Making PB and v1.61 servers the standard again

Black Mamba · 2013-09-23 02:37:07

I think it's beneficial to the community that's left in the game, for various reasons.

First and foremost, all those content check disabled and non PB servers attract a sea of glitchers, hackers and overall imbeciles in the various Internet campaigns.

While I agree PB is not 100% flawless and can be bypassed, it still provides a much needed protection for the typical Internet server. If you add to that a server which is pure (as opposed to having content check disabled), you get double protection against hackers.

Obviously the Origin and Origin/1.61/1.6 hybrid servers are populated with a large number of players who have probably never heard of Punk Buster and what its purpose is. Those people need to be educated about the benefits of hosting a PB server if they ever consider hosting a server one day.

It's also always better for the same people to buy the game becomes it usually comes with the option of installing Punk Buster, so those people can set it up in no time and manually update it with the various fixes that were released after Even Balance stopped updating PB in BF1942.

I think it would encourage potential v1.61 or v1.6 players to host clean servers and to themselves play on PB enabled servers.

This Origin and v1.61/1.6 hybridation of servers will eventually kill the game I think, if nothing is done. People are going to be so fed up of playing with hackers they will flee the game in large amounts.

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nämeless · 2013-09-23 07:44:57

Getting back to the times of NBN when PunkBuster was active on that server and the server was full of players, I could only admit that over the half of server population got their PunkBuster pre-installed with non-official game client, but it hasn't been difficult for a bunch of them to use cheats.

Syndrum² · 2013-09-23 08:05:59

tuia when I turn on my punkbuster
can you follow what I'm doing on BF1942?

Sunshine · 2013-09-23 08:27:40

Can you just do like a force update or turn it on when they join?

Timmos · 2013-09-23 09:06:38

Lol, and some are getting scared inhere

Syndrum² · 2013-09-23 09:24:59

I always turn my punkbuster on i have no problems with that
I was just curious xD

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Assi · 2013-09-23 09:47:59

@Syndrum: with pb the server administrators can take an ingame screenshot from you, nothing more.

Syndrum² · 2013-09-23 10:51:30

Ah nice )

Zody · 2013-09-23 11:52:43

It´s senseless. Most cheaters using something to darken the screens anyway.

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tuia · 2013-09-23 12:04:47

First, PunkBuster doesn't work for BF1942 from Origin (v1.612) because it's a different executable from BF1942 v1.61, so playing with BF1942 from Origin in a PunkBuster enabled server would raise memory violations. Second, PunkBuster for BF1942 is no longer updated or available from http://www.evenbalance.com/. That means, PunkBuster doesn't detect latest cheats and to install it, players will have to download PunkBuster custom installers created by the community. Some get scared to open unknown installers because of viruses. Third, BF1942 Origin players don't see BF1942 servers v1.61 and v1.6 in their in-game server list, so they are probably not aware of other BF1942 servers running PunkBuster. Blame it on EA, they released BF1942 from Origin to filter out all servers in the in-game server list with a version lower than 1.612, creating two side communities: BF1942 from Origin and BF1942 retail. So, you can't educate BF1942 Origin players.
PunkBuster still has advantages, such as taking remote screenshots and using MD5 sum checks, but most players don't have it installed and are not taking extra effort to find out how to install it, because they can easily switch to play in another disabled PunkBuster server. It's up to the server administrators to clean their servers of cheaters with or without PunkBuster, because it ruins the game for everyone.

moon' · 2013-09-23 12:19:37

Assi wrote:

@Syndrum: with pb the server administrators can take an ingame screenshot from you, nothing more.

Do you mean that when, for example, Im an hacker without PB enabled the admins can take screens as long as they have it enabled?
Or is it that the hacker and the admin both need to have it enabled?
(Im no hacker that i ask this -_- just want to know it cause it may sound that way xD)

Millerke · 2013-09-23 12:22:28

If a server (like BoRs) has PB enabled, you have to enable it too, because if it is not, you can not join to the server, so both pb-s have to be "on".

tuia · 2013-09-23 12:30:16

Moonlight wrote:

Assi wrote:
@Syndrum: with pb the server administrators can take an ingame screenshot from you, nothing more.
Do you mean that when, for example, Im an hacker without PB enabled the admins can take screens as long as they have it enabled?
Or is it that the hacker and the admin both need to have it enabled?
(Im no hacker that i ask this -_- just want to know it cause it may sound that way xD)

Yes, you can't join PunkBuster enabled servers without having PunkBuster installed and enabled. If you have PunkBuster enabled, but the server is not using PunkBuster, it can't take remote screenshots or detect cheats from you.

Sunshine · 2013-09-23 12:34:42

Ok.. maybe a dumb question here... I thought if you tick that punkbuster box in the server screen it makes you use punkbuster. So.. it's not unless the server has it on?

tuia · 2013-09-23 12:38:26

If you tick that box, it will load PunkBuster files every time you join a server, even if the server is not running PunkBuster.

Timmos · 2013-09-23 12:44:36

and from now on because of this topic, SiMPLE will be full of hackers awsome!!

Zody · 2013-09-23 13:03:13

Timmos wrote:

and from now on because of this topic, SiMPLE will be full of hackers awsome!!

We are already there! ;D

Last edited by Zody (2013-09-23 13:03:27)

tuia · 2013-09-23 13:09:34

I agree, it's better not to openly discuss about PunkBuster and cheats because it raises curiosity about it to new players.
Why was Battlefield 1942 removed from PunkBuster website if all Battlefield games, even Battlefield Vietnam which has very few players, are supported?!

Black Mamba · 2013-09-24 04:56:28

SiMPLE with its already large player base should run a PB server IMO.

tuia · 2013-09-24 13:55:01

I have to confirm that you are kicked by PunkBuster playing with BF1942 from Origin, but I'm pretty sure you are.

Timmos · 2013-09-24 14:51:57

bud wrote:

Yeah i think so to, i have not tried joining any of those servers myself yet.

cause ur a cheater?

Red Scorpion · 2013-09-24 20:08:07

They must have some form of pb as they have pb bans from bf4free

Black Mamba · 2013-09-24 23:14:05

A PunkBuster server should only be hosted by a community with a player base of veterans who know the game thoroughly. If not, the server will be empty most of the time and lose popularity.

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