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Admins, don't you think that even in such a sensitive topic, insulting an opponent is a violation of forum rules? The rhetoric of Simon, Insane and Joint has long gone beyond civilized communication, and yet they imagine themselves to be real civilized Europeans.
I do loosing civility lately, ok i am shutting up. Continue your deep conversation.
Hey John, no offence, its just me with simon, ultra patriots of USA, categorize you as a dolboeb sponge john square head.
Simon is also banderovets.
По факту Джон типичный долбоеб
Is there no Nazism in Ukraine?
Poor russian white trash class, what do they feed you omg
I have study that undeniably prove that russians came from inferior ukrainians, checkmate, little Valili.
https://www.worlddata.info/average-penissize.php
This is terrible, those vids..
!cringe flag alert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVZ1m48fHDI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2BjfKS … el=L%27Obs
какой клоун....! xaxaxaxaxa!
Haha, those degenerates have a lot their "info" consumers. They must putin their vodka some war poison.
I hope that my joint is doing okay. It's very bad news from Dnipro.
Thanks seventy.
"In war, truth is the first loss".
I don't remind who said it and I won't lose time to look for.Public opinion can be corrupted, it depends on how the question is given. And public opinion can be falsified. It's same with russian papers saying that Ukrainian people are nazis.
You can find nazis everywhere, unfortunately, in Ukraine, in Russia, in France, Germany, Switzerland, USA, Spain...
If you ask "should we make war to nazis ?" everyone will say "yes, we must !". Set in their brain that nazis are there and they all want war against it. And what become people who say no ?
Good intention serving bad purpose.
Absolutely. Thats why always better listen words but judge by deeds.
Like this, it says a lot, the guy was in government, than run away and become critic of Kadyrov, watched him couple times, he had channel on youtube. We here are maybe crazy, but they are mad, im telling you.
https://www.france24.com/en/20090330-pr … led-dubai-
Posted old murder, here is from yesterday
https://oc-media.org/sweden-based-chech … -murdered/
joint wrote:Levada Center is a non-governmental research organization. The largest independent polling center in Russia. The Center regularly conducts its own and commissioned sociological and marketing research and is one of the largest organizations in its field in Russia. Wikipedia.
Date of foundation: 2003
Founder: Yuri Alexandrovich LevadaBelieving the information about Russia, voiced by the Levada Center, is about the same as believing the information of the North Korean mass media about the United States.
ok, maybe i just fell into propahanda? i try to be unbiased..how about ВЦИОМ with same numbers, who they are?
https://www.vedomosti.ru/society/news/2 … operatsiyu
so is there are real numbers? what if war supporters are in minority and your goverment does it against people will? id like to find it out.
as i know media cheef of coverage of this war is daughter of minister of defence of Russia Шойгу, Шойгу, Ксения Сергеевна, and she is very rich girl, her huspand is Deputy Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation and of course they both are not corrupted russian boyars. same as childrens of Шойгу's deputies, some are chilling in England, again, as far i informed.
its hard to imagine that in a not godloving country such people could be in power. i totaly understand i just a human and could be deceived by masters of propahanda, i ready to accept that, is there any good sourse of info you suggest?
blue is yes, lightblue is mostly, at left are month of 2022 from feb to nov
joint wrote:Saw in news more than 70% of russians support war in Ukraine. Stupid russians. Wonder how much it will be when the battlefield shifts into their regions.
Was it Ukrainian news ?
actually yes but they reffer to
https://www.levada.ru/2022/12/02/konfli … 2022-goda/
Its summary result "definitely yes" and "mostly yes". Seems legit, i would be happy if it wasnt truth
Levada Center is a non-governmental research organization. The largest independent polling center in Russia. The Center regularly conducts its own and commissioned sociological and marketing research and is one of the largest organizations in its field in Russia. Wikipedia.
Date of foundation: 2003
Founder: Yuri Alexandrovich Levada
Saw in news more than 70% of russians support war in Ukraine. Stupid russians. Wonder how much it will be when the battlefield shifts into their regions.
USA must be using some modern weapon against russians that make dolboebos of great god loving russian people
Bobmbing kremlin at the right time could finish the war and libirate russian people
Thing is, they don't regret the fact that they took someone's lives but the sole fact that they face the consequences.
Anyways telling them about it is useless Joint, they already stated the lives do not matter, even for these "simple russians" it's all just the geopolitics.
Id still like to belive there are reasable men, and many will change their opinion soon under the weight of reality and facts.
Quotes of Winston Churchill:
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."
"Some men change their party for the sake of their principles; others their principles for the sake of their party."
"There is no such thing as public opinion. There is only published opinion."
..Lets hope for the best and try to not being blinded by hate.
All of us understand that Russia was forced and provoked into these actions. Even the fact that how many fortified military facilities were built in Ukraine suggests that the provocation was planned many years ago. Someone really wants to have control over russian gas, oil and market. In addition, some idiots killed agriculture in their countries in hope of producing and exporting almost for free from Ukraine. And now those idiots are howling that the africans are starving and under this pretext awant to take something out before winter comes. So you can discuss as much as you like, but do not lie to yourself.
Bre, not only russian market... Read somewhere that German companies have bad time now...some doesn't exist anymore, some are moving to US - where cheaper energy resources... Germans looses jobs, americans get those jobs. Hm. Thats for sure what is german politics desire, I guess.
And the berbock frue who doesn't care about her voters? Who is paying her? I believe you will say Putin, Arkos
This topic is not interesting. Will not read it anymore.
Even if so, these are different things the economy war, where people loosing money and power, and the war where people loosing lifes.
Escalation was biggest misstake of Russia i think, doesnt matter if they feel they were somehow pushed for it. And russian government realise this for sure.
Was massive roket attak and they killed 2 civilians in Poland.
Red lines, red lines .
At least two dead after Russian missiles land in NATO state Poland on Ukraine border
Confirmed by russian tv
https://youtu.be/qDXR04gcL8A
Of course, of course
https://youtu.be/iFa8H9Ckk2k
ото де мразота..
все равно не все такие.
+Dima+ wrote:Dakota wrote:Its not because you steal something that means that its belong to you ( Crimea = Ukraine ) You got to be a big twisted fuck to make fun of the misery of real and proud Ukrainians that are going to suffer and die this winter.
You should be sent to front lines just to see if you are that brave ! You would find a rabbit hole to hide AO !
PS: Nice to hear from you Joint
If the United States, Canada and Europe had not begun to supply Ukraine with weapons, train the Ukrainian military and supply them with intelligence data, as well as send mercenaries to Ukraine, then everything would have ended long ago. Many thousands of Ukrainians would have survived, and the cities had not been destroyed. Russia is to blame for starting this horror, the US and Europe are to blame for not letting it end and doing everything to make it worse. I don't know if the imaginary freedom is worth the price the Ukrainian people pay for it.
Are you sure that Russia does not have any help from other countries ? Easy to put the fault on someone else.
They being like: we gonna take their land. Dont give them means to defend from us, we do it for 3 days. Crazy people in the chairs there!
Long ago I had a friend and he told me that nuklear war will start at 4th november 2022.
But we we both were wastedat that moment
joint wrote:The human life has the most value, if a person die for some geopolitic games, he doest care who win, if one or community as a nation want push their interests, it must not cost someones lifes. Live and let live. Your government started to kill, hello?
I see two options for the future: first is putin will be laid down in history books next to hitler, in this case there is question if russian people get out of this with dignity, as germans did after ww2, and second is nuke explosions. In any case nothing good for you is there, point of no return is passed, you may associate own goals with goals of your governments and translate your tv paganda but you lost already, its gonna be only worse.
Это ваш режим начал убивать, сеять смерть. Ваш режим сжег людей в Одессе (вы смеялись над шашлыком), убил людей в Луганске военным самолетом (вы смеялись над взорвавшимся кондиционером), ваш президент сказал, что донецкие дети будут жить в подвалах, и много чего еще. Вы об этом не знаете?
Сейчас вы пожинаете то, что посеял ваш режим. И еще вкусите это в полной мере.
Вы этого не понимаете (так как живете в придуманном виртуальном мире), но вас уже нет, вы вычеркнуты из бытия, ваша нацистская Украина агонизирует. То, что делает сейчас Украина - это просто судороги умирающего. Точка невозврата пройдена. Когда нибудь вы это осознаете, когда возникнет новая Украина, которая будет нести мир и добро.
ха ха
joint wrote:Youre pretty dumb or trolling or both. You know Kremlin was build by an italian with hadns of poor descreminated half slaves who were very proud being Moskow tsar holops, thats why you all hate freedom and Italia, because your masters made you to bark in way as they want you to do, that what i would say talking in you language, lol
Не хочу спорить.
Всё это не столько про Украину (её роль в этом вопросе хорошо показана в гифке, где дядя Сэм свиньёй бьёт медведя), сколько про дальнейшее развитие человечества.
Ситуация зашла настолько далеко, что этот спор рассудит только сила.Поэтому просто наблюдаем - сгорит ли мир в ядерном огне, или нет. :-)
P.S. Каков бы ни был исход, Украины в любом случае не будет в том виде и в тех границах, в которых она была слеплена в 1991 году (и всяко она не станет больше). И вины Украины в этом нет - ведь Украина просто безвольная марионетка Запада; вся вина в происходящих событиях целиком на западных политиках (которые сейчас действуют в состоянии маразма, как когда-то впало в маразм политбюро СССР). Поэтому Путин был прав, когда 27.10.2022 сказал, что «единственным гарантом суверенитета Украины могла быть только Россия».
The human life has the most value, if a person die for some geopolitic games, he doest care who win, if one or community as a nation want push their interests, it must not cost someones lifes. Live and let live. Your government started to kill, hello?
I see two options for the future: first is putin will be laid down in history books next to hitler, in this case there is question if russian people get out of this with dignity, as germans did after ww2, and second is nuke explosions. In any case nothing good for you is there, point of no return is passed, you may associate own goals with goals of your governments and translate your tv paganda but you lost already, its gonna be only worse.
Persia!
Им тебя не понять.
Они думают, что у них есть страна, и что они её защищают. А по факту - всё в этой стране построено руками советского народа. А они - последователи националистов-бандеровцев, с которыми этот народ боролся. Получается, что они захватили страну и уничтожают её строителей.Отсюда и полное непонимание друг друга, отсюда и ненависть, отсюда и название страны «404», отсюда и шутки про «протоукров» и «укропитеков».
При поддержке Запада они захватили чужое, и от этого у них подсознательная ненависть к настоящим хозяевам этой страны, потому что внутри себя они понимают, что рано или поздно настоящие хозяева заберут захваченное ими обратно.
Время рассудит это недопонимание, рано или поздно.
Youre pretty dumb or trolling or both. You know Kremlin was build by an italian with hadns of poor descreminated half slaves who were very proud being Moskow tsar holops, thats why you all hate freedom and Italia, because your masters made you to bark in way as they want you to do, that what i would say talking in you language, lol
joint is back!!! I was worried about you, my friend. Glad to see you back on track, hopefully everything okay!
Everything is ok, thank you!
joint wrote:Haha
Joint!
Привет!
Я рад, что у тебя всё хорошо! :-)Ты на Украине?
Ага, на родине, в Украине я
А тебя не мобилизовали?
Если шо, давай сразу к нам, в плен. Я договорюсь за тебя.
joint wrote:KarlsoN wrote:о, ты вышел на связь
джойнт, как дела? Ты где?Я дома, я живой, жизнь прекрасна и удивительна
Спасибо.тебя долго не было. Эвакуировался куда-то?
Не, я бы и не стал валить, даже если бы была возможность. укреплял рубежи и развивал меткость и родственникам с огородами помогал еще.