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Of course, all these houses belongs to the terrorists... So, where is this fucking "international community" when the Palestinian citizens need them?
Last edited by nämeless (2014-07-26 23:12:33)
Of course, all these houses belongs to the terrorists... So, where is this fucking "international community" when the Palestinian citizens needs them?
They are busy with planing new air strkes
Of course, all these houses belongs to the terrorists... So, where is this fucking "international community" when the Palestinian citizens needs them?
"international community" has been bitching quite a lot about it
just didn't see anyone telling palestinians that not supporting terrorist organizations might help in the long run
nämeless wrote:Of course, all these houses belongs to the terrorists... So, where is this fucking "international community" when the Palestinian citizens needs them?
"international community" has been bitching quite a lot about it
just didn't see anyone telling palestinians that not supporting terrorist organizations might help in the long run
Dude, do you think all Palestinians are Hamas? When your country is being attacked, you don't care who is in charge, you will support whoever you believe can defend your country.
This "war" has nothing to do with Hamas. Even if all Palestinians were wearing flowers in their hair and had no guns at all, Israel would still find an excuse to get in there.
it has all to do with Hamas because they keep shooting their stupid rockets into Israeli territory, giving them an excuse for their actions
those rockets never hit anything, they're basically totally useless in any way other than trying to provoke the response
Israeli ministers agreed to extend a 12-hour truce with Hamas by four hours even as the Islamist group that rules Gaza rejected the pause and fired rockets and mortars at Israel’s south.
nämeless wrote:Of course, all these houses belongs to the terrorists... So, where is this fucking "international community" when the Palestinian citizens needs them?
"international community" has been bitching quite a lot about it
Yes, bitching! I did nothing useful.
Israeli ministers agreed to extend a 12-hour truce with Hamas by four hours even as the Islamist group that rules Gaza rejected the pause and fired rockets and mortars at Israel’s south.
Just blah blah, Israel has broken the ceasefire hundreds of times in the past whenever it suited them. They know they have the upper hand because they are militarily stronger, so they don't have to make any concessions. Unfortunately the Palestinians always make the mistake of reacting to Israels provocations, thus always giving them the excuse to "fight against terrorism" (i.e. cripple the Palestinian infrustructure, grab more land).
Just blah blah, Israel has broken the ceasefire hundreds of times in the past whenever it suited them. They know they have the upper hand because they are militarily stronger, so they don't have to make any concessions. Unfortunately the Palestinians always make the mistake of reacting to Israels provocations, thus always giving them the excuse to "fight against terrorism" (i.e. cripple the Palestinian infrustructure, grab more land).
so what's your solution? giving better weapons to hamas?
Last edited by s[sk] (2014-07-26 23:37:57)
Ideological work, education and human rights compliance are very expensive. It costs a lot of money and takes years of work.
so what's your solution? giving better weapons to hamas?
Solution would be a political solution, as I said International Law is on their side. Unfortunately they don't use it and instead want to win this by arms which they can't, so I blame them for this too.
Ideological work, education and human rights compliance are very expensive. It costs a lot of money and takes years of work.
not sure what you meant by "ideological" because imho there's ideological overflow and that's a part of the problem
i'm all for better education for palestinians
By the way, when I talk about using "force, weapons, etc.", I am not talking about indiscriminately firing rockets into some populated area or deliberately attacking or killing civilians, which is a crime, no matter if Israelis or Palestinians are doing it and that has nothing to do with self-defense.
By the way, when I talk about using "force, weapons, etc.", I am not talking about indiscriminately firing rockets into some populated area or deliberately attacking or killing civilians, which is a crime, no matter if Israelis or Palestinians are doing it and that has nothing to do with self-defense.
so what's wrong with what i'm saying that they should stop supporting hamas?
so what's wrong with what i'm saying that they should stop supporting hamas?
So why are the Israelis still supporting their government then, who are obviously responsible for far more crimes than Hamas or any other Palestinian group has ever committed?
nämeless wrote:Ideological work, education and human rights compliance are very expensive. It costs a lot of money and takes years of work.
not sure what you meant by "ideological" because imho there's ideological overflow and that's a part of the problem
i'm all for better education for palestinians
I'll try to explain what do I mean.
Here is Afghanistan in the 1960s.
http://photo-day.ru/afganistan-1960-x-godov/
imo without all this hamas rokets and shit all this confrontation would transferred to a different field, that without shooting
sometimes when i drunk and paranoya comes to me, i think that hamas may be sponsored by some Kolomoysky and many scientist work on them, having large experience they learn and improve sience the social engineering, mass psy and stuff and ways how to control public opinion and moods
in what else place of civilized word could happen so many civilians deads not engaging international involvement of peacekeeper democratic union or something, its like humanity so deep in it..
cheers
there are more countries like that
http://izismile.com/2014/02/26/a_look_a … _pics.html
but who we are to judge? they probably like it better how it's now, being islamic republics
by Mike King
Since the days of the 1947-48 "Partition" & State (aka the theft of half of Palestine),the Zionist Jews have been playing a clever hustle on not only the dispossessed Palestinians, but also upon the decent and empathetic people of the world. It's a variation of the "good cop-bad cop" interrogation technique we often see played out in detective dramas. You know how it goes: one cop shouts at the suspect like a rabid dog while his partner takes a softer approach. At times, the "good cop" will even turn against the "bad cop", ordering him to leave the room and calm down. In the simplicity of the suspect's mind, the "good cop" is thus more reasonable and trustworthy. "All cops aren't jerks. I'll talk to this one", reasons the clueless suspect.
The only difference between the 'good cop-bad cop' and 'good Jew-bad Jew' routines is that in the former, the suspect is usually guilty; whereas in the latter case, the poor Palestinians, as well as their sympathizers worldwide, are always the innocent marks of the devious Zionists.
The Zionist-Marxist Jew is an extremely cunning manipulator!
In 1948 virtually all Jews, with the exception of one Hasidic sect, applauded the creation of "the State of Israel" (bow your head in reverence as you say that). It was President Harry "Hiroshima-Nagasaki" Truman's election year payoff to the Zionists, whose reciprocal support resulted in a narrow election victory for Truman; a victory so slim that one newspaper had prematurely published the iconic 'Dewey Defeats Truman' headline.
1948: Truman gives the Zionists a 'State' - the Zionists give Truman an extremely close election victory.
The UN Partition / Truman State of 1947-48 now meant that hundreds of Arab towns and villages instantly fell under the jurisdiction of the new "State of Israel" (bow your head in reverence as you say that). No one had bothered to ask the Arabs, neither within Palestine nor outside of Palestine, for permission to subjugate the Palestinian people under Zionist rule and plop down a new non-Arab nation right in the heart of the 'Holy Land'. Understandably, the Palestinian people, who had lived there for many centuries, weren't about to just pack up and leave their farms, businesses, homes and towns. You see, they had to be "persuaded" to evacuate what had suddenly been declared to be 'Israel". Enter, from stage "far right", the "bad Jews".
The original 1947-48 Partition borders have long since been obliterated... as the 'good Jew - bad Jew' game played on!
Flashback to 1946, clandestine Jewish terror groups, such as Menachem Begin's Irgun and David Ben Gurion's Hagana committed numerous murders and bombings of the British officials. The British had taken Palestine away from the Turks as part of a dirty World War I deal they had been maneuvered into by the Zionists (We Jews will drag America into the war on your side. You Brits will capture Palestine and allow massive Jewish immigration there, after the war is over). Having gotten rid of the Ottoman Turkish control, now the ungrateful Zionists wanted the British out of Palestine! Their numerous anti-British terror acts included the killing of 91 people when the King David Hotel was blown up.
The King David Hotel bombing (aimed at the British) was dutifully "condemned" by the "good Zionists".
After the British had left and Israel was declared, these "bad Jews" began the process of "ethnic cleansing' by carrying out sickening massacres of defenseless Arab men, women, elderly, and children. The most notorious of these events of 1948 was the Massacre at Deir Yassin; an atrocity so extreme that it triggered an attack on the new State by the Arab nations of Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq. (The 1948 War). At Deir Yassin, 200 Palestinians were shot or stabbed to death by Jewish terrorists. This and other atrocities caused the Arabs to flee in terror from one village after another after another after another. And that, dear reader, is the true story of how the 'bad Jews" first chased the British protectors out of "Israeli" Palestine, and later on, the Palestinians themselves.
The Deir Yassin Massacre (and other such events) is what triggered the 'ethnic cleansing' of Palestine.
As the violent birth pangs of the terrorist 'State of Israel' (you know the routine) were reverberating throughout the region and indeed the world, the 'good Jews' made a public spectacle of disavowing terrorism. "We support the the new State of Israel. But we denounce the terrorist methods of Irgun and Hagana." declared the 'good Jews'.
In December of 1948, a group of prominent American Jews (including the overrated scientist Albert Einstein & the writer Hannah Arendt) even went so far as to publish a 'Letter to the Editor' for the Jewish owned New York Times, denouncing Begin's Irgun and Freedom Party as terrorists:
"Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine."......
"A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war....terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants (240 men, women, and children) and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin."
"The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party."
'Good Jews' publish letter condemning 'bad Jew' Menachem Begin (on right, future Prime Minister)
Strong language, BUT, the Hebraic hypocrisy of the "good Jews' of 1948 is revealed by their contradictory support for what Einstein proudly referred to as "our Israel". One can make the argument, in 2014, that two entire generations of Jews have now been born and raised in Israel; and therefore it is not realistic for them to pack up and evacuate. But in 1948, the Partition was still a straight up THEFT. If these 'good Jews' were so good, why even support "our Israel", established without any input from the Arab inhabitants, at all? Just a few decades earlier, the British had been willing to establish a Jewish homeland in a virgin portion of sunny and resource rich East Africa. Why didn't the 'good Jews' of 1948 seek to take them up on that deal now?
The British plan to set aside a piece of East Africa as a Jewish homeland was mocked by Zionists as "the Uganda Scheme". The Jews could have had rich land, more resources, and no conflict.
The 'good Jews' may have condemned the violent means by which the British were chased out and the Palestinian Arabs were uprooted; but could they really have been that naive as to believe that other means were possible? Without the extreme violence, the new State of Israel, which the 'good Jews' supported wholeheartedly, could not have come into existence. Surely, a "genius" such as Einstein must have known that.
Expecting to assume dominion over someone else's cherished land, towns, villages, farms, homes etc. without any bloodshed is like saying you want to invade someone's house without violence. It would be like a Roman Emperor of antiquity declaring: "We must conquer the barbarian nations for the glory of Rome, but I don't want any rough stuff." Come on Mr. Einstein! I realize that the great Nikola Tesla denounced you as a scientific charlatan, ("a long haired crank") but you can't possibly be that stupid!
1951: Just three years after "condemning" Israeli terrorism, 'good-Jew' (and Marxist) St. Albert Einstein laughs it up with Haganah terrorist-turned-Prime Minister David Ben Gurion. It was the 'bad Jew' Ben Gurion who engineered the false-flag killing of Jews living in Iraq. These killings frightened the Iraqi Jews into emigrating to Israel. * Ben Gurion's grand nephew, Les Moonves, is President and CEO of CBS.
Now I don't know about you folks, but if someone were to just walk into my house and announce his "peaceful" intention to assume ownership, the skull of said 'good' invader is going to meet with the business end of a crow bar, repeatedly. Unfortunately for the Palestinian farm folk, crow bars and shovels were no match for the automatic machine guns and hand grenades of the Jewish terror gangs, whose leaders later went on to become future Prime Ministers (Begin, Ben Gurion, Shamir).
So, what gives? Why the manipulative game playing? Its simple.
The Zionist Jews of the 1940's & 50's understood that if the entire race was branded as racist or pro-terrorist, it would be "bad for the Jews". Stunts such as the NY Times letter penned by Einstein, Arendt and friends served the important purpose of stating to the world, "Please don't blame the peace loving Jewish people for King David & Deir Yassin. It's only the extremists like Begin & Ben Gurion who act like that."
This type of inoculation against "anti-Semitism" always comes as a great relief to the anti-racism crowd who might otherwise have to remove their six-pointed starry-eyed blinders and see the Zionist Jews for what they truly are. With self-righteous certainty, the oh-so-relieved anti-racist can now piously declare: "You cannot blame Israel and the Jews for Palestinian persecution. There are many good Jews who oppose the extremists.".
Of course, there are Jews in Israel and America (some of whom are fans of TomatoBubble, I'm happy to report) who truly are horrified and angered over Israel's brutal oppression of the Arabs; but their number is not nearly as great as the frequent self-serving proclamations of the 'good Jews' might suggest. Apart altogether from 'good Jews' and 'bad Jews' are the 'sheeple Jews'; paranoid lost souls who see pogroms and "Holocaust" plots under every rock. They truly do believe that their lives are in constant danger from "anti-Semitic" Arabs, 'Nazis', Catholics, Tsarists, Klansmen, Martians, etc.
In the present day, we still see this 'good Jew-bad Jew' scam being played out in the public arena. There is no shortage of 'good Jews' who are critical of the 'bad Jew' Bibi Satanyahu and the brazenly genocidal deeds of his psycho Likud Party. A good example would be the recent anti-Israeli skit by the "left wing" (good Jew) host of Comedy Central, John Stewart (Liebowitz). Stewart's sarcastic mockery of Israeli 'roof knocking' (a practice by which the Israelis will so "magnimously" warn the Arabs just prior to blowing up their homes) drew the ire of the "right wing" neo-cons such as nationally syndicated radio host Mark Levin (bad Jews).
But Stewart and other "good Jews' will never condemn the hunger blockading of Gaza, nor mention the illegal use of White Phosphorous bombs, nor talk about the harvesting of Palestinian organs for sale on the Black Market, nor advocate for a return to the original 1948 (aka pre 1967) Partition borders, nor call for the arrest and trial of Israeli war criminals past and present, and nor will they ever even come close to acknowledging the full scope of the historical and non-stop abuse of the Palestinians. As for the 'good Jews' in the Israeli Knesset and the U.S. Congress, the strongest language they can muster is, "We call upon both sides to engage in dialogue and find a peaceful solution."
The 'good Jew' Stewart-Liebowitz (left) did a funny anti-Israeli routine, but he remains silent on the big picture while still slipping in some anti-Palestinian propaganda. The 'bad Jew' Levin then took Stewart to task for being a 'self hating Jew'.
Let's make an analogy to 'good bystander-bad bystander', an imaginary situation in which an innocent little old lady is being mercilessly beaten by a muscular, drug crazed, violent street thug:
"Bad Bystander": "Ha. Ha. This is fun to watch. Beat that old bitch some more."
"Good Bystander": "This is a tragedy. I call on upon both sides to stop the violence and resume talks."
There is also a variation of motive to the 'good Jew - bad Jew' game; in which the Jewish anger towards the "hard liners" is sincere, but motivated by selfish reasons. In this scenario, the "good Jew" is upset with Bibi Satanyahu's violent recklessness, not out of any love or empathy for the poor bombed out Palestinians, but solely because he fears that by taking too hard of a line, the Likud Party Zionists may trigger worldwide condemnation of Israel and even, -gasp- "anti-Semitism".
If we were flies on the wall of a Tel Aviv Synagogue, we might overhear a heated conversation between Satanyahu and a 'good Jew' go like this:
'Good Jew' (GJ): "Oy vey Bibi! What the hell are you doing in Gaza? You've got the whole world hating Jews again!"
Satanyahu: "Calm down Ari. We own America. You think that queer swartza in the White House is going to stop us?"
(GJ): "No. I will not calm down! Have you seen the protests in Paris, Berlin, and London? You want another Holocaust?"
Satanyahu: "Europe has always been anti-Semitic. What do I care? We have nukes now."
(GJ): "And what about our wholly owned Arab puppets? If you keep this up in Gaza, all of our moderate Arab friends in the Middle East will be forced to run for cover. We'll never get to a New World Order."
Satanyahu: "That's exactly what I want. If radical regimes come to power in places like Egypt and Iraq, the U.S. will be forced to blow up the region. That's when we make our big move. We expand from the Nile to the Euprates baby! World Government can come later."
(GJ): "It's too soon Bibi. It's too risky. Just let the Arab animals stay in Gaza for now. We've already got the hunger blockade on them."
Satanyahu: "We've waited long enough. Now we strike! Grow a pair Ari!"
(GJ): "You are meshuganah (crazy) Bibi! You know that? 100% certified meshuganah!"
Satanyahu: "Ari, my dear friend. What you call 'meshuganah', I call chutzpah! How are Miriam and the kids doing by the way?"
(GJ): "Oh, everyone is doing great. Isaac's Bar Mitzvah is next week."
Satanyahu: "Oy vey! How time flies! Shalom my friend."
(GJ): "Shalom."
*
So you see, no where in the expressed "concerns" of such a 'good Jew' is there ever any true empathy for the thousands of innocent people killed or maimed by Satanyahu and his neo-con allies. Crocodile tears notwithstanding, the great "debate" is never really about the victims, even it does sound sincere at times. No, the debate is only about, and always about, "what's good for the Jews". And that is why the 45 year old circle-jerk known as "The Middle East Peace Process" is a sick and twisted joke played upon the Palestinians, as well as the naive do-gooders who continue to place their trust in 'the good Jews'.
'Good Jew' and former US Secretary of State Madeline Albright has publicly criticized 'bad Jew' Netanyahu for making Israel look bad. Recall that this is the same woman who, on the show '60 Minutes' once said that the death of 1 million Iraqi's "was worth it"!
The Jewess Albright often played the related game of 'creating moral equivalence where there is none' - such as once equating the legitimate complaints of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat with the monstrous lies of Bibi Satanyahu. Said 'good-Jew' Albright in 1998: "I am sick and tired of hearing you (Arafat & Netanyahu) give me a pile full of complaints about the other guy. That is not going to help us get to the point where we can make tough decisions."
Arafat later died of poisoning (here), evidently at the hands of 'the bad jews' (Mossad). Of course, the 'good Jews' are very quick to dismiss even the suggestion of murder as 'conspiracy theory'.
nämeless wrote:Of course, all these houses belongs to the terrorists... So, where is this fucking "international community" when the Palestinian citizens needs them?
They are busy with planing new air strkes
typical eastern europe talk, god u should deserve a bullet. Scum
why am I not surprised that these peace loving innocent Hamas are even shunned by every other Arab state....lol
Because every Arab state has their own agenda.
or maybe because they realize that Hamas make normal Arabs look medieval
Sure, that's why of all Arab states Saudi Arabia is the West's best friend. Because they are so much more modern than Hamas.
or maybe because they realize that Hamas make normal Arabs look medieval
How could you be normal when others make you live that way?
Palestine doesn't have its own army, a group of people got sick of the zionist terrorism, joined hands and stood up to protect themselves n the people of Palestine...so whats wrong in this when they respond back with a few small rockets which barely do any damage after those filthy zionist massacre their innocent children n women?
what will u do when u ur country doesnt have an army of its own? wont u stand up for ur people? thats what hamas is doing n u call em terrorists?
there's a big diff b/w the terrorist groups like boko isis n the other shit someone mentioned above..those groups are terrorist, they r simply killing innocent people n using the name of Islam thouigh they have nothing to do with it, they are just paid terrorists! if they truly were muslims, they wont be killing innocent people, other fellow muslims n blowing up their own mosques in which they are supposed to pray and supplicate to GOD!!
they call themselves muslims yet work on the zionist propaganda, i.e get rid of the arabs n muslims...if they were so called muslims their guns would be facing israel n other muslims countries..
u tell me why would u turn ur gun to your own brother when he hasnt done anything wrong to u??
if u still dont get it then i can only pray that may God bless u n may He open up your eyes n make u realize what is actually going on..
hammas operation behind enemy lines !!!!!!!!!!
wooow that made my day
GAZA: 1279 were killed, about 6000 got injured (30% of injured means: person lost his arm or leg etc...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NAhozItSq0
EDIT: 1279
Last edited by HoOK (2014-07-29 23:29:27)
so israel says they won't leave gaza until they destroy all the tunnels because they find them dangerous and you use them to do some 4v1 and kidnap a gun?
great idea, congrats, if it wasn't you who posted it, i might think it's israeli propaganda fake video to justify their actions
Last edited by s[sk] (2014-07-29 22:07:34)
you are funny
there was more behind tower..
you forgot the 1279 to talk about 1 soldier??!
EDIT: 1279
Last edited by HoOK (2014-07-29 23:29:07)
They can say whatever they want, largest attack, killing civilians ,kids, burning down mosques on muslims holly day, that must be all just a coincidence - in brainwashed head
They can say whatever they want, largest attack, killing civilians ,kids, burning down mosques on muslims holly day, that must be all just a coincidence - in brainwashed head
I agree.
So what. Just like the Jom Kippur War.
@ Hook and the rest of the non-"brainwashed" semi-educated simple minds :
Israel says they want to get rid of Hamas abilities to attack Israel. Hamas uses tunnels and rockets to attack. Hamas launches those rockets from populated areas and uses civilians as cover plus civilian buildings as depots for its weapons. What a surprise that Palestinian civilians get killed (even though the Israeli forces are warning the inhabitants, not always, but they do) and civil buildings get destroyed. Civilians get killed, Hamas celebrates them as martyrs but doesn't even think about stopping the "human shield" tactic. Terrible to see that Gaza is poor, but still uses ressources to produce or buy rockets and tunnels (which lead to random civilian casualties and a few dead soldiers but have no fucking effect but more harm for the Palestinians). Poor people of Gaza, held hostage by religious fascists.
But Hook, you celebrate a little raid which has way worse consequences for Palestinians than it has for Israel. Logic ain't your best friend.
Btw, if this would be a "genocide", it would the most unprofessional genocide in history. Does anybody think there would be "only" 1300 victims (after more than 5000 attacks) if the IDF would try to kill as many Palestinians as possible ?
And why do Israeli officials say "53 dead soldiers + 10 dead civilians" on their side, but the Hamas only says "1300 dead" ? Not a single Hamas fighter killed ?