 1607068 (census data)

Their culture and languages have been preserved, btw.

How doing a native north american indians (or yourcountry-natives)?

My question was in relation to Dima's reference to the west being the reason other places are poor. But hey let's reason, Africa must be a wonderful place since population growth after colonization started and the culture is preserved to an extent(all culture changes with time and other factors). Well, no. Africas fucked up due to basic preconditions, Guns Germs and Steel is a nice book on this topic.

Anyways, im sure we all can agree that the Tsar wasn't any better than a western monarch? And that Soviet didn't really encourage preserving native lifestyle by collectivization and displacement.

The native population of Norway, including me is doing just fine, thank you. Perhaps too many rights in my opinion. Perhaps we can't even call ourselves natives, to me its just a word you use if you want to claim something based on ancestry.

Propaganda Dima? I suggest you read "Surrounded by Idiots".

In relation to Ukraine, the better man would rather use his superior power to find a peaceful solution, rather than prolonging the suffering of innocents.

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You are all just brutally brainwashed by paltry , corrupt prostitutes anti-Russian anti-USSR none verifity propaganda, with many bogus just for business , and you are guys so easy , it is very easy to sit on your ears and put noodles on, so you either want to listen to what is being propagandized to you, or what you have in empty heads, or what you want to hear, there is no reality. You are stooges. This is big game, It's better not to get involved, weak minds people, this is not for the weak-nervous

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You are all just brutally brainwashed by paltry , corrupt prostitutes anti-Russian anti-USSR none, or what you have in empty heads, o, weak minds people, this is not for the weak-nervous

nation of poverty and HIV constantly calls others empty mind and prostitue,
its funny that how many time you guys use "propaganda" in sentence to answer someone against you, trowling with one word shows who has weak nervous

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Russian MadMax

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Bass, I do not even know your country's flag, being a member of the third world, you have no right to say something about other developed countries, accumulate money to move to Europe as alva
It is precisely stooges like you use "statistics" which are neither comprehensive and reliable fact, and have never been, this is a relatively weak "argument"

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being a member of the third world, you have no right to say something about other developed countries, accumulate money to move to Europe as alva"

hint: your developed country imports weapon and car from it to keep look developed

Russian MadMax

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Iran irak Afghanistan ? L maybe conversely , WE EXPORT weapons and technics to you like help every time ? Your army tanks and weapons -50% is our product

Russian MadMax

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You say anything, you argue for the sake of argument, ordinary trash, you don't argue to reveal the truth, you're wrong in the dumbest moments, lmao what can your country import to us???

Telrin

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But hey let's reason, Africa must be a wonderful place since population growth after colonization started and the culture is preserved to an extent(all culture changes with time and other factors). Well, no.

Controversial statement. Colonization had damage to Africa and rise colonizator-countries wealth. According Maddison's "Growth of World Population, GDP and GDP Per Capita before 1820" - Africans % from Total World population was decreasing since year 1000 and significant dropped since year 1700 to the end of colonization. Now, African population growing fast because of decolonization process.

Africas fucked up due to basic preconditions, Guns Germs and Steel is a nice book on this topic.

And UA (or RU, or EU, who knows) is fuckupping now. Historicans of next ages will write why.

And that Soviet didn't really encourage preserving native lifestyle by collectivization and displacement.

You mistaken. Which books you had read about "collectivization and displacement"? Some was moved to Syberia, not from. Native Syberians live and lived on their historical areas. Most significant growth of native Syberians had at USSR-time.
Besides, soviet researchers keept and described many national traditions and folklor of nations their country. I have a big book full of chukchian tales, for example.

The native population of Norway, including me is doing just fine, thank you. Perhaps too many rights in my opinion. Perhaps we can't even call ourselves natives, to me its just a word you use if you want to claim something based on ancestry.

Are you Saami? Thats impressive, your ancestors live in Norway ~11000 years. Significantly longer Norwegian invaders. Sadly, Norway Saami counts only 37 760 peoples at 2007.
(I joke. You a Norwegian, most likely)

L0rd Waggachugga

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But hey let's reason, Africa must be a wonderful place since population growth after colonization started and the culture is preserved to an extent(all culture changes with time and other factors). Well, no.

Controversial statement. Colonization had damage to Africa and rise colonizator-countries wealth. According Maddison's "Growth of World Population, GDP and GDP Per Capita before 1820" - Africans % from Total World population was decreasing since year 1000 and significant dropped since year 1700 to the end of colonization. Now, African population growing fast because of decolonization process.

Africas fucked up due to basic preconditions, Guns Germs and Steel is a nice book on this topic.

And UA (or RU, or EU, who knows) is fuckupping now. Historicans of next ages will write why.

And that Soviet didn't really encourage preserving native lifestyle by collectivization and displacement.

You mistaken. Which books you had read about "collectivization and displacement"? Some was moved to Syberia, not from. Native Syberians live and lived on their historical areas. Most significant growth of native Syberians had at USSR-time.
Besides, soviet researchers keept and described many national traditions and folklor of nations their country. I have a big book full of chukchian tales, for example.

The native population of Norway, including me is doing just fine, thank you. Perhaps too many rights in my opinion. Perhaps we can't even call ourselves natives, to me its just a word you use if you want to claim something based on ancestry.

Are you Saami? Thats impressive, your ancestors live in Norway ~11000 years. Significantly longer Norwegian invaders. Sadly, Norway Saami counts only 37 760 peoples at 2007.
(I joke. You a Norwegian, most likely)

Well, it depends on when you think colonization began and whether you think the effect should come straight away.

Did the natives think displacement of other people to their land was a positive thing? I have not read much about this topic, but maybe you could shed more light on the collectivization in Siberia. One thing i do know is that it was used a lot of boarding schools wich surely impacted their culture alot. It is nice that the culture has been documentet but thats another thing. Again, this is nothing uniqe to Russia, most states are made this way, including Norway. So as to Dimas Statement of western civilication destroys all, sure, but so does all civilication. Even eastern, Tibet and China. The question is what is the ongoing war ending into. If Russia wins it will be annexed into Russia. If Ukraine wins they will keep their national identity and have closer ties to the EU, does this mean Ukraine will become a rich land? I doubt it will, atleast not overnight. But i think its better than the alternative.

I am me, but if ancestry is important on defining me im Sami, Norwegian, Swedish, Finnish, French, Danish, Dutch. The problem with looking at who lived in a place 11 000 years ago, is that there's no clear answer to it due to migration and intermixing.And the 37 760 is only those who bother of registering and meets the criterias ( they must speak Sami or had and parent og granparent who spoke sami).

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You say anything, you argue for the sake of argument, ordinary trash, you don't argue to reveal the truth, you're wrong in the dumbest moments, lmao what can your country import to us???

you are an example of true russian, emptyhead and idiot
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ … 71c17b6b2&

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Good) as there were no arguments, are no arguments now, and you immediately switch to insults and personalities, ofс ofc truth hurt ?)

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Good) as there were no arguments, are no arguments now, and you immediately switch to insults and personalities, ofс ofc truth hurt ?)

What else did you expect?

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Good) as there were no arguments, are no arguments now, and you immediately switch to insults and personalities, ofс ofc truth hurt ?)

What else did you expect?

corrupt prostitutes anti-Russian anti-USSR none, or what you have in empty heads, o, weak minds peoples

ordinary trash, you don't argue to reveal the truth

yeap truth hurt him. btw e.S how is it feels to be in side with Taliban Pedophiles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV4M1YP3RhM

i remember you were sooo intrested in this stuffs that you were even playing with name Bacha Bazi at simple

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You say anything, you argue for the sake of argument, ordinary trash, you don't argue to reveal the truth, you're wrong in the dumbest moments, lmao what can your country import to us???

you are an example of true russian, emptyhead and idiot
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ … 71c17b6b2&

Abb, you ever find it so insanely whack that yes, what you say is true, but at the same time, the govt (yours) backs palestine, which is an intentional effort by both the muslim brotherhood, islamic council of Iran, and the KGB and thusly also sympathetic anarcho terrorists bent on making imperials like De Gaulle pay with their lives for past sins elsewhere, point being they don't care who they help or who they get killed as a result for their objectives, all of that from the two main parties in the late 50's, into the 60's, they both made consecrated efforts to whip up post Arab Israeli war loss of face with islamism, anger,
shaming of muslim "legacy" if you will, that they shouldnt be sitting down
or their forefathers wouldnt be sitting down taking this,
and inventing the so-called "palestinian" nation and cause there and then,
literally a muslim brotherhood guy went there and started saying this,
along with other kinds of interference and weapons support from the KGB as well,
all because Israel is a nuclear capable western ally that ruZZIa knows damn well
will get the fuc in their way in event of a major real world shooting war scenario,
its just so crazy how that all works, its all only about hurting democracies, western civilization and allies
and given so many like you and I know the score, its a futile, drawn out spiting of reality
while innocent lives suffer for it, and of course,
guilty as sin Orc soldiers and pisslam hamas militants (which is a good thing)
but you get the idea anyway.

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Good) as there were no arguments, are no arguments now, and you immediately switch to insults and personalities, ofс ofc truth hurt ?)

What else did you expect?

corrupt prostitutes anti-Russian anti-USSR none, or what you have in empty heads, o, weak minds peoples

ordinary trash, you don't argue to reveal the truth

yeap truth hurt him. btw e.S how is it feels to be in side with Taliban Pedophiles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV4M1YP3RhM

i remember you were sooo intrested in this stuffs that you were even playing with name Bacha Bazi at simple

Listen, trash isn't insult, I just showed the essence of your conversation. 2. Prostitutes, I didn't mean you initially, I didn't even call you a prostitute, you thought in your head that it was addressed to you lol, I don't even need to prove anything, you outargued yourself.3. Be a man pls don’t gossiping, I never played under bacha bazi hagi vagi  nickname

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Be a man pls don’t gossiping, I never played under bacha bazi hagi vagi  nickname

i was talking to e.S. people who play in server know your behaviour and language, its same here

Russian MadMax

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Ah bass sorry I forgot , that you strongest psychologist and philosopher in the world, knowing the psychology every1 heres ppl , I have no questions to you

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Ah bass sorry I forgot , that you strongest psychologist and philosopher in the world, knowing the psychology every1 heres ppl , I have no questions to you

Dunning-Kruger effect, in psychology, a cognitive bias whereby people with limited knowledge or competence in a given intellectual or social domain greatly overestimate their own knowledge or competence in that domain relative to objective criteria or to the performance of their peers or of people in general.

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Did the natives think displacement of other people to their land was a positive thing?

Usualy natives not welcome any strangers mass move-in, due to common human ksenophoby (is that all around the world, not only USSR).
Collectivisation is not much about the relocations, but creating new agricultural model - kholhoz. Which in itself is a continuation of the some ideas came from Russian Empire since reforms of Stolypin.
If interested by "more light on the collectivization", you can read "Dizzy with Success: Concerning Questions of the Collective-Farm Movement" by J.Stalin (March 2, 1930). Some citations:
- "Collective farms should not be established by force"
- "Can we say that the principle of voluntariness and taking into account local characteristics is not violated in a number of areas? No, this cannot be said, unfortunately."

But i think its better than the alternative.

I'm curious, what do you mean by alternative?
Even UA will annexed by RU (don't think so), they just become a part of Federation. Losing national identity? No, there are many Ukranians lived in Russia right now, and they keep they roots.

I am me, but if ancestry is important on defining me im Sami, Norwegian, Swedish, Finnish, French, Danish, Dutch.

And how did all these nations end up in Norway to you live? Trades, wars, seek a better life... As usual, isn't? Mostly exact the same in UA now.

EDIT:
More about relocations in Russia, not only USSR time, but late Russian Empire also:
https://translate.google.com/translate? … ent=webapp

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Dunning-Kruger effect, in psychology, a cognitive bias whereby people with limited knowledge or competence in a given intellectual or social domain greatly overestimate their own knowledge or competence in that domain relative to objective criteria or to the performance of their peers or of people in general.

The funny thing about Dunning-Kruger effect is that the effect itself is often misrepresented and the overconfidence of the low performers wasn't actually all that drastic. They also did not use complicated topics in the research, for example I might overestimate my ability to spot a pattern, but it's unlikely that I would do the same with quantum physics

While I'm not a psychologist I would wager that the effect is strongest with simple topics and maybe complex topics that have a lot of emotional baggage included. At the moment many people seem to be experts with the situations in Ukraine or Israel and yet probably would not claim to have extensive knowledge about statistics, politics, history and so on.

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Dunning-Kruger effect, in psychology, a cognitive bias whereby people with limited knowledge or competence in a given intellectual or social domain greatly overestimate their own knowledge or competence in that domain relative to objective criteria or to the performance of their peers or of people in general.

The funny thing about Dunning-Kruger effect is that the effect itself is often misrepresented and the overconfidence of the low performers wasn't actually all that drastic. They also did not use complicated topics in the research, for example I might overestimate my ability to spot a pattern, but it's unlikely that I would do the same with quantum physics

While I'm not a psychologist I would wager that the effect is strongest with simple topics and maybe complex topics that have a lot of emotional baggage included. At the moment many people seem to be experts with the situations in Ukraine or Israel and yet probably would not claim to have extensive knowledge about statistics, politics, history and so on.

Funny thing is that everybody thinks he isn't bias, open minded and hard to manipulate, and not like those, who fell into cheap trucks and lie, while there are wide known effects described all over the internet. Everybody dies being a fool. That's funny.

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... players? No politics

Hi.
Did you old fool really think, they would respect your wish?

Well, the only thing we can choose in this life are our friends
we can pick our neighbours if we're lucky.
We cannot choose our familiy or nation.
Hard to find any unbiased person on this Earth.

Cheers