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Casca wrote:I know that can be hard to do since you will get arrested for doing so but still it is the right thing to do.
Yes, it is right thing to do.
But i have wife and son, and first i have to think about their future.
I'm only who works in my family, so i can't risk to be arrested.
My family is my priority.
Yes I understand and I respect that - its hard choices but family first.
So Karlsson I respect and like all russians that are against the invasion and I respect them even more if they dare to protest against it in some way. I know that can be hard to do since you will get arrested for doing so but still it is the right thing to do. If more end more russians would protest against this and get Putin replaced then there would still be some hope for Russia and the relations with the western demochracies... but it might be to late even if Putin were to be replaced today. But I guess its never to late to turn around and choose another road - but even so this will have long term cosequences and not just for russians but for world economy aswell...
So you hate all Russians want to ban all Russians from everywhere, but you like "some Chinese people". Why can't you like "some" Russians?
Not all of us supports Ukraine occupation (me, for example), but you would like to see all sanctions for me too.
Smells like double standards, itsn't it?
No if you read what I wrote you wont find anything about me hating all russians. I just dont like them who supports the invasion and the killing of civilians. But sadly enough the majority of all russians support this war.
Sanctions cant be directed only to those who support the invasion and not towards the others. Its impossible to direct sanctions just to them. Therefor in order to sanction the russians who support this the sanctions must be directed towards all russians. Thats why I think all russians should be banned from the server.
What do you think that we should do? Should everyone just be quiet and let the invasion go on?
Casca wrote:yes and thats one community that you wont be working with any time soon. Have fun with your new friends in China.
Sounds like you dont like Chinese.
I appriciate some core values in life and much of those values are diffrent types of freedoms like freedom to vote, freedom from violence, freedom of speech, freedom to own things well I like beeing free to make my own decisions.
I like some chineese people and I actually had a chineese guy living with me for half a year. I rented a room to a chineese student who told me about the protest and the freedom fights in Hong Kong. He told me about how the students in China were inspired by the Ukrainians and their freedom fight in 2014. They wanted to do the same in China because they want the same freedom as I have and the same as the Ukrainians want to have also. I loved the chineese people when they tried to revolt in Tinanmen Squere in 1989 and also when they tried to protest in 2019. I also love the russians who dare to protest against the war - all my respect to them.
The Chineese people who fight for the same values as I do and as the Ukrainians do and also as some russians do - well those people I like alot. We share the same values in life. But the systems in Russia and in China that do not support and share these values I do not like. I dont like intolerance and opression.
I dont like when you arrest people who express their views or when you attack other people just because you dont like their choices.
What core values in life do you have - what is importent to you? think about it...
yes and thats one community that you wont be working with any time soon. Have fun with your new friends in China.
Even if the russians would "win" this war by killing all people in Ukraine and destroying all the buildings in the country they will have lost. There are no way of winning this for Russia... The future for Russia after this will be a future isolated from all the western democracies.
Have fun playing with China and India!
We should really ban all the russians from this server too I think.
Rinjo wrote:The whole world is watching you, Russia.
You are wrong
Well this is the first page of CNN today as we speak - you dont think the world is watching?
Noone watches CNN?
I had 2 families from Ukraine in my apartment. People who escaped from the war. One family is from Mariupol. They told me about "Russian peace". They told me about barbarism. The Russians rape, murder and bomb civilian buildings: schools, hospitals, and apartment blocks. Europe will never forgive you for this.
The Polish people have really stepped forward and helped their neighbours - nice work Rinjo. I will also take in refugees in my apartment if needed in Sweden. We have sent alot of material, food and other stuff to Ukraine from here too. All people here are decided and united to help Ukraine in everything we can. Some also go there to fight with them but not so many yet.
We will not forget and forgive this Persia - I promise you that.
I naively believed that these propaganda things are for especially stubborn people who can’t google, but judging by you, it works well
So the Polish people should be greatful for the Soviet actions during ww2 and afterwards hah...? Guess he should say thank you mother Russia?
Around 80% of Russians support the war in Ukraine. These people must be isolated from Europe. They have not changed their mentality from Soviet Russia. Putin's mistake is that he sees Europe and NATO as an enemy ...
You will remember my words. In a year, China will attack Russia and no one will help Russia ... no one!
Btw. Casca, congratulations to the Swedes on a very realistic approach to the current situation! You help the Ukrainians well
I think that the russians will be isolated from Europe as a result of their own actions and the sad truth is that most russians support the invasion.
Maybe we will write less when you stop slaughtering women and children - true...
Persia you need to study - not me.
Putin is not Russia. This country has existed for centuries before him and will exist centuries after him
True and the country will still exist but since the russians are supporting this and supports Putin no country in Europe wants to be dependent of trade with Russia in the future. Thats my guess anyway… They will have to trade with Chaina more…
I guess there will be a transition time now and a whole new buisness landscape is developing...
At the moment we se the sanctions against russia and this will have effects both on russia but also on european economy. It will hurt the economy of many countries.
The lesson from this will be for europe that never again be dependent on any trade with russia. We will work now to get independent from russian oil, gas and other products and this will finally benefit Europe but with an initial cost. Russia will have to find other markets and maybe trade with China, India and some African countries. But the russian trade with Europe is gone for the long future.
Ukraine on the other hand will be getting good trade deals with Europe and the US wich will make their economy florish in a few years time. They just have to survive the war and then start to rebuild their country with alot of help from Europe...
Persia, only truth comes from russian news or what? The west is lying and russia is honest? Where do you get legit information about what is really going on - I want to see such source
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/20 … he-war.cnn
There they go…
This is strange since you yourself do not present any source of anything yet you say things that are the opposit of what are known facts in the rest of the world.
You dont think Ukraine is a souverign state including Donetsk and Crimea?
Well the rest of the world thinks so https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states you dont belive in maps?
You say we need education when we say that Russia invaded the eastern parts and has been fighting a proxy war there for 8 years… well educate us on how the ”rebels of the east” managed to fight against Ukraine for 8 years…? Where did they get material, amunition, food and gasoline from?
Where do you get this ideas from? Please post a source and educate us!
That Russia does this to Ukraine is nothing new in their behavior just look at Moldova and Gerorgia too - same shit.
There is a war in Yemen since 2014, supported by USA (what a surprise), almost 100 000 people killed.
This weekend in Jeddah Formula 1 Gran-Prix. Oil refining, located few kilometres from racing track, was fired upon by rockets during racing session. Nobody cancel racing. Nobody "cancel" Saudi. Nobody puts a sanctions vs them.
Double standards again?
Why nobody cares about Yemen's civialians? Ukranians are better people, or what?
This line of debating is called whataboutism and its not logic. Just because there is something wrong somwhere else doesnt justefy you doing something wrong too.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
and yes i care more about my neighbours then people far away…
simon wrote:Persia, only truth comes from russian news or what? The west is lying and russia is honest? Where do you get legit information about what is really going on - I want to see such source
I dont have a single source, I am always looking for the truth considering both sides of the conflict, taking into account the interests of each of them.
Curiosity and consciousness helps me understand that in geopolitics nothing happens just like that.
There are now 3 centers of power in the world - China, Russia and the USA. Everything that happens in the world one way or another relates to one of the parties at least.
The European Union over the past 20-30 years has lost its sovereignty and is acting on command. Now the team is pushing Russia with sanctions, even to their own detriment.
Europeans start felt this detriment in everyday life
Im assure even you are russophobe understand that European companies have left the Russian market Not "on their own"?and yes, i cant see fully picture of the world, but I have enough fundamentals
Guess its useless to talk about this since you just say stuff without anything to back up your arguments.
The truth is that:
Russia have invaded Ukraine
Russia are targeting Civilians
Thousends on both sides have died and more are injured
4 million people have fled from their homes
Russia are threatning more neighbouring countries
When a bully beats up a schoolkid in the schoolyard its not a conflict or ”two sides” its a bully beating up a weaker kid. Russia is that bully.
Casca wrote:Well you know that DPR/LPR are Ukranian territory? You know that Russia have been fighting a proxy war there since 2014? If Russia hadnt invaded these areas by proxy you wouldnt have got hurt at all.
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SilentPoliteK … ax-1mb.gif
You r heading for arcos, your head is full of misinformation.
Teache materiel
Well these are the facts anyway - ignore it if you want but it will cost you and your country a lifetime of isolation from the western democracies. But I guess you dont value that anyway so for you its no loss...
You can eat a Big Putin instead of a Big Mac I guess.
Have fun in your Putin paradise!
Casca wrote:Sorry dude - wont happen...we will help them in anyway we can.
So I'm asking, where were you before, mother's defenders? Not a word from you in recent decades.
Why didn't you write here when the Nazis slaughtered civilians for the Russian language in the DPR/LPR?
just give me answer
Well you know that DPR/LPR are Ukranian territory? You know that Russia have been fighting a proxy war there since 2014? If Russia hadnt invaded these areas by proxy you wouldnt have got hurt at all.
Arkos wrote:...
You can't expect that the world is just standing aside and let it happen. The next is Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania ?
...
Ahahah where was your fucking whole world when the usa bombed yugoslavia, libya, iraq, iran, syria?
its a different?sorry dude, I have no desire to talk with a bot that writes in cheap propaganda templates
So since someone else made something wrong in another country before in history you think that it gives Russia the right to kill Insane, Joint and Selena that lives in Ukraine and plays this game? And when you bomb their houses and kill their friends and families you expect everyone else in the world just to watch and dont intervene?
Sorry dude - wont happen...we will help them in anyway we can.
Casca, you are forming your opinion based on a news article that's published by Russia's enemy country? This is how news Propaganda works. They ll publish things that can form opinions among people towards particular subject in a way they want. This is what happening all time. RT, BBC, CNN, FOX, Global Times,.....all of these are created to publish propaganda. Just follow these news networks on twitter and see how disgustingly they write and publish against each other.
Well if there were a russian "peace movement" in here where they all opposed the invasion/war I might think different - but sadly there are no such movement... If all russians in here changed their avatar/flags to the Ukrainian flag or something - I would think different - but that wont happen...
We take in now 4 000 refugees from Ukraine in Sweden each day...
Casca wrote:So you dont want the west to upset you guys or create hate? Well stopp invading other countries then! Stop killing innocent women and children! Stop creating massdestruction! You guys are the Orcs of the world at the moment.
Where have you been last 8 years? Every day shooting and exploisons. Check the reports.
https://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/reports
Where I have been well Ive actually been to Ukraine three times since 2014. Ive seen how Russia first invaded the eastern parts by proxy and also invaded Crimea... Ive been to Mykolajiv the closed city wich you recently bombed and other cities in Ukraine too. Where have you been and why does this matter...?
Casca wrote:To bann all russians from here would be logical and a good thing to do since they seem to support this madness….
Casca wrote:We should really ban all Russian players from the simple servers as a sanction.
Damn, Casca, you so genious.
You completely not understanding Russian's mentality and logic.
All of the sanctions just forcing Russians to stick together to each other, a lot of people going to hate Europe and USA since now. It's only starting total hate to each other.
How does it help to resolve issue?Im in Uzbekistan in work trip right now and can't pay in shops because my cards are not working.
Do you think i am happy about that?
No.Does it help to Ukraine?
No.Does it help to international economic?
No.Any pros of this?
No.About oil and gas. Same shit.
You have expensive oil and gas now.
Does it help to Ukraine?
No.Any pros of this?
No.Whole world knows that McDonalds isn't working in Russia anymore.
I was eating in McDonalds this Sunday in Moscow. Same will happen with rest of brends. The will come back soon.Casca wrote:4 million people have fled from their homes brcause of them and we play with them in here?
Are the left their home because of me? Or may be nameless? Or may be persia?
No.Is there any reason to hate me (us)?
No.So, please, stop insulting all russians. Think before.
All of this reminds me "cancel culture" in global.
Whole world trying now to "cancel" russians, but believe me, it won't happen. Because this is nationalism. You can't hate russians because we are russians. It's only bring to all of us more problems then we have now.@Casca, you judging like nazi. That's not good.
So much to comment but hey lets start...
Are the russian people innocent bystanders in this? Do they oppose the war? The anser is in general no they support the invasion of Ukraine. Is that something that I have made up? No there are studies that actually shows that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 … -invasion/
Do sanctions against Russians work?
Well yes we belive so otherwise we wouldnt have put them in action.
So you dont want the west to upset you guys or create hate? Well stopp invading other countries then! Stop killing innocent women and children! Stop creating massdestruction! You guys are the Orcs of the world at the moment.
Should the world just look away when you slaughter your neighbours? No I dont think so - we should intervene and try to stop you guys. If we cant do it with sanctions we should do it by force - we have more weapons then you - and if that will kill us all together then ok lats all die then. We will all die sooner or later and we can die from different causes... We choose to die fighting for freedom - you choose to die fighting for the right to slaughter you neighbours.
Sorry man but in this war the russians are the Nazis - not me.
The server needs some change so this is good - good luck man!
Is it funny videos and pics for you ?
what do you expect it will become worst and worst get ready no more cognac ...
I agree - how is this funny...? You will run out of more food in the neareZt future...
Cant you make the difference between that `paria state` and hindividuals Casca ? you say that they voted for him in lower post but did they have a other choice ? What about the Russians who fled their country because of it, they must be good people and sending them back in Russia would be the solution you think ?
I respect russians that either flee or protest against this. But russians in here who put a Z in their name they dont oppose this - they like this. Many russians support Putin and the war. Ask the russians in here if they oppose the war and you will see.
Casca wrote:Sunshine wrote:Please tell me you're being sarcastic.
Nope.
So you think all Russian players should be banned... alrighty.
Should the Russians who are registered on the forum also be banned?
Should all the Russian admins lose their admin rights? There's quite a few.
Nämeless, another Russian, was the head admin for years until 2 days ago. One could argue that uly, another Russian, has done a lot (especially with helping admins) and maybe as much as nämeless as it relates to importance.This is a game. It has absolutely nothing to do what goes on in any other part of the world.
I don't think you and I will ever agree on this issue so I'll hop out of this thread.
I purposely haven't posted my views on anything seriously related to the war but I just had to ask if you were serious with your call to "ban all Russian players."
Thanks for the clarification, I guess.
All russians are banned from almost every international activity today.
Russians cant i.e.
- play international sports
- do international business
- transfer money
- accsess their money in forign banks
- travel to the US, UK, EU and Canada
This is since they attacked Ukraine. I belive that those sanctions are good and should be even more harsh and they will be in the future.. To bann all russians from here would be logical and a good thing to do since they seem to support this madness….
Casca wrote:We should really ban all Russian players from the simple servers as a sanction. This out of respect of our Ukrainian players who now are fleeing their homes and cant play the game. Also in respect to all millions of people that now have to flee from their homes.
Common man, this is nt Russian people's war. It just bunch of dumbazz retarded leaders that created these situations.
If that were the case then fine… but its not… the people of russia elected Putin and he still has a great support among the people. Just take a look in here when russians also are using the Z in their names - they support this…sorry but I think we should just ban em from here.
4 million people have fled from their homes brcause of them and we play with them in here?