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because the Ukrainian officials never call it "war", they call it "counter-terrorist operation". For example, today about 40 died and over 100 wounded in the Eastern Ukraine: women, children, civilians...
just wondering, chechnya was war or counter-terrorist operation?
http://rt.com/news/chechnya-celebrates- … operation/
btw, i'm sure ukrainian officials might call it "war" if that other country that is supporting those terrorists with arms and personnel stopped denying it ;-)
Hmmm I just wonder, let's say someone has a French mother and a father from Ghana, where does he belong, France or Ghana? And why..?
anywhere he wants given he obeys the laws of that country and tries to be an useful member of society (or at least isn't the opposite)
Clear logic! Hahaha! Read again.
is that you, yoda? ;-)
Apparently this was posted on twitter before take off
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c03_1405666102
i'm sure it's fake, all passenger had their blood sucked by jewish vampires before take off, right tuia? ;-)
And now read again what you said earlier:
that's why i rephrased because i reread what i wrote since i was confused by your request
"Lavrov said they don't want it => they can't contain anything useful"
s[sk] wrote:nämeless wrote:Yes, I am waiting for the international investigation and data from these black boxes.
Lavrov said they don't want it so they can't contain anything useful
Proof?
of what? that russia doesn't want them?
http://rt.com/news/173820-ukraine-plane-black-boxes/
EDIT: oh, maybe i was vague, was trying to say that i don't think they contain any valuable information since russia said they didn't want them
Yes, I am waiting for the international investigation and data from these black boxes.
Lavrov said they don't want it so they can't contain anything useful
The plane's crash spot is very close to the Russian border and they at least should ask the pilots if everything is okay with the plane to pass control to another side.
steps:
1. google some map with airspace definitions
2. find out how far it was from russian airspace
3. find out what's the usual distance for requesting entrance to an airspace
4. find out what's the order of communication with ATC of airspaces you're leaving and entering
there are strict rules so you should be able to find out if anything was out of ordinary
if ukrainian ATC saw that plane on their radars and their vector and altitude was ok, i don't think they had any reason to contact them
maybe if you made those missiles slower (not like 3x sonic speed), pilots would have time to radio stuff like "umm, there's something in our rear mirror, any idea what's that?"
By the way, the plane's route was not regular on 16 and 17 of July.
http://www.kp.ru/daily/26257/3136622/
i've read it was due to thunderstorms and they were in flight corridor for civilian planes (there's finite number of flight corridors over each area)
military planes don't use them
s[sk] wrote:not much could be heard there
NULL is also a value.
i was tempted to create an mp3 with silence but then i realized that it should contain communication with all the other planes in that airspace
i don't have that ;-)
i'm no aviation expert but my guess is that the communication with regional air authority happens only on entering and leaving the area
so unless they were after the point where russian ATC should have taken control, not much could be heard there
btw, listening to air traffic is a hobby of many people (as it's unencrypted AM transmission somewhere around 100-130MHz), if there was something interesting, it'd be already in news
She is for the "truth", that's why she quit RT and made a drama about it.
Her tweets made me laugh: http://mashable.com/2014/07/18/sara-fir … -main-link
just shows what type of ppl works for RT
28 Palestinians were killed and 1 jews soldier killed in ground attack
"Israel launches ground operation in Gaza; Hamas says Israel to ‘pay a heavy price’"
whoever pays, she already showed her moral flexibility by working for RT ;-)
Hard to fire a surface to air missile while you are drunk
russians designed it, they might have considered this possibility
yes and they've mistaken it for Putin's plane as lifenews.ru wrote ;-)
Okay, I will tomorrow, when I will be at work. It's too late now.
probably no need unless there are errors in translation
you can do the fact checking ;-)
that kit wont help against missiles
but it helps against locals ;-)
im waiting the part when jews attack by inf & tanks
haven't they yet?
EDIT: watch the video above and tell me ur opinion
i liked that, the daily show was always funny
(the end was weak tho, if they switched the reporters, the other guy's chances to survive in gaza would be way lower)
since when i\we care about others religion? <racist question>
when it's not about money? ;-)
s[sk] wrote:HoOK wrote:make a (visa to Europe) for me and im out after i finish univeristy
wouldn't you be happier in some more peaceful arabic country?
hell no, i know some ppl from here went to norway ,Finland as a immigration
they worked there and come back here with bags of money
isn't it sad that you need to go to a country full of infidels, christians and other lowlifes to earn good money?
Knowing that Russia gave the equipment to those terrorists (I can call them that now) makes them accessory. Action should be made here.
too early for conclusions
make a (visa to Europe) for me and im out after i finish univeristy
wouldn't you be happier in some more peaceful arabic country?
you don't have to use metapedia to demonstrate the term ;-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelling_of_Mainila
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5E8kDo2n6g
can someone do a summary of that video? thanks
separatists are saying they don't have anything that could shoot over 3km high
post from their twitter about seizing Buk got deleted
https://twitter.com/dnrpress/status/483248037629018112
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s … 8112+&cd=1
doesn't prove anything tho
News here says a news group called interfax says it was shot 'at altitude" whatever that means and some say they believe it was something sounding like "book" that did it.
those previous ones were shot down from ground if i'm not wrong, this su-25 is said to be shot from air (do the "rebels" have air force?), that commercial airliner, we have to see
ukrainian SU-25 shot down, Boeing 777 with 295 people onboard reportedly shot down, this is starting getting nasty
then, why number of deaths is still increasing
i've read a quote few days ago, kinda liked it
"We use anti-missile defense to protect our civilians, they use civilians to protect their missiles"
also read in a few articles that Hamas Interior Ministry is telling people to ignore those warnings, no idea if that's true
and why number of deaths is increasing? well, Hamas refused the cease fire proposed by Egypt (Israel accepted it) and just keeps shooting at Israel territory
but i'm sure you don't see any connection there
When the nazies made Auschwitz, it was very easy to recognize it as a concentration camp.
When the jews build Gaza, it is not so easy to recognize what it is, a concentration camp.
You know that when the jews are bombing Gaza, its not like they can just run away from Gaza until it is over?
I can understand why Israel doesn't want to let you in their territory but why Egypt, a fellow arabic country, doesn't want you either?