#121 Re: Off-Topic » Ukraine demonstrations » 2014-07-19 01:21:45

nämeless wrote:

because the Ukrainian officials never call it "war", they call it "counter-terrorist operation". For example, today about 40 died and over 100 wounded in the Eastern Ukraine: women, children, civilians...

just wondering, chechnya was war or counter-terrorist operation?

http://rt.com/news/chechnya-celebrates- … operation/

btw, i'm sure ukrainian officials might call it "war" if that other country that is supporting those terrorists with arms and personnel stopped denying it ;-)

#122 Re: Off-Topic » France » 2014-07-19 01:04:08

seventy wrote:

Hmmm I just wonder, let's say someone has a French mother and a father from Ghana, where does he belong, France or Ghana? And why..?

anywhere he wants given he obeys the laws of that country and tries to be an useful member of society (or at least isn't the opposite)

#123 Re: Off-Topic » Ukraine demonstrations » 2014-07-19 00:26:19

nämeless wrote:

Clear logic! Hahaha! Read again. smile

is that you, yoda? ;-)

#124 Re: Off-Topic » Ukraine demonstrations » 2014-07-19 00:22:52

Zero wrote:

Apparently this was posted on twitter before take off
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c03_1405666102

i'm sure it's fake, all passenger had their blood sucked by jewish vampires before take off, right tuia? ;-)

#125 Re: Off-Topic » Ukraine demonstrations » 2014-07-19 00:17:34

nämeless wrote:

And now read again what you said earlier:

that's why i rephrased because i reread what i wrote since i was confused by your request

"Lavrov said they don't want it => they can't contain anything useful"

#126 Re: Off-Topic » Ukraine demonstrations » 2014-07-19 00:08:59

nämeless wrote:
s[sk] wrote:
nämeless wrote:

Yes, I am waiting for the international investigation and data from these black boxes.

Lavrov said they don't want it so they can't contain anything useful

Proof?

of what? that russia doesn't want them?

http://rt.com/news/173820-ukraine-plane-black-boxes/

EDIT: oh, maybe i was vague, was trying to say that i don't think they contain any valuable information since russia said they didn't want them

#127 Re: Off-Topic » Ukraine demonstrations » 2014-07-18 23:55:36

nämeless wrote:

Yes, I am waiting for the international investigation and data from these black boxes.

Lavrov said they don't want it so they can't contain anything useful

#128 Re: Off-Topic » Ukraine demonstrations » 2014-07-18 23:50:00

nämeless wrote:

The plane's crash spot is very close to the Russian border and they at least should ask the pilots if everything is okay with the plane to pass control to another side.

steps:
1. google some map with airspace definitions
2. find out how far it was from russian airspace
3. find out what's the usual distance for requesting entrance to an airspace
4. find out what's the order of communication with ATC of airspaces you're leaving and entering

there are strict rules so you should be able to find out if anything was out of ordinary

if ukrainian ATC saw that plane on their radars and their vector and altitude was ok, i don't think they had any reason to contact them

maybe if you made those missiles slower (not like 3x sonic speed), pilots would have time to radio stuff like "umm, there's something in our rear mirror, any idea what's that?"

By the way, the plane's route was not regular on 16 and 17 of July.
http://www.kp.ru/daily/26257/3136622/

i've read it was due to thunderstorms and they were in flight corridor for civilian planes (there's finite number of flight corridors over each area)
military planes don't use them

s[sk] wrote:

not much could be heard there

NULL is also a value.

i was tempted to create an mp3 with silence but then i realized that it should contain communication with all the other planes in that airspace
i don't have that ;-)

#129 Re: Off-Topic » Ukraine demonstrations » 2014-07-18 22:47:04

i'm no aviation expert but my guess is that the communication with regional air authority happens only on entering and leaving the area
so unless they were after the point where russian ATC should have taken control, not much could be heard there

btw, listening to air traffic is a hobby of many people (as it's unencrypted AM transmission somewhere around 100-130MHz), if there was something interesting, it'd be already in news

#130 Re: Off-Topic » Ukraine demonstrations » 2014-07-18 21:33:02

tuia wrote:

She is for the "truth", that's why she quit RT and made a drama about it. smile Her tweets made me laugh: http://mashable.com/2014/07/18/sara-fir … -main-link

just shows what type of ppl works for RT

#131 Re: Off-Topic » Jews & Arab news » 2014-07-18 21:24:14

HoOK wrote:

28 Palestinians  were killed and 1 jews soldier killed in ground attack

"Israel launches ground operation in Gaza; Hamas says Israel to ‘pay a heavy price’"

#132 Re: Off-Topic » Ukraine demonstrations » 2014-07-18 21:01:27

whoever pays, she already showed her moral flexibility by working for RT ;-)

#133 Re: Off-Topic » Ukraine demonstrations » 2014-07-18 19:45:28

Zero wrote:

Hard to fire a surface to air missile while you are drunk

russians designed it, they might have considered this possibility

#134 Re: Off-Topic » Ukraine demonstrations » 2014-07-18 14:35:37

yes and they've mistaken it for Putin's plane as lifenews.ru wrote ;-)

http://lifenews.ru/news/136833

#136 Re: Off-Topic » Ukraine demonstrations » 2014-07-18 03:03:03

nämeless wrote:

Okay, I will tomorrow, when I will be at work. It's too late now.

probably no need unless there are errors in translation
you can do the fact checking ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbyZYgSXdyw

#137 Re: Off-Topic » Jews & Arab news » 2014-07-18 02:36:03

HoOK wrote:

that kit wont help against missiles

but it helps against locals ;-)

im waiting the part when jews attack by inf & tanks

haven't they yet?

#138 Re: Off-Topic » Jews & Arab news » 2014-07-18 01:57:26

HoOK wrote:

EDIT: watch the video above and tell me ur opinion

i liked that, the daily show was always funny
(the end was weak tho, if they switched the reporters, the other guy's chances to survive in gaza would be way lower)

#139 Re: Off-Topic » Jews & Arab news » 2014-07-18 01:46:14

HoOK wrote:

since when i\we care about others religion? <racist question>

when it's not about money? ;-)

#140 Re: Off-Topic » Jews & Arab news » 2014-07-18 01:25:03

HoOK wrote:
s[sk] wrote:
HoOK wrote:

make a (visa to Europe) for me and im out after i finish univeristy

wouldn't you be happier in some more peaceful arabic country?

hell no, i know some ppl from here went to norway ,Finland as a  immigration
they worked there and come back here with bags of money neutral

isn't it sad that you need to go to a country full of infidels, christians and other lowlifes to earn good money?

#141 Re: Off-Topic » Ukraine demonstrations » 2014-07-18 01:19:53

Nosferatu wrote:

Knowing that Russia gave the equipment to those terrorists (I can call them that now) makes them accessory. Action should be made here.

too early for conclusions

#142 Re: Off-Topic » Jews & Arab news » 2014-07-18 01:07:26

HoOK wrote:

make a (visa to Europe) for me and im out after i finish univeristy

wouldn't you be happier in some more peaceful arabic country?

#145 Re: Off-Topic » Ukraine demonstrations » 2014-07-17 19:59:18

separatists are saying they don't have anything that could shoot over 3km high

post from their twitter about seizing Buk got deleted

tw.jpg

https://twitter.com/dnrpress/status/483248037629018112
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s … 8112+&cd=1

doesn't prove anything tho

#146 Re: Off-Topic » Ukraine demonstrations » 2014-07-17 18:30:33

Sunshine wrote:

News here says a news group called interfax says it was shot 'at altitude" whatever that means and some say they believe it was something sounding like "book" that did it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buk_missile_system

#147 Re: Off-Topic » Ukraine demonstrations » 2014-07-17 18:09:23

those previous ones were shot down from ground if i'm not wrong, this su-25 is said to be shot from air (do the "rebels" have air force?), that commercial airliner, we have to see

#148 Re: Off-Topic » Ukraine demonstrations » 2014-07-17 18:03:52

ukrainian SU-25 shot down, Boeing 777 with 295 people onboard reportedly shot down, this is starting getting nasty

#149 Re: Off-Topic » Jews & Arab news » 2014-07-17 14:53:14

HoOK wrote:

then, why number of deaths is  still increasing

i've read a quote few days ago, kinda liked it

"We use anti-missile defense to protect our civilians, they use civilians to protect their missiles"

also read in a few articles that Hamas Interior Ministry is telling people to ignore those warnings, no idea if that's true

and why number of deaths is increasing? well, Hamas refused the cease fire proposed by Egypt (Israel accepted it) and just keeps shooting at Israel territory
but i'm sure you don't see any connection there

#150 Re: Off-Topic » Jews & Arab news » 2014-07-16 14:58:40

HoOK wrote:

When the nazies made Auschwitz, it was very easy to recognize it as a concentration camp.
When the jews build Gaza, it is not so easy to recognize what it is, a concentration camp.
You know that when the jews are bombing Gaza, its not like they can just run away from Gaza until it is over?

I can understand why Israel doesn't want to let you in their territory but why Egypt, a fellow arabic country, doesn't want you either?

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