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Re: World War III

Persia, он упоротый.

Ты это только сейчас понял?!

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Re: World War III

Persia, он упоротый.

Ты это только сейчас понял?!

Я все еще надеялся, что с помощью убедительной аргументации и неопровержимых фактов можно доказать что-либо.

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dary, I agree that most of it is in the interest of the USA. But not only, I'd say it is an international cult without borders. Look at what is happening in the NL, Germany etc with farmers. Sri Lanka? Everywhere in the world.
The outcome and the reaction to the plandemic, the war in Ukraine were carefully planned. I'd say the USA, Europe and Russia are all in this together, making it look like it is east vs west, while actually it is not. It is globalists vs people.
I don't watch anything for info on youtube because if the channel is not banned, they are doing something wrong.

https://corbettreport.substack.com/p/we … armers-now

"At this point, it would take a special kind of willful ignorance to deny the connection between all of these events. Who could look at the restrictions and cuts being implemented in country after country after country, from the Netherlands to Ireland to Poland to Italy to Canada to Argentina to Sri Lanka and think that it's all just an amazing coinkydink?

No one who's paying attention. By this point, it is self-evident to even the sleepiest of the normies that the destruction of the agricultural sector in country after country is part of a coordinated global agenda."

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I'd say the USA, Europe and Russia are all in this together, making it look like it is east vs west, while actually it is not. It is globalists vs people.

This is not entirely true. Europe has practically no independence from the United States. It is impossible to consider Europe as a separate player on the world stage at the moment. You don't have the same strong politicians now that you had in the early 2000.
Russia and China are waging their own struggle against the globalists.
The transition to payments for national currencies is one of the steps of a smooth departure from dollar dependence and the beginning of a multipolar world.
This is if you dig deeper.
There is no point in banning channels on YouTube, because nothing will change from the fact that you personally find out the truth.

ps Dary, simon. Now zody is crying in the corner, because you too have become victims of Russian propaganda.

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This doesn't mean I take back what I've said. It was about russians defending their operation and making excuses why it was necessary. Going from " why would russia invade ukraine?" to "ukraine got what is deserved". That's ridiculous.
There are very good reasons to block youtube channels, it is the biggest platform and by doing so they prevent a lot of information from moving around because a lot of people only use youtube and won't even click on any other sites.

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The whole essence of modern Ukraine - prostitutes in Norway impersonate Ukrainian women in order to earn more, NRK (Norway):

https://www.nrk.no/vestfoldogtelemark/u … 1.16045598

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Вся суть современной Украины - проститутки в Норвегии выдают себя за украинок, чтобы больше заработать, NRK (Норвегия):

https://inosmi.ru/20220726/prostitutki-255187577.html

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There are very good reasons to block youtube channels, it is the biggest platform and by doing so they prevent a lot of information from moving around because a lot of people only use youtube and won't even click on any other sites.

It depends on what we are talking about. After the start of the special operation, more than 9,000 Russian channels were blocked. This is for one-sided coverage of the event.

But if we take videos in which they will describe in detail the political processes taking place in the world OBJECTIVELY, then in this case it is not necessary to block the channels. Because there are few people who want to study information for years in search of the truth.
Most people live an ordinary life, and as a rule are apolitical. Many of them "accept" the first point of view they come across, which they think is "normal". Or the one that was strenuously imposed by influencing emotions. (for example, in all wars, the image of the enemy is always dehumanized so that it is easier to kill him. As for example, now Russians are called orcs, pigs, dogs. this technique is more than one hundred years old)

Well, even if you study a lot of information, you will learn about the political structure of the world, about the centers of power, confrontation, uncontrolled printing press, the interests of certain countries and what next? What are you going to do? Strike against the Fed?

Therefore, this information hangs freely on YouTube, from different people from different countries. Only there are not 5 minutes of truth, but dozens and hundreds of hours of information.

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The New York Times (USA) about the fighting spirit in the Ukrainian army and the methods of its replenishment:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/25/worl … draft.html

Yes, there are a sufficient number of zombified inadequacies (such as Joint and others), but in general people are adequate and understand what is happening, expressing their attitude to what is happening - “I don’t want to serve!  Ukraine is not even a country at all!”  (this is a quote from the article).

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The New York Times (USA) о боевом духе в украинской армии и о методах её пополнения:

https://inosmi.ru/20220726/ukraina-255193062.html

Да, есть достаточное количество зомбированных неадекватов (таких, как Joint и прочие), но в целом люди адекватны и понимают, что происходит, выражая своё отношение к происходящему - «Я не хочу служить! Украина - это вообще даже не страна!» (это цитата из статьи).

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...

Perhaps Vlad will send you both to the Front one day.

They need this clear view for the Situation to support the Soldiers at the place.

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In continuation of the discussion of the topic of what are the goals of the United States in Ukraine in particular and throughout the world as a whole, I will cite the opinion of Italians, stated in the article “Nicola Porro” (Italy):

https://www.nicolaporro.it/il-lato-oscu … americano/

And poor Ukrainians believe in gratuitous help and support for "democracy", and they are dying so that US politicians and businessmen become even richer... Just some kind of Ukrainian sectarianism - no logic, but only fanatical faith!

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В продолжение обсуждения темы о том, каковы цели США на Украине в частности и во всём мире в целом, приведу мнение итальянцев, изложенное в статье «Nicola Porro” (Италия):

https://inosmi.ru/20220727/amerikanskay … 01627.html

А бедные украинцы верят в безвозмездную помощь и поддержку «демократии», и гибнут за то, чтобы политики и бизнесмены США становились ещё богаче… Просто украинское сектантство какое-то - никакой логики, а только фанатичная вера!

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John, i think you should aim higher. Instead of bf42 forum you should work as a spokesman for Putin.

I would recommend you

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John, i think you should aim higher. Instead of bf42 forum you should work as a spokesman for Putin.

I would recommend you

Thanks for the advice, my Lord, but I'm working pretty high as it is.

My presence in this forum topic is volunteering.

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Re: World War III

Do you work in the information business?

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Do you work in the information business?

No, I'm not from the information business.
And I don't work for the government.

I am an engineer by education, after university I even studied science, wrote a dissertation, taught at the university.  But I left science in order to earn money (at the end of the 90s in Russia it was impossible to earn money in science).

I love history, especially the history of the Second World War (I even went with search parties to the battlefields).

And I also love to analyze information.  And I see how the media manipulate people's minds, what goals are set and how they are achieved, I study it.  This is my hobby.

And I am horrified by the degree of distortion of history, the degree of zombification of the population, especially in Ukraine.

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Do you work in the information business?

No, I'm not from the information business.
And I don't work for the government.

I am an engineer by education, after university I even studied science, wrote a dissertation, taught at the university.  But I left science in order to earn money (at the end of the 90s in Russia it was impossible to earn money in science).

I love history, especially the history of the Second World War (I even went with search parties to the battlefields).

Thats nice, allways use for engineers.

Im also a bit of a history buff, last year i found a soviet belt buckle from the liberation of Finnmark

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"Die Welt" (Germany) on the prospects for Ukraine in the conflict and the role of the United States in the current situation:

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/plu … immer.html

Poor Ukrainians... They were told, having distorted history, that Ukraine is a free and independent country, and for this they are ready to die.  And in fact, modern Ukraine is just a vassal of the United States, since it has neither money, nor weapons, nor political weight (all this is given to Ukraine by the United States).  She took away all the achievements of the peoples of the USSR that were on the territory of Ukraine, appropriated them to herself, and screwed everything up!

The only purpose of modern Ukraine is the fight against Russia, in which it is not even the main element, but one of many elements.  Well, - the supply of raw materials and labor to Western countries.

This was noticed, analyzed and well stated in «Pravda» (Serbia):

https://www.pravda.rs/2022/7/25/pajovic … ja-rusije/

Ukrainians, Europeans! Start thinking, learn to distinguish between propaganda and truth, distinguish between virtual and real history!  Read Noam Chomsky (he is a recognized philosopher and scientist) study alternative sources of information!  Think before it's too late!

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«Die Welt» (Германия) о перспективах Украины в конфликте и о роли США в сложившейся ситуации:

https://inosmi.ru/20220728/prognoz-255244419.html

Бедные украинцы… Им внушили, исказив историю, что Украина - свободная и независимая страна, и за это они готовы умирать. А по факту современная Украина - просто вассал США, так как она не имеет ни денег, ни оружия, ни политического веса (всё это Украине дают США). Она забрала себе все достижения народов СССР, которые были на территории Украины, присвоила их себе, и всё просрала!

Единственная предназначение современной Украины - это борьба с Россией, в которой она даже не основной элемент, а один из многих элементов. Ну и - снабжение сырьем и рабочей силой стран Запада.

Это заметили, проанализировали и хорошо изложили в «Правда» (Сербия):

https://inosmi.ru/20220728/unichtozhenie-255232597.html

Украинцы, Европейцы! Начните думать, научитесь различать пропаганду и истину, отличать виртуальную историю от реальной! Читайте Ноама Хомского (он - признанный философ и учёный) изучайте альтернативные источники информации! Одумайтесь, пока не поздно!

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Re: World War III

Tonight, Ukrainian security forces hit HIMARS missiles at the detention center near Yelenovka in the Donbass, where Ukrainian military prisoners of war are being held, including militants of the Azov formation, 40 Ukrainian prisoners of war were killed and 75 wounded, 8 employees of the detention center were also wounded.

it's so funny. As soon as a large number of testimonies from AZOV militants appeared en masse on the network, including crimes against civilians, a rocket flew at them.
Perhaps this is all you need to know about the government of Ukraine at the moment.

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Tonight, Ukrainian security forces hit HIMARS missiles at the detention center near Yelenovka in the Donbass, where Ukrainian military prisoners of war are being held, including militants of the Azov formation, 40 Ukrainian prisoners of war were killed and 75 wounded, 8 employees of the detention center were also wounded.

it's so funny. As soon as a large number of testimonies from AZOV militants appeared en masse on the network, including crimes against civilians, a rocket flew at them.
Perhaps this is all you need to know about the government of Ukraine at the moment.

Persia!

The Ukrainian media are already convincingly proving that it was the Russians who specially gathered the prisoners in one place and destroyed them.  It's like after in 2014 they fired at the Lugansk administration from a plane and killed people, they first said that it was the air conditioner that had exploded, and then they said that they fired at themselves.

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Украинские СМИ уже аргументированно доказывают, что это русские специально собрали пленных в одном месте, и уничтожили их. Это как после того, как в 2014 они обстреляли из самолета луганскую администрацию и убили людей, они вначале заявили что это взорвался кондиционер, а потом сказали что они сами себя обстреляли.

ДБЛБЛД

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Украинские СМИ уже аргументированно доказывают, что это русские специально собрали пленных в одном месте, и уничтожили их.

Я хотел подождать, пока кто-нибудь не выдаст столь феноменальную версию. Ибо первая же логическая цепочка этой версии разрывается вопросом: "зачем нам это делать?"

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Tension is rising and the stakes are high.

Beijing warns US of ‘forceful’ reply to Taiwan visit by Pelosi

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diploma … pe=article

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Tension is rising and the stakes are high.

Beijing warns US of ‘forceful’ reply to Taiwan visit by Pelosi

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diploma … pe=article

Pelosi coming to Taiwan.

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Regarding Ukraine, the tone of the Western media is beginning to change.  Here, for example, the former prime minister of the Czech Republic writes in idnes.zh (Czech Republic):

https://www.idnes.cz/zpravy/zahranicni/ … anicni_dyn

(Czech Republic currently holds the EU Presidency)

At the beginning of autumn, we will see a lot of interesting things in the Western media, when they gradually begin to reduce the degree of propaganda that poisons the brains of the population of Western countries.

And then Ukraine will appear before the population of Europe in a new form - in the form of a bloody, boorish, corrupt kingdom of lies!

And, perhaps, the Ukrainians themselves will begin to see the real (and not virtual!) situation.  I imagine what they will do with the current government of their country when (if) they understand how they were used ...

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Относительно Украины тон западных СМИ начинает меняться. Вот, например, бывший премьер Чехии пишет в idnes.zh (Чехия):

https://inosmi.ru/20220803/peremirie-255325808.html

(Чехия сейчас председательствует в ЕС)

В начале осени мы увидим много интересного в западных СМИ, когда постепенно станут уменьшать степень пропаганды, которой отравлен мозг населения стран запада.

И тогда Украина предстанет перед населением Европы в новом виде - в виде кровавого, хамского, коррумпированного царства лжи!

И, может быть, начнут видеть реальную (а не виртуальную!) ситуацию и сами украинцы. Представляю, что они сделают с нынешним правительством свой страны, когда (если) поймут, как их использовали…

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Regarding Ukraine, the tone of the Western media is beginning to change.  Here, for example, the former prime minister of the Czech Republic writes in idnes.zh (Czech Republic):

https://www.idnes.cz/zpravy/zahranicni/ … anicni_dyn

(Czech Republic currently holds the EU Presidency)

At the beginning of autumn, we will see a lot of interesting things in the Western media, when they gradually begin to reduce the degree of propaganda that poisons the brains of the population of Western countries.

And then Ukraine will appear before the population of Europe in a new form - in the form of a bloody, boorish, corrupt kingdom of lies!

And, perhaps, the Ukrainians themselves will begin to see the real (and not virtual!) situation.  I imagine what they will do with the current government of their country when (if) they understand how they were used ...

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Относительно Украины тон западных СМИ начинает меняться. Вот, например, бывший премьер Чехии пишет в idnes.zh (Чехия):

https://inosmi.ru/20220803/peremirie-255325808.html

(Чехия сейчас председательствует в ЕС)

В начале осени мы увидим много интересного в западных СМИ, когда постепенно станут уменьшать степень пропаганды, которой отравлен мозг населения стран запада.

И тогда Украина предстанет перед населением Европы в новом виде - в виде кровавого, хамского, коррумпированного царства лжи!

И, может быть, начнут видеть реальную (а не виртуальную!) ситуацию и сами украинцы. Представляю, что они сделают с нынешним правительством свой страны, когда (если) поймут, как их использовали…

True story actually.

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https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ … civilians/

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https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ … civilians/

This looks like a subtle request by Amnesty International for better funding or this kind of articles will be more frequent.

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https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ … civilians/

Wow!
This has never happened before, and now it happened again?!
(C)

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Вау!
Никогда такого раньше не было, и вот опять случилось?!
(C)

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The tone of the Western media is beginning to change, the truth is slowly beginning to seep into the people.
«Sky News» (UK):

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KEPWgMXut_8

I wonder if the Ukrainians are watching this?

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Тон западных СМИ начинает меняться, потихоньку до народа начинает просачиваться правда.
“Sky News” (Великобритания):

https://inosmi.ru/20220805/zelenskiy-255374101.html

Интересно - а украинцы это смотрят?

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Zody, where are you when the entire civilised and progressive world needs your opinion? Israel has started their special military operation against Palestine yesterday, many civilians died.

https://i.imgur.com/CaB3YqN.mp4

Palestinians are fighting back with their hand-made rockets.

How do you think, maybe we need to sell them some high-precision hyper-sound rockets?

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Ukrainians!
(those of you who know how to think and analyze, despite the degradation of education that has taken place in your country)

You probably understand that the standard of living of the country and ordinary citizens depends on the economy.

Read what awaits your country in the near future according to "Foreign Policy" (USA):
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/08/04/uk … test062921

And this is what awaits the country in the long term, according to "Multipolarista" (USA):
https://multipolarista.com/2022/07/28/w … onference/

You were used as a naive stupid girl - at first the countries of the West brainwashed you and gave you hope for the development of the country, and then they will plunder you, as was done with other dependent countries.
Why do you believe in all this, what the West is pushing you towards? Is hatred of Russia dearer to you than your independence and prosperity?
Only that part of Ukraine that will be with Russia will become rich, prosperous and happy. Without Russia, there will be no Ukrainians, the fate of the American Indians awaits them.

P.S. I'm worried about Joint - he hasn't appeared for a long time, I hope he is alive and well.

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Украинцы!
(те из вас, которые умеют думать и анализировать, не смотря на деградацию образования, которую устроили в вашей стране)

Вы наверняка понимаете, что от экономики зависит уровень жизни страны и простых граждан.

Почитайте, что ждет вашу страну в ближайшее время по мнению «Foreign Policy» (США):
https://inosmi.ru/20220808/ukraina-255396497.html

И вот что ждёт вашу страну в отдаленной перспективе по мнению «Multipolarista» (США):
https://inosmi.ru/20220808/ukraina-255397012.html

Вас использовали, как наивную глупую девчонку – вначале страны Запада вам промыли мозг и дали надежду на развитие страны, а затем они вас разграбят, как это было проделано с другими несамостоятельными странами.
Зачем вы верите во всё это, к чему толкает вас Запад? Неужели ненависть к России для вас дороже вашей независимости и процветания?
Только та часть Украины, которая будет с Россией, станет богатой, процветающей и счастливой. Без России украинцев не будет, их ждет судьба американских индейцев.

P.S. Переживаю за Joint – давно он не появлялся, надеюсь он жив и здоров.

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This is not so good considering the already unstable situation in the world.

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https://youtu.be/iKsp_k8At4g
another source
https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/h … 022-07-06/

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