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joint

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Re: World War III

Admins, don't you think that even in such a sensitive topic, insulting an opponent is a violation of forum rules? The rhetoric of Simon, Insane and Joint has long gone beyond civilized communication, and yet they imagine themselves to be real civilized Europeans.

I do loosing civility lately, ok i am shutting up. Continue your deep conversation.

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Admins, don't you think that even in such a sensitive topic, insulting an opponent is a violation of forum rules? The rhetoric of Simon, Insane and Joint has long gone beyond civilized communication, and yet they imagine themselves to be real civilized Europeans.

Here z-pussy, you've dropped something

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True. civilized people attack another country with weapons and support the idea of it. The inuslt words uttered here are out of line

None of this would have happened if modern Ukraine had not chosen Nazis and SS-sheep as its ideologists and heroes, and would not have destroyed the memory of those thanks to whom Ukraine now has civilization (roads, industry, agriculture, etc.  ).  Well, what kind of villains do you have to be in order to destroy the memory of grandfathers and fathers, betray their achievements and shed blood, voluntarily giving everything to their enemies?!

Russia tolerated this until the Ukrainian regime began to physically eliminate those who disagreed with this state of affairs!  (in accordance with the precepts of the ideologists of this Ukrainian regime)

Here is a little history in the posters of those times, and it immediately becomes clear who is who, and what Russia is fighting right now (it's amazing how the Europeans were brainwashed that they don't see this, they support the coming out Nazis, thereby also betraying the memory of their ancestors  who fought against fascism):

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Ничего этого бы не было, если бы современная Украина не выбрала бы своими идеологами и героями нацистов и сс-овцев, и не уничтожала бы память о тех, благодаря кому на Украине сейчас есть цивилизация (дороги, промышленность, сельское хозяйство и т.д.). Это ж какими негодяями надо быть, чтобы уничтожить память дедов и отцов, предать их достижения и пролитую кровь, добровольно отдав всё их врагам?!

Россия терпела это до тех пор, пока украинский режим не начал физически устранять несогласных с таким положением дел! (в соответствии с заветами идеологов этого украинского режима)

Вот немного истории в плакатах тех времен, и сразу становится ясно - кто есть кто, и с чем именно сейчас борется Россия (удивительно, как европейцам промыли мозги, что они не видят этого, поддерживают укро-нацистов, тем самым тоже предавая память своих предков, которые сражались с фашизмом).

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Шутка от Григоия Германа:
«Русские разработали сверх-интеллигентную «нет аналогов в мире» супертанк- АРМАТА.
Но танк оказался на много интеллигентнее мобиков и отказался идти на фронт»

Joke from Grigori German:
“Russians created super-intelligent (no analogues) supertank - ARMATA.
Seems that the tank is much more intelligent than most of Russian soldiers - it doesn’t want to go to the frontline “

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Man, I can't hold and not post this xD
https://youtu.be/-opSlCGLGQ4

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Re: World War III

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Between they send T-54 and T-55 to the front.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1638481590920544257

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+Dima+

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Between they send T-54 and T-55 to the front.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1638481590920544257

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Everything is even worse. The information is absolutely true. After all, sources in Western media can always be trusted, this is not Russian propaganda.

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But just like with your invasion starting from 2014 it is a matter of time when we'll see some more cases.

prisoners on both sides say on video what they are forced to say. Isn't it obvious?
There was a lot same propaganda shit from Ukraine prisoners, especially about tanks with welded hatches.

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https://youtu.be/ggyRVLHmi8Q

I have long wanted to ask Ukrainians what their national slogans symbolize? For example, a rally attended by tens of thousands of people. At what not some ultras, but ordinary people. The whole crowd is chanting - "Glory to Ukraine. Glory to the heroes", this, for those unfamiliar with history, is a copy from the fascist greeting from the time of Hitler - "Heil Hitler! Sieg Heil!" (Glory to Hitler! Glory to Victory!). And they also shout "Ukraine above all", which, surprisingly, is also an exact copy of the Nazi slogan and the first line of the German anthem from the time of Hitler "Deutschland über alles" (Germany above all). But there is no Nazism in Ukraine, we all know this, so this is of course just a coincidence, ok. But the last slogan that all these people shout is the most interesting - "Death to enemies." Let me remind you that this rally was on October 15, 2013. There was no Maidan yet, there was no war in the Dobass, Crimea is still Ukrainian and Russia has not attacked Ukraine. Then who are the enemies of these wonderful people and to whom they wish death?

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prisoners on both sides say on video what they are forced to say. Isn't it obvious?...

Don't mess it all together. It's you who execute people, Ukrainians as well as your own.
We're attempting to join EU not ruzzia and we are obliged to follow some rules towards the POWs.
Here's an example form you how the interviews with your POWs are done by the Ukrainian side. People are asked if they agree for their interview to be published etc.
https://youtu.be/x5lfn_y-oTE

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I have long wanted to ask Ukrainians what their national slogans symbolize? ...

Dima read some Ukrainian history and not your bullshit propaganda, maybe Ukrainian literature to understand our culture.
Glory to Ukraine or Ukrainian Glory is mentioned in 1860's in Taras Shevchenko's poem "Kobzar" and in Pavlo Chubynsky's (another Ukrainian poet which you of course don't know about) poem "Hasn't yet perished Ukraine" which has become our national anthem.
And these are just the most famous examples.

In "Ukraine above all" or "Україна понад усе" the word "усе" means "everything".
So apparently for you, it means Ukraine above everything you have, your country first then you. Those are words of self dedication to your country.

But you of course knew it, you're just a sneaky shit trying to post it like it's some supremacy statement.

You ruzzians are doing this all the time, lying, messing up our history and a generation after a generation of the ruzzians are brainwashed and can't think of something beyond what is broadcasted into your brain by your propaganda for years since you were born.

So next time, you ruzzian trash, don't call for momma admin after you insult my country and my people while your vatnik hordes are pillaging my land and killing my people.

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Re: World War III

Classic, if there are no arguments and facts, start insulting your opponent. There is a wonderful expression: propaganda does not make idiots out of people, it is originally designed for idiots. insane is a perfect example of this.

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Dima why the fuck does it concern you if they are proud of their country and yell those slogans. It has nothing to do with you. I'm glad everyone can now see how russians think that they are allowed to intervene in another country, in other peoples lives

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Insane!

Tell me, please, what are you fighting for?
What future do you see for yourself, for your country?

What is all this for?

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Скажи, пожалуйста, а за что вы воюете?
Какое будущее видите для себя, для своей страны?

Ради чего всё это?

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Classic, if there are no arguments and facts, start insulting your opponent. There is a wonderful expression: propaganda does not make idiots out of people, it is originally designed for idiots. insane is a perfect example of this.

This is not a genteel conversation at a ball and none of you war supporters and justifiers is a decent person to start with.
So complain and cry more about insults after you z-tards were insulting my Ukrainians for months since the start of the invasion of your shithole country into my land.
Don't forget to stock up some napkins.

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Dima why the fuck does it concern you if they are proud of their country and yell those slogans. It has nothing to do with you. I'm glad everyone can now see how russians think that they are allowed to intervene in another country, in other peoples lives

Everything is simple here.

Ukraine is not a country, not a state, but an artificially created entity (due to the cultivation of internal nationalism and Western money) aimed at weakening Russia.  This is what Dima is trying to say - that the Nazis were coming out and called for violence against the Russians even before 2014 (from here it can be seen - for the sake of which modern Ukraine was created by the West).

Since Russia is not ready to weaken, it is forced to eliminate this artificial formation (denazify and demilitarize).

This is not an invasion of another state (since there is no state), but the elimination of the threat and the restoration of control over their territories, which were lost / stolen during the collapse of the USSR in 1991.

If the Ukrainian regime had not made a coup d'état in 2014 and had not destroyed people and the memory of their ancestors, then there would have been no bloodshed.

Therefore, it all began not as a war, but as a special operation.  It became a war when Western countries came to the aid of the Ukrainian regime (in people, technology, intelligence, weapons and money).  Moreover, this is not a war with Ukraine, but with the entire Western world, which is still afraid to oppose Russia directly, but uses Ukrainians as cannon fodder (a kind of utilization of the Slavs).

Poor Ukrainians... :-(

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Тут всё просто.

Украина - это не страна, не государство, а искусственно созданное образование (за счет культивирования внутреннего национализма и западных денег), направленное на ослабление России. Об этом Дима и пытается сказать - что укро-нацисты митинговали и призывали к насилию против русских еще до 2014 года (отсюда видно - ради чего создавалась западом современная Украина).

Так как Россия не готова ослабляться, то она вынуждена устранить это искусственное образование (денацифицировать и демилитаризовать).

Это - не вторжение в иное государство (так как государства нет), а устранение угрозы и восстановление контроля над своими территориями, которые были потеряны/украдены во время развала СССР в 1991.

Если бы Украинский режим не совершил госпереворот в 2014, и не уничтожал людей и память предков, то не было бы никакого кровопролития.

Поэтому это всё начиналось не как война, а как спецоперация. Войной это стало тогда, когда на помощь украинскому режиму пришли западные страны (людьми, технологиями, разведдаными, оружием и деньгами). Причем это война не с Украиной, а со всем западным миром, который пока что боится выступить против России напрямую, а использует украинцев как пушечное мясо (этакая утилизация славян).

Бедные украинцы… :-(

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Re: World War III

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Dude, ... whatever you smoke, ... you should stop with it

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You z-tards can interpret Ukrainian slogans the way you like, it won't justify your war.
So apparently soviets were also nazi ?

"To the best friend of the children (left side)
... great stalin, glory!" (Right side)
Just anywhere any sphere of their life - "glory to stalin".

"Glory to the great stalin the creator of the constitution of the USSR"

Bloody nazis they've infiltrated into your z-tarded brain.

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We're attempting to join EU not ruzzia and we are obliged to follow some rules towards the POWs.

And you are not embarrassed by the facts of executions of Russian prisoners of war by Ukraine, which were recorded and confirmed by the UN?
There is no need to be brazenly hypocritical here, violations are coming from both sides, and propaganda and the rotten information war are also mutual.

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We're attempting to join EU not ruzzia and we are obliged to follow some rules towards the POWs.

And you are not embarrassed by the facts of executions of Russian prisoners of war by Ukraine, which were recorded and confirmed by the UN?
There is no need to be brazenly hypocritical here, violations are coming from both sides, and propaganda and the rotten information war are also mutual.

Again, you've lost the main point.
Or actually you're trying to shift the focus.
We're attempting to join EU, so of course the cases which you're referring to and the people responsible are going to be punished.
That's why the soldier from the last case tried to justify his actions in fear of the responsibility.
On the other hand your russian animals who for example from the case of the castration and execution of the Ukrainian soldier, or those who killed another one after he said "Glory to Ukraine", won't be of course punished by your shit hole country.
And lastly don't forget who you defend, and invader shit hole ruzzia. Don't try to compare us and stop smearing the colours here.

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Karlson "And you are not embarrassed by the facts of executions of Russian prisoners of war by Ukraine, which were recorded and confirmed by the UN?
There is no need to be brazenly hypocritical here, violations are coming from both sides, and propaganda and the rotten information war are also mutual."

Heard about that too. But nobody is talking about that. Propaganda is mutual, most sane people in Germany are again the delivery of weapons and tanks, this is not the way to stop the war. Some will say that Putin is insane, you can't talk with him. This is not true, he wanted to talk but the puppet Selenski was convinced by Johnson no to talk with Putin. Even big officiers say that nobody can win this war. Insead of escalating, this war has to stop. The only way is diplomacy.

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... The only way is diplomacy.

So you say that if someone enters your house and occupies a living room. He says he is up to set it all peacefully. Then you'd think like "ok if I offer him to keep my living room he'd be satisfied and we'd have well.. peace so to say". Am I right?

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... The only way is diplomacy.

So you say that if someone enters your house and occupies a living room. He says he is up to set it all peacefully. Then you'd think like "ok if I offer him to keep my living room he'd be satisfied and we'd have well.. peace so to say". Am I right?

And if this is not your house, and not your living room?
And you just stole it from someone who came to return it?
And you stole it in order to resell the real owner to the enemy?

By the way - why are you in the EU?
To walk in lace panties?  :-)

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А если это не твой дом, и не твоя гостиная?
А ты просто украл это у того, кто пришел это вернуть?
И украл ты это для того, чтобы перепродать врагу хозяина этого дома?

Кстати - зачем вам в ЕС?
Чтобы в кружевных трусиках ходить? :-)

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... The only way is diplomacy.

So you say that if someone enters your house and occupies a living room. He says he is up to set it all peacefully. Then you'd think like "ok if I offer him to keep my living room he'd be satisfied and we'd have well.. peace so to say". Am I right?

cockoldism is strong among them

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So you say that if someone enters your house and occupies a living room. He says he is up to set it all peacefully. Then you'd think like "ok if I offer him to keep my living room he'd be satisfied and we'd have well.. peace so to say". Am I right?

Not correct comparsion.
You can't win vs country with nuclear weapon. Take is as a fact. That's sad, but it is.

Again, you've lost the main point.
Or actually you're trying to shift the focus.

No, im not losing main point or shifting focus.

We're attempting to join EU not ruzzia and we are obliged to follow some rules towards the POWs.

You say that Ukranian army following "some rules" and you are liying.

Thats what i saying.

By the way - why are you in the EU?
To walk in lace panties?  :-)

It's not your bussiness.

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So you say that if someone enters your house and occupies a living room. He says he is up to set it all peacefully. Then you'd think like "ok if I offer him to keep my living room he'd be satisfied and we'd have well.. peace so to say". Am I right?

Not correct comparsion.
You can't win vs country with nuclear weapon. Take is as a fact. That's sad, but it is.

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You say that Ukranian army following "some rules" and you are liying.

Thats what i saying.

Yes, our army is following the Geneva convention, not "some rules". I have shown you how we treat POWs, there are more videos you can look up.
As I already said there are some cases and they will be investigated.

Your use of the nukes will lead to the response you don't want.
Don't try and sell me the bullshit about your shit hole of a country is not engaging for 100%, it simply can't.

You know it all of course, just playing your act of an "adequate russian". Which you're not and I've explained why.

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By the way - why are you in the EU?
To walk in lace panties?  :-)

It's not your bussiness.

I didn't ask you.

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Я не тебя спрашивал.

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https://youtu.be/5R6Fy6WDW0E

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Re: World War III

1. I dont hate Russia at all, but there are different "Russias" sadly most modern Ukrainians familiar most with the shit side of it:(

2. history is looping and rools back indeed
https://www.jstor.org/stable/27668587
how nazi propahanda justify Poland invasion - resembling something eh?
surely most of Germans were thinking they do good stuff, and people like Karlson were in minority and were treated like traitors, Russian wardogs dont hide that after Ukraine they target Poland, they say it will be much harsher because they arent "brothers" same as Hitler didnt feel sorry about Slavs as he feel for European "brothers"

3. why Russian empire dont like Ukraine, difference between registered сossacks and "free cossacks"? 
(rus lang)
https://youtu.be/VeGzmQc3l8Y?t=4632
freedom or death is not just words, you dont like some slogans? we dont like your face, go to court or send nukes, whatever.

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freedom or death is not just words.

Wow, so pathetic. And you also laugh at Russian propaganda without seeing how brainwashed you are.

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So you say that if someone enters your house and occupies a living room. He says he is up to set it all peacefully. Then you'd think like "ok if I offer him to keep my living room he'd be satisfied and we'd have well.. peace so to say". Am I right?

Not correct comparsion.
You can't win vs country with nuclear weapon. Take is as a fact. That's sad, but it is.

...
You say that Ukranian army following "some rules" and you are liying.

Thats what i saying.

Yes, our army is following the Geneva convention, not "some rules". I have shown you how we treat POWs, there are more videos you can look up.
As I already said there are some cases and they will be investigated.

Your use of the nukes will lead to the response you don't want.
Don't try and sell me the bullshit about your shit hole of a country is not engaging for 100%, it simply can't.

You know it all of course, just playing your act of an "adequate russian". Which you're not and I've explained why.

If you are interested in at least part of the truth about the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in relation to Russian prisoners, then enter Volker Türk (this is the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights) in the search engine, and look in the news for what he officially says on this issue.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/statements/202 … just-peace

And this is only a small part of the truth.  It does not cover the executions of wounded prisoners, filmed on video, or the brutal murder of a prisoner with his hands tied with a knife in the eye, also filmed on video by your "warrior of light", and much more ...

As Karlson correctly writes, these are mutual crimes.

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Если тебе интересна хотя бы часть правды о действиях ВСУ в отношении российских пленных, то введи в поисковике Volker Türk (это Верховный комиссар Организации Объединенных Наций по правам человека), и посмотри в новостях, что он официально говорит по этому вопросу.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/statements/202 … just-peace

И это - только малая часть правды. Там не освещаются расстрелы раненных пленных, снятые на видео, или жестокое убийство пленного со связанными руками ножом в глаз, так же снятое на видео вашим «воином света», и много чего ещё…

Как правильно пишет Карлсон - это обоюдные преступления.

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