#31 2012-11-17 00:07:45

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Above an empty tank?

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#32 2012-11-17 00:20:42

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ah no sry big_smile
u can only see if someone of ur budies is in tank, too much tank arena for me so i remembered this tongue

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#33 2012-11-19 12:54:48

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all u tank-pro, one question - if fighting another tank up-close, both turret to turret, where to shoot to inflict more damage? aim turret or lower?

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#34 2012-11-19 13:28:57

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Ram , always aim for the rails(gusjenice), you can even destroy an m10 with single shot from sherman, if you hit it well.

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#35 2012-11-19 14:02:06

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RamYam wrote:

all u tank-pro, one question - if fighting another tank up-close, both turret to turret, where to shoot to inflict more damage? aim turret or lower?

kako je i G objasnio, al cu ti ja malo nadopunit wink
ovisi koji tenk je ispred tebe:
sherman-prednje gusjenice ili cijeli prednji donji dio uzima kolko i prednje gusjenice(isto bi vrijedilo i za chi-ha)
m10- prednje gusjenice(ali što niže u gusjenicu-uzima i do 100%) mislim da u njegovu desnu gusjenicu bolje prima
panzer, prednje gusjenice, što niže, njegova lijeva bolje prima( ako pogodiš,uzima preko 50%)
tigar- prednje gusjenice, što niže, njegova desna bolje prima (ako pogodiš, preko 70-80%)
t34 lagani- gađaj u ono mjesto gdje je broj 2- i gdje je strojnica, ako pogodiš taj krug odmah je mrtav, ali to je teško pogodit, bolje gađaj gusjenice
t34 žuti isto kao i lagani

al ovo ti je ako si ispred njega, ako si sa strane gađaj gusjenice, ili čak onaj kotačić prednji koji je malo podignut, ili gusjenice tamo što bliže motoru, ili isto gusjenice u sredini ali što niže možeš- bolje to troje ciljaj sa strane nego da ga bezveze udriš po sredini wink

ps. ako ste 1 na 1 blizu, na mjestu okreći tenk malo ulijevo pa malo udesno, teže će te protivnik pogodit u ova prednja mjesta

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#36 2012-11-19 14:10:03

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Nateos | George wrote:

Ram , always aim for the rails(gusjenice), you can even destroy an m10 with single shot from sherman, if you hit it well.

You can't bring over 100% hp damage with one shot for heavy tank in any way.

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#37 2012-11-19 14:12:37

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Nateos | George wrote:

Ram , always aim for the rails(gusjenice), you can even destroy an m10 with single shot from sherman, if you hit it well.

You can't bring over 100% hp damage with one shot for heavy tank in any way.

for m10 and tiger you can, if you shoot him with another heavy tank, or t34 yellow(this tank does most damage)

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#38 2012-11-19 14:13:49

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hahahaha denny, ur gonna speak in croatian lang because ur scared ur saying something wrong? well i just translated it and its not good.. if you play like that ramyam ur an easy target smile

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#39 2012-11-19 14:20:06

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nämeless wrote:
Nateos | George wrote:

Ram , always aim for the rails(gusjenice), you can even destroy an m10 with single shot from sherman, if you hit it well.

You can't bring over 100% hp damage with one shot for heavy tank in any way.

for m10 and tiger you can, if you shoot him with another heavy tank, or t34 yellow(this tank does most damage)

The tank was already damaged then. Run the local server and check it shooting at the empty tanks with one shot.

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#40 2012-11-19 15:00:08

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You can't bring over 100% hp damage with one shot for heavy tank in any way.

Yes, u can, for example M10, even with sherm or p4.

Denny wrote:

or t34 yellow(this tank does most damage)

It delivers most damage during some time, not with a single shot.

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#41 2012-11-19 15:04:52

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For most of the armored vehicles there is an AngleFalloff value to take into consideration

"AngleFalloff
Basically, if you hit a target dead on (instead of at an angle) you'll do maximum damage. Otherwise, you'll do partial damage (the formula for AngleFalloff is cosine(angle), where an angle of 0 is a straight on hit, which would yield a cosine(0) = 1, and an angle like 89 would be a barely missed graze off the surface, which would yield a cosing(89) = almost 0). "

http://bfmods.com/tutorial9152.php?page … ystem.html

More about Tank armor
http://death-321.webs.com/Battlefield/M … System.pdf

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#42 2012-11-19 15:29:19

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Now I know why I'm a poor tanker: I s*ck at mathematics.

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#43 2012-11-19 15:55:25

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Timmos wrote:

hahahaha denny, ur gonna speak in croatian lang because ur scared ur saying something wrong? well i just translated it and its not good.. if you play like that ramyam ur an easy target smile

its tips for advanced players, you can not understand this smile

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#44 2012-11-19 15:56:33

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Im just glad if i can hit anything at all smile

For me the angle thing is very useful if im in a destroyer battling a sub, spot on its enough with like 4 torpedos to sink the ship, but if i can turn it enough it can take up to 10-12 torpedo hits + if theres time to repair it can take even more.

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#45 2012-11-19 16:57:45

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bud wrote:

For most of the armored vehicles there is an AngleFalloff value to take into consideration

"AngleFalloff
Basically, if you hit a target dead on (instead of at an angle) you'll do maximum damage. Otherwise, you'll do partial damage (the formula for AngleFalloff is cosine(angle), where an angle of 0 is a straight on hit, which would yield a cosine(0) = 1, and an angle like 89 would be a barely missed graze off the surface, which would yield a cosing(89) = almost 0). "

http://bfmods.com/tutorial9152.php?page … ystem.html

More about Tank armor
http://death-321.webs.com/Battlefield/M … System.pdf

Thanks bud, interesting materials, didnt know u can destroy tank shooting to building and killing it by de-briefs, will try smile

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#46 2012-11-19 16:59:44

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Denny wrote:
RamYam wrote:

all u tank-pro, one question - if fighting another tank up-close, both turret to turret, where to shoot to inflict more damage? aim turret or lower?

kako je i G objasnio, al cu ti ja malo nadopunit wink
ovisi koji tenk je ispred tebe:
sherman-prednje gusjenice ili cijeli prednji donji dio uzima kolko i prednje gusjenice(isto bi vrijedilo i za chi-ha)
m10- prednje gusjenice(ali što niže u gusjenicu-uzima i do 100%) mislim da u njegovu desnu gusjenicu bolje prima
panzer, prednje gusjenice, što niže, njegova lijeva bolje prima( ako pogodiš,uzima preko 50%)
tigar- prednje gusjenice, što niže, njegova desna bolje prima (ako pogodiš, preko 70-80%)
t34 lagani- gađaj u ono mjesto gdje je broj 2- i gdje je strojnica, ako pogodiš taj krug odmah je mrtav, ali to je teško pogodit, bolje gađaj gusjenice
t34 žuti isto kao i lagani

al ovo ti je ako si ispred njega, ako si sa strane gađaj gusjenice, ili čak onaj kotačić prednji koji je malo podignut, ili gusjenice tamo što bliže motoru, ili isto gusjenice u sredini ali što niže možeš- bolje to troje ciljaj sa strane nego da ga bezveze udriš po sredini wink

ps. ako ste 1 na 1 blizu, na mjestu okreći tenk malo ulijevo pa malo udesno, teže će te protivnik pogodit u ova prednja mjesta

Hvala denny, znaci ipak uvijek gusjenice, cak i kad se frontalno gadjamo

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#47 2012-11-19 18:24:19

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Basically, if you hit a target dead on (instead of at an angle) you'll do maximum damage. Otherwise, you'll do partial damage (the formula for AngleFalloff is cosine(angle), where an angle of 0 is a straight on hit, which would yield a cosine(0) = 1, and an angle like 89 would be a barely missed graze off the surface, which would yield a cosing(89) = almost 0). "

Assi wrote:

Now I know why I'm a poor tanker: I s*ck at mathematics.

I made a chart. Do I understand correctly? Bud, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Dudeck wrote:
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You can't bring over 100% hp damage with one shot for heavy tank in any way.

Yes, u can, for example M10, even with sherm or p4.

Can you make short video where you can shoot M10 down from Panzer 4 or Sherman tank with one shot?

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#48 2012-11-19 18:40:10

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I think you confused the colors(red=90, lite-green=0)

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#49 2012-11-19 18:44:51

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I think you confused the colors(red=90, lite-green=0)

No, light-green is measured relatively to red. Red - more damage, light-green - less damage.

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#50 2012-11-19 18:46:30

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isnt the angle must be measured relative to the target's surface?
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#51 2012-11-19 18:51:16

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but i thought you needs measured relatively to the flat of the target, no?

What?

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#52 2012-11-19 18:56:19

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joint wrote:

but i thought you needs measured relatively to the flat of the target, no?

Joint, please avoid writting, it only adds more to the confusion. Use a yes, no or maybe.

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#53 2012-11-19 19:03:27

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yes, maybe

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#54 2012-11-19 19:05:33

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Lecter, why don't you give him a chance? You also could ask him to teach you Ukrainian. smile

P. S. I would like to get a response from Bud and Dudeck (post #47).

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#55 2012-11-19 19:08:52

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well i dont know Ukrainian language enough to teach enyone, I can exchange teaching Russian to English wink

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#56 2012-11-19 19:16:32

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I made a chart. Do I understand correctly? Bud, correct me if I'm wrong.

I totally stink at math but the chart looks awesome and right to me.

I guess this effect can be one answer to "wtf i shoot you a zillion times and you didnt die"  (:

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#57 2012-11-19 19:24:22

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im joking, Joint knows that smile

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#58 2012-11-19 23:17:42

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Lecter, why don't you give him a chance? You also could ask him to teach you Ukrainian. smile

P. S. I would like to get a response from Bud and Dudeck (post #47).

i dont think u can destroy m10 with panzer, only if m10 is moving very fast and you hit him in side track
but maybe you can also take 100 from front side of the m10

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#59 2013-03-11 22:58:11

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i think you are forgetting the angle of the armour.

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#60 2013-03-11 23:26:38

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It seems my chart is correct.

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