#1 2019-02-13 01:49:25

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Forgotten Hope Secret Weapon maps won't load (Secret Weapon ONLY)

I've had this issue for quite some time now… after reinstalling Battlefield 1942 from my World War II Anthology edition, it works for a while, until it stops loading maps for after a while at the loading screen.

I have indeed followed the installation instructions by the developers, but it doesn't seem to make any difference whatsoever. The problem itself is that it loads, and then either crashes to the desktop, or "kicks" me back to the main menu of the game.

I tried debugging the problem with the Battlefield 1942 1.6 debugger (bf1942_r.exe) but the log makes no sense to me, as it is a wall of text, literally… I would attach it in this post, if anyone wants to have a go at it, but I can't seem to do so.

Any help is greatly appreciated, as this has troubled me for days.

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#2 2019-02-13 01:55:15

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You can paste the log in https://zerobin.net

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#3 2019-02-13 01:59:55

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#4 2019-02-13 08:29:39

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or "kicks" me back to the main menu of the game

What message is shown?

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#5 2019-02-13 12:45:32

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Re: Forgotten Hope Secret Weapon maps won't load (Secret Weapon ONLY)

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I've had this issue for quite some time now… after reinstalling Battlefield 1942 from my World War II Anthology edition, it works for a while, until it stops loading maps for after a while at the loading screen.

I have indeed followed the installation instructions by the developers, but it doesn't seem to make any difference whatsoever. The problem itself is that it loads, and then either crashes to the desktop, or "kicks" me back to the main menu of the game.

I tried debugging the problem with the Battlefield 1942 1.6 debugger (bf1942_r.exe) but the log makes no sense to me, as it is a wall of text, literally… I would attach it in this post, if anyone wants to have a go at it, but I can't seem to do so.

Any help is greatly appreciated, as this has troubled me for days.

Kind regards,

Skull Kid

1. Did you try loading maps in singleplayer coop mode? because fhsw is multiplayer mod only it will crash if you try it in coop mode

2. If you  tried  multiplayer then what maps crash on you exactly? both fhsw servers have  mappacks installed so if you dont have the mappacks
you wont be able to play   some of the  maps | or is there a chance that you installed the mappack in the wrong folder?

battlefield1942>mods>fhsw>archives>bf1942>levels is the correct path

3. Did you really try installing everything in the correct order?

see this link if you missed something https://www.moddb.com/members/eyeris/tu … e-for-fhsw

4. If you have everything correctly installed in the correct order as shown in the link above but maps still crash  then  try running fhsw with windows NT 4.0 service pack 5 compitability mode

combat had this simmilar issue and this fixed the map crashes for him

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#6 2019-02-13 12:48:49

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Re: Forgotten Hope Secret Weapon maps won't load (Secret Weapon ONLY)

Yes Sparrow, I only host a multiplayer local server, and the map pack is indeed installed, in it's default directory, as everything else. I am not at home at the moment, but I'll check everything when I get home.

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#7 2019-02-13 15:39:59

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There is a lot of  "Couldn't open flat archive file"  comments, for example "Mods/FHSW/Archives/sound_001.rfa"

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#8 2019-02-13 18:00:24

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There is a lot of  "Couldn't open flat archive file"  comments, for example "Mods/FHSW/Archives/sound_001.rfa"

As I remember, it doesn't have any negative effect. Those "flat archive" errors appear if you use BGA for RFA packing, for example. It also happened a few times when I used WinRFA

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#9 2019-02-13 19:54:18

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Well maybe try the old trick to run the game in window mode, and see if there is any direct error output from that

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#10 2019-02-13 21:34:15

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I'm back home to give it another go now. I will have to install the Forgotten Hope map pack 6 in the Secret Weapon folder (mods\fhsw\archives\bf1942\levels) right?

EDIT: Everything seems to be installed correctly, but I will still try windowed mode, without the debugger.

EDIT: No error message whatsoever, just kicks me back to the main menu.

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#11 2019-02-13 22:07:14

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EDIT: No error message whatsoever, just kicks me back to the main menu.

There should be a message with reason there

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#12 2019-02-13 22:13:19

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ziba128 wrote:
Skull Kid wrote:

EDIT: No error message whatsoever, just kicks me back to the main menu.

There should be a message with reason there

I checked in the Windows log, nothing…

EDIT: The windowed mode just either crashes the game, or brings me back to the main menu. Could it be the BlackScreen.exe that is the reason for this?

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#13 2019-02-13 23:54:22

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The game is incredibly sensitive about the sound stuff, one dot in the wrong place and it crash brutally. Can you perhaps do a debug on the vanilla game and post the log, then we could compare them

BFSoundEngine\SoundScriptTemplateEffect.cpp(56): Assert: BFSoundEngine: (false) no endEffect call to previous beginEffect.

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#14 2019-02-14 08:47:56

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Re: Forgotten Hope Secret Weapon maps won't load (Secret Weapon ONLY)

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The game is incredibly sensitive about the sound stuff, one dot in the wrong place and it crash brutally. Can you perhaps do a debug on the vanilla game and post the log, then we could compare them

BFSoundEngine\SoundScriptTemplateEffect.cpp(56): Assert: BFSoundEngine: (false) no endEffect call to previous beginEffect.

Alright, here's the log from the vanilla game.
https://zerobin.net/?78070b3a130d0f13#L … bgagZWKro=

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#15 2019-02-20 16:33:44

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*BUMP*

I've installed Windows 7 again. I remember having more luck there, than in Windows 10. I will try and report back what happens.

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#16 2019-02-21 00:26:19

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Oh forgot to check this thread smile but yes, thats propably a good idea.

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#17 2019-02-21 21:06:15

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Oh forgot to check this thread smile but yes, thats propably a good idea.

Back in Windows 10, as it works better on my machines. It seems I couldn't get Windows 7 on my laptop at all. On my desktop it's a pain. I can live with Windows 10, which I actually like.

Although that Secret Weapon compatibility patch isn't necessary in Windows 10, is it? It still won't work with or without it installed though...

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#18 2019-02-21 21:18:23

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hej har du fått det att funka?

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#19 2019-02-22 07:10:26

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hej har du fått det att funka?

Nej, tyvärr inte. Installerar jag om spelet (vanilla) så fungerar det en stund, men det varar inte speciellt länge.

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#20 2019-02-25 00:42:09

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I've got some good news and some bad news. The good news is that I can finally load any Secret Weapon map. The bad news is that I simply do not know what I did different to get it working. it just seems to work fine now.

Issue resolved!

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#21 2019-03-12 02:33:43

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Now I get a different error with the debug exe. Here's what it says, trying to load most FHSW maps:

Engine\SfxPc\Sample.cpp(82): Assert: SfxPc: (chunkSize == ( stream->length() - 8 )) Sound/44kHz/tnkstrt.wav is corrupt. Error: Wrong chunk size.
Engine\SfxPc\Sample.cpp(139): Assert: SfxPc: (chunkSize <= ( stream->length() - 44 )) Sound/44kHz/tnkstrt.wav is corrupt. Error: Data size to large.

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#22 2019-03-12 13:20:48

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Well looks like that soundfile is corrupt then? Do you have an old harddrive or something?

This seems related https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral … read-a-fil

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#23 2019-03-12 18:13:44

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Strangely not. It happens despite a reinstall on both my computers.

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#24 2019-03-12 22:10:27

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Have you check the file integrity of both FHSW installers?

Use HashMyFiles to see if the file hashes (e.g MD5 hash) were the same as where you download those files, for example ModDB.
https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/hash_my_files.html

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#25 2019-03-13 02:35:48

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Well, the same installers made it work in the past. They are not re-downloaded or such. I will dig deeper into this issue. I will report here if I find anything new in the logs.

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#26 2019-03-13 16:56:48

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1. Try change your ingame sound settings to lower quality (22kHz)

2. You can try change the sound file, use something that sounds similiar and rename it to tnkstrt.wav .Make a backup of the sound.rfa first

3. Depending on how the soundscript is written you can also try this method (i doubt it works tho, but its fast to try) https://www.bfmods.com/viewtopic.php?f= … ren#p11635  change name on files to tnkstrt.wav

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#27 2019-03-13 17:41:19

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Now I get a different error with the debug exe. Here's what it says, trying to load most FHSW maps:

Engine\SfxPc\Sample.cpp(82): Assert: SfxPc: (chunkSize == ( stream->length() - 8 )) Sound/44kHz/tnkstrt.wav is corrupt. Error: Wrong chunk size.
Engine\SfxPc\Sample.cpp(139): Assert: SfxPc: (chunkSize <= ( stream->length() - 44 )) Sound/44kHz/tnkstrt.wav is corrupt. Error: Data size to large.

What's the problem? Does it affect the game in any way?

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#28 2019-03-13 20:45:16

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Yes, the game crashes to the desktop.

EDIT: That was on Windows. Since I cannot run what I wish (Windows 7) on my computers (they're basically unsupported by Windows 7) I run Ubuntu as for now.

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#29 2019-03-13 20:58:47

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...

Also on some newer Boards you can still install Windows 7.

It's just a bit more work.

...

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#30 2019-03-13 21:03:29

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Nevermind my edited part of my last post... I forgot to say that I'm actually dual-booting Windows 10 and Ubuntu 18.04. Having a bit of trouble with decisions at the moment I guess… cannot make up my mind on which operating system that suits me best.

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