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Zody

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Re: World War III

Of course, no one will tell you about this, because the inconvenient truth.

It was in the news here. Nobody tried to hide anything. If you build up a massive army at the border of a neighboring country, your claims that they started it are really hard to believe.

No, the government of Ukraine is to blame for this, which decided to be "friends" with the United States. The United States had manners, as Simon would say.
If you do not agree with this, then I have a question for you: if Russia "just like that" attacked Ukraine, why did it not attack Belarus, Kazakhstan, Mongolia,
Caucasian countries? all these countries are weaker than the Ukrainian army
I'm looking forward to your reply bro

Putin fears a country at his border that is so closely tied to his own, culturally, socially and so on, that becomes an example of a democracy that works. He had to put an end to it. The first step was taken in 2014 and this war is intended to finish the job. All for one man to hold on to power.

simon

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Re: World War III

/The United States had manners, as Simon would say./

?
There is a difference between a state and a soldier. Russia as a country has completely other reasons to fight than the soldiers on the front. A state does not actually care about tattooed people, while soldiers and regular people are on a lower level and generate all sorts of stupid shit to fight against and for.
So when I talk about manners, it's solely on human level

ziba128

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Re: World War III

February 21, 2022 - Ukraine creates Casus Belli:

5:58 - attack of the DRG of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and 2 infantry fighting vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine across the border of the Russian Federation in the area of the village of Mityakinskaya, Rostov Region. The Rostov region is the territory of Russia, think about it.

09:50 - destruction of the border checkpoint of the Russian Federation at the Shcherbakovo farm by artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine; - This is also the territory of Russia. think about it (2).

Of course, no one will tell you about this, because the inconvenient truth.

nämeless

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Re: World War III

...

Since several weeks you try hard to serve justifications for this war of aggression.

It's not working.

Everyone can find everywhere some people with Nazi Tattoos.

Btw. The really dangerous people on this world do not have Tattoos.

...

It took me 10 seconds to find some of them:

https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-neo-naz … 71760.html

I'd better post this link in regard to this person. He's a sadist who started from killing dogs and in 2014 he's gone to Ukraine because he got a chance to kill Ukrainian militants. I completely agree he's total nuts and a disgusting person. But a person, not tens of thousands like him in Ukraine, supported by the Ukrainian government.

https://kado4nikov.livejournal.com/30769.html

s border that is so closely tied to his own, culturally, socially and so on, that becomes an example of a democracy that works.

The big problem and probably the bigger irony is that Ukraine had the best condition of its democracy, economy and people's rights before the revolution in 2013. After the revolution, Ukraine became the most totalitarian and despotic country the Europe ever seen in the past decades.

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persia

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Re: World War III

Putin fears a country at his border that is so closely tied to his own, culturally, socially and so on, that becomes an example of a democracy that works. He had to put an end to it.

please give specific examples, I'm wildly interested!

He had to put an end to it. The first step was taken in 2014

Since you are such a connoisseur of history and politics, could you tell us something about what was located on the territory that joined Russia in 2014?

Zody

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Re: World War III

Im really not interested in talking to you. 2014 was discussed enough. there is no sense in debating it again. This thread is also not about it. This is about Russia attacking Ukraine. Russia murdering Civilians. Russia bombing cities and villages in Ukraine. Russia committing war crimes in Ukraine.

persia

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Re: World War III

Im really not interested in talking to you.

not really interesting lol
you do not understand anything about what you write about, so any of my additional questions about the topic and you look like a loser. Also, you accused NMT of avoiding answers...

2014 was discussed enough. there is no sense in debating it again. This thread is also not about it.

this sentence fully shows your real knowledge, which is at the near-zero level.
If you don't get the connection between Crimea, the russian navy base, nato, then of the two of us, I have to stop talking to the man - news person without critical thinking

joint

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Re: World War III

Imagine it was place youre living, persia, and somebody told you that it all had be done because you dont want to be a friend and obey to brother Bidens good will and could attack Australia in near future, just wonder what would you said about such justification
https://youtu.be/WF4GY4oDg3U

Zody

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Re: World War III

Im really not interested in talking to you.

not really interesting lol
you do not understand anything about what you write about, so any of my additional questions about the topic and you look like a loser. Also, you accused NMT of avoiding answers...

2014 was discussed enough. there is no sense in debating it again. This thread is also not about it.

this sentence fully shows your real knowledge, which is at the near-zero level.
If you don't get the connection between Crimea, the russian navy base, nato, then of the two of us, I have to stop talking to the man - news person without critical thinking

Thats why I said Im not interested in talking to you. I havent even done the things you accuse me of in this post. Why would I be interested in having a discussion with you if your sole purpose is to destroy it? For you, this is another battlefield for Mother Russia, for me its just another discussion. Get the difference?

persia

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Re: World War III

Get the difference?

yes i already writed about this:

you do not understand anything about what you write about, so any of my additional questions about the topic and you look like a loser.

why start a discussion if you are in this discussion a complete zero?

persia

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Imagine it was place youre living, persia, and somebody told you that it all had be done because you dont want to be a friend and obey to brother Bidens good will and could attack Australia in near future, just wonder what would you said about such justification
https://youtu.be/WF4GY4oDg3U

I already wrote to you about this in the Russian topic

Zody

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Re: World War III

Get the difference?

yes i already writed about this:

you do not understand anything about what you write about, so any of my additional questions about the topic and you look like a loser.

why start a discussion if you are in this discussion a complete zero?

Im just not interested to talk to someone who only uses insults, whataboutisms and strawman arguments for the sole purpose of destroying the discussion. If you are done discrediting anyone who disagrees with you, we can have a proper discussion again. You want to win, you dont want to participate.

You come across as not in the right mind atm. Prolly best for you to take a break from all this. This applies to others in here aswell.

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joint

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Imagine it was place youre living, persia, and somebody told you that it all had be done because you dont want to be a friend and obey to brother Bidens good will and could attack Australia in near future, just wonder what would you said about such justification
https://youtu.be/WF4GY4oDg3U

I already wrote to you about this in the Russian topic

Dont see.
Im saying that if you really think that your government doing good, then its like all by Orwell indeed.

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persia

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Re: World War III

I have nothing to say to

ok

Dont see.
Im saying that if you really think that your government doing good, then its like all by Orwell indeed.

Тут большие дяди(не зеля) играют в большие игры и при этом ВСЕГДА будет страдать обычный люд - это неизбежно. Сегодня это вы.

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joint

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Re: World War III

I have nothing to say to

ok

Dont see.
Im saying that if you really think that your government doing good, then its like all by Orwell indeed.

Тут большие дяди(не зеля) играют в большие игры и при этом ВСЕГДА будет страдать обычный люд - это неизбежно. Сегодня это вы.

So you are against the war and russian invasion, or youre good with suffering of ordinary people?

persia

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So you are against the war and russian invasion, or youre good with suffering of ordinary people?

this is called a pseudo choice and most importantly, my adn your opinion doesnt matter in this case

Zody

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Re: World War III

I have nothing to say to

ok

Dont see.
Im saying that if you really think that your government doing good, then its like all by Orwell indeed.

Тут большие дяди(не зеля) играют в большие игры и при этом ВСЕГДА будет страдать обычный люд - это неизбежно. Сегодня это вы.

So you are against the war and russian invasion, or youre good with suffering of ordinary people?

Did you expect a genuine answer?

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joint

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Re: World War III

Yes, still hope to get a genuine answer.
Persia, first part of my question was pretty fair and its simple as 'yes' or 'no',
do you support your government in part where it sends army attack Ukraine?

simon

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Re: World War III

yes, a pseudo topic. Persia's opinion doesn't matter as he says, that's why he made about 40 posts in this topic..
If you ask a russian 'do you support killing of ukrainians?', it will create a short circuit in their mind because they actually do support killing them, but it is not proper to say it in discussions, it will end all arguments and destroy their reputation
And in 1986 nothing happened in chernobyl... until sweden detected unusally high levels of radiation, that's how things still work in modern russia too. If someone here thinks that todays russia is somehow different from the soviet russia, go and see for yourself, visit russia.

persia

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Re: World War III

Yes, still hope to get a genuine answer.
Persia, first part of my question was pretty fair and its simple as 'yes' or 'no',
do you support your government in part where it sends army attack Ukraine?

There is a confrontation between the United States and Russia, on the territory of Ukraine. Of course I'm on the side of my country. This is obvious from what I write here
This will sound wild for a person who believes that Russian troops raped entire villages

yes, a pseudo topic. Persia's opinion doesn't matter as he says, that's why he made about 40 posts in this topic.. .

I explain for Estonians: most of my posts here are statements of facts. my subjectivity is extremely small here
I know it's very difficult for you, zody,  casca and others like to understand, so I'll give you an example:

i think fighters Azov will win - this is an opinion
fighters Azov were taken prisoner - these ar facts
What other obvious things should I explain to you, my little friend?

If you ask a russian 'do you support killing of ukrainians?', it will create a short circuit in their mind

of course it will cause a short circuit. Because only an stupid can ask such a question

amazing, but every time your posts cause shame and before it was funny

simon

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Re: World War III

Ok, you're posting only facts and I am stupid

persia

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Re: World War III

only facts

most of my posts

the very moment when the irony did not work out

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joint

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Re: World War III

Persia, do you even distinguish your country from your government?  "im on the side of my country" means nothing, its a real platitude.  My question still is
Do you support your GOVERNMENT in sending troops fight against America in Ukraine? Frickin say it already be a man

Zwarrior

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Re: World War III

After 100 days of conflicts with more than 30.000 soldiers dead including their most important generals + the best sniper they had. Now they are saying that they are just facing the EEUU, the EEUU !! Its a bad joke. That brainwashing tv show they watch works very well, sadly.

persia

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Persia, do you even distinguish your country from your government?

No, they are part of the country.
You have same,  don't matter  whether you like it or not
for example, a husband and wife are constantly fighting, but they can unite at the moment of a common problem

Do you support your GOVERNMENT in sending troops fight against America in Ukraine?

yes

simon

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Re: World War III

Amazing answers persia, thank you for that.

joint

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Persia, do you even distinguish your country from your government?

No, they are part of the country.
You have same,  don't matter  whether you like it or not
for example, a husband and wife are constantly fighting, but they can unite at the moment of a common problem

Do you support your GOVERNMENT in sending troops fight against America in Ukraine?

yes

This is sad, nothing more to say nor more questions i have

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHzPray … heGuardian
for Persia and nameleSS

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Re: World War III

The evil Russian barbarians forced the peaceful defensive block to constantly expand to their borders !

Zody

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Re: World War III

Why 2016? Montenegro joined in 2017. Why did this Russian publication choose to display 2016 on the right?

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