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Hi all and specially to Ukraine friends,
We are all watching situation in Ukraine, so maybe to hear from joint or other Ukraine friends what is happening there.
In western media (which is dominantly represented in my country) there is typically western news - Ukraine's wants to be part of EU, but their president and current government are corrupted and want stricter connection with Russian federation (trading).
What are your thoughts on current Ukraine situation?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH5sDDh71WE
Here is the most rated comment for this video.
Aleks Kevyn
Russian Tv liying like the machine... 7 protesters killed, but these scrumbags talk about the "violent policemen"... Who believe in you russians? Go Ukraine! We're with you against the corrupts and hudden agressors (like Russia)!!!
Another video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0ad7RQz6OQ
Plato86
Once again RT shows it is a propaganda arm for the Putin regime. They love to talk about "right-wing radicals" in the Ukraine but what about the far right activist beating gays in the streets of Moscow? Oh, and I love how RT plays the Anti-Semitism card. Funny how RT does not play the anti-semitism card when they speak about the muslim world. Go fuck yourself RT.
Giorgi Gvinianidze
Far-right radicals?! FUCK YOU RT ! DIRTY KREMLIN PROPAGANDA CHANNEL !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTqAUn1zmvg
Last edited by nämeless (2014-01-28 12:04:09)
So the main problem is governments corruption? They told us on tv here that they want prime minister to resign and that they want to eu..
well, its definitely 'Technology of orange revolutions' in action and mass medias war, and people in this war considering as resource, there is nothing like 'people's will' or 'fight for freedom' but have strong smell of shit
Joint, please explain this shit for dumb people like me in a basic language
Ur trying to say that people went out to streets because...?
firsts went on streets for money, its was 500 griven and bus to Kiev for 2 days, now its 800, i sure every young unemploed persons in cities of Ukraine know this fact
Maybe it's sounds odd but I would like to know. Is there a possibility for you to watch all these violent videos on your local television or the local media are engaging in something else to show a different point of view for the audience? Here in Russia, we have a lot of sources of information and the main subject of the broadcasting totally depends on a certain media: if a TV-channel belongs to the government or some organization which depends on the government, the main idea of the news and the talk-shows about Ukraine will be about the radicals and fascists who burn the police with Molotov cocktails and capture the administrative offices, about assassinations and the European Union association agreement. Some local liberal media are more engaged in broadcasting videos that are taking the side of the opposition and these videos are all about the police violence, water-jet machines, clubs etc. I prefer to watch something else which has much more cautious judgement about politics, but to gain some insight I need such a diversity of information. For example, if I watch Euronews at the morning time, I have a feeling of prejudice and discrimination and hence the question arises.
firsts went on streets for money, its was 500 griven and bus to Kiev for 2 days, now its 800, i sure every young unemploed persons in cities of Ukraine know this fact
I don't understand. It's about 43 EUR and it's about one day of work. Though they have no job and no education, they always can be employed for example in taxi service or something else. It's possible to get the same money doing something useful, so why the fuck these arseholes do the shite things? Is it more interesting to join the radicals and burn the police than to just work in good faith?
idk, its representing like go fight for Ukraine, we give you some money you could earn for this time
people fight best for their country and for the money
interest fact: in 2004, Yanukovich won elections, but long before Announcement of results, all means were prepared for orange revolution, and was similar situation, i know many ppl who was there, and ern some.. the thing is: if Yanukovich forged then why he didnt get punishment nor even elementary lawsuit, the first thing that did Ushenko is began discord with Russia (Ushenko wife have strong relation with some of western organisations)
http://www.eg.ru/daily/politics/17553/
and their main goals is make our ppl fragmented and weak
noone likes Yanukovich, he is a slow and not really smart, maybe he is worst politic ever, but its the lesser of two evils, looking at other eastern europian contries that joined the European Union, we can imagine what expect for us.. our ppl we will be compelled to go in Nederlands and rob some Timmos there..
sry im bored to edit this shit..
Last edited by joint (2014-01-28 22:51:33)
I hear that your country have always been bipolar, the nationalists from Lviv and the cossacks from Donbass and Crimee. Some says that Ukraine are going to split. Is it that bad ? Is there a big rift etween you ?
You your mother tongue is russian, isnt it ? How do you imagine the future ?
And last but not least, why the ukrainian's tits are so small ??
Hmm, like joint said, nothing beautiful awaits Ukraine in EU. On the other side, what awaits them in Russian federation? Keeping in mind that EU has a lot of problems and Russia is economy in rising. So, I do not see why would it be better to go EU and be low salary worker for some timmos there in western EU who anyway thinks that we "eastern" and "south" european ppl are lazy and criminals.
idk, its representing like go fight for Ukraine, we give you some money you could earn for this time
people fight best for their country and for the money
interest fact: in 2004, Yanukovich won elections, but long before Announcement of results, all means were prepared for orange revolution, and was similar situation, i know many ppl who was there, and ern some.. the thing is: if Yanukovich forged then why he didnt get punishment nor even elementary lawsuit, the first thing that did Ushenko is began discord with Russia (Ushenko wife have strong relation with some of western organisations)
http://www.eg.ru/upimg/photo/85333.jpg http://www.eg.ru/daily/politics/17553/
and their main goals is make our ppl fragmented and weak
noone likes Yanukovich, he is a slow and not really smart, maybe he is worst politic ever, but its the lesser of two evils, looking at other eastern europian contries that joined the European Union, we can imagine what expect for us.. our ppl we will be compelled to go in Nederlands and rob some Timmos there..sry im bored to edit this shit..
why arent you fighting joint?
i dont own a TV channel to fight in this war)
How do you imagine the future ?
flying cars, laser guns, sex bots idk..
Hmm, like joint said, nothing beautiful awaits Ukraine in EU. On the other side, what awaits them in Russian federation? Keeping in mind that EU has a lot of problems and Russia is economy in rising. So, I do not see why would it be better to go EU and be low salary worker for some timmos there in western EU who anyway thinks that we "eastern" and "south" european ppl are lazy and criminals.
I agree, I even think eastern block of Europe should maybe stick together in economy and trade, image China too in that, it could compete with EU, and EU i think wont last more then 50 years, or atleast with less countries.
i dont own a TV channel to fight in this war)
Coco wrote:How do you imagine the future ?
flying cars, laser guns, sex bots idk..
comon McFly tell us more ! Us, we don't have the opportunity to live in a revolution
@joint: get an ak47 then imagine you are in BF except ppl who you kill willnot spawn again
RamYam wrote:Hmm, like joint said, nothing beautiful awaits Ukraine in EU. On the other side, what awaits them in Russian federation? Keeping in mind that EU has a lot of problems and Russia is economy in rising. So, I do not see why would it be better to go EU and be low salary worker for some timmos there in western EU who anyway thinks that we "eastern" and "south" european ppl are lazy and criminals.
I agree, I even think eastern block of Europe should maybe stick together in economy and trade, image China too in that, it could compete with EU, and EU i think wont last more then 50 years, or atleast with less countries.
indeed, not if u take problemcountries in it like the eastern european countries
Oh no, u agreed with me on my thinking of economy, i must be wrong then
joint wrote:i dont own a TV channel to fight in this war)
Coco wrote:How do you imagine the future ?
flying cars, laser guns, sex bots idk..
comon McFly tell us more ! Us, we don't have the opportunity to live in a revolution
i would, but i got nothing interesting to share
@joint: get an ak47 then imagine you are in BF except ppl who you kill willnot spawn again
we dont solve issues in that style, that way would be too easy )
Hi all my European friends, I suggest you discuss the division of Ukraine. In general we take the entire eastern part of Ukraine to the Dnieper River, and everything else you.
Ok,yes?
wow Angry Russian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1_MxPphbR8
Joint, how do you think who is this Angry Russian? I mean is he an idiot or a troll...
i think he is just an angry-severe from Сhelyabinsk who wants a piece of Ukraine:) ..have no idea why
Ask him to take that part with sieg-heil-nazi-radicals, I hope they will be buried somewhere beside the Cheljabinsk meteorite.
What's new Joint ? Things seem to be getting heated...
Hold on
Last edited by Coco (2014-02-19 09:21:52)
Day by day it's getting closer to the civil war: assassinations, burnings, street fights...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkp9xgBdXlQ
Last edited by nämeless (2014-02-19 11:56:25)