#1 2019-06-14 17:07:22

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come on admins

am making this bloody post third time because no admin replied on last topics. so my suggestion would be to make bots not enter vehicles its that bloody simple and many players agree with me its not that hard nor complicated to fix but it is a big pain in the ass to players

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#2 2019-06-14 17:49:26

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Re: come on admins

There is no way to make bots not enter vehicles without disabling vehicle entry to humans as well server-side.

If you want to enter a vehicle that is being driven by a bot just press E repeatedly and you can get in.

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#3 2019-06-14 20:15:47

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Re: come on admins

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If you want to enter a vehicle that is being driven by a bot just press E repeatedly and you can get in.

Emm... no.
Only if you're in a same vehicle (in a top MG of a tank for example) and you press 1.

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#4 2019-06-14 20:33:22

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Re: come on admins

There are propably some values that reglates in what order bot priorities different vehicles?

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#5 2019-06-14 21:18:38

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Re: come on admins

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If a bot took place 1, press F7-F7 and then F6-F7 and mostly he bails after some seconds.

If they didn't take it allready, but running to it to take it, press F6-F7 and they turn in another direction.
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#6 2019-06-14 21:22:09

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Re: come on admins

Arkos they dont seem respond if they are in attack mode, like close to enemy bots

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#7 2019-06-14 21:27:45

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Re: come on admins

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After a while it works mostly. But yes, sometimes it takes a bit longer.

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#8 2019-06-15 00:17:18

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Re: come on admins

Insane wrote:
Black Mamba wrote:

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If you want to enter a vehicle that is being driven by a bot just press E repeatedly and you can get in.

Emm... no.
Only if you're in a same vehicle (in a top MG of a tank for example) and you press 1.

Nope, you can actually get in that way, I've tried it.

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#9 2019-06-15 13:38:44

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Re: come on admins

Bots that is added to conquest mode might not respond the same way as they do in coop mode.

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#10 2019-06-15 14:12:04

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#11 2019-06-15 15:28:14

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Re: come on admins

Black Mamba wrote:

There is no way to make bots not enter vehicles without disabling vehicle entry to humans as well server-side.

If you want to enter a vehicle that is being driven by a bot just press E repeatedly and you can get in.

nope that doesnt work

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#12 2019-06-15 15:29:13

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Re: come on admins

Black Mamba wrote:

There is no way to make bots not enter vehicles without disabling vehicle entry to humans as well server-side.

If you want to enter a vehicle that is being driven by a bot just press E repeatedly and you can get in.

how is that? there are servers and vehicles which only humans can enter (such as bombers)

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#13 2019-06-15 15:32:39

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Re: come on admins

Arkos wrote:

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If a bot took place 1, press F7-F7 and then F6-F7 and mostly he bails after some seconds.

If they didn't take it allready, but running to it to take it, press F6-F7 and they turn in another direction.
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you have to catch the vehicle (which is almost impossible with vehicles such as cars and planes) , then make sure that vehicle isnt one seater, that at least one seat is still available (in most of cases there are no seats available and in order to get in second seat you have to kill the bot in second seat) , then wait a lot of time, and finally it might still not work thats not a good way i think

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#14 2019-06-15 15:34:48

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Re: come on admins

admins can just fix this very easily rather than these long rituals on bots that in often cases dont work lol

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#15 2019-06-15 16:38:12

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Re: come on admins

pharaon wrote:
Black Mamba wrote:

There is no way to make bots not enter vehicles without disabling vehicle entry to humans as well server-side.

If you want to enter a vehicle that is being driven by a bot just press E repeatedly and you can get in.

how is that? there are servers and vehicles which only humans can enter (such as bombers)

If not mistaken, to prevent bots from entering a vehicle the mod needs to NOT include the vehicle for them:

rem include ../../../../../Objects/Vehicles/Land/Priest/AI/Objects.con
rem include ../../../../../Objects/Vehicles/Land/Priest/AI/Weapons.con

pharaon wrote:

admins can just fix this very easily rather than these long rituals on bots that in often cases dont work lol

Admins cannot do anything to the mod.  Ask tuia.  It's unlikely that you'll see the bots being restricted
from the tanks tho.  You'll end up with just infantry (and air/ship) bots at that point.

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#16 2019-06-15 17:13:38

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Re: come on admins

Can there something be done that bots won`t just occupy a C-47 for example and stay at the base?
Or if it is possible to make them go to the nearest gray or an opposite team`s flag and not just randomly wander around on the map?

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#17 2019-06-15 17:57:38

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Re: come on admins

Vertigo wrote:
pharaon wrote:
Black Mamba wrote:

There is no way to make bots not enter vehicles without disabling vehicle entry to humans as well server-side.

If you want to enter a vehicle that is being driven by a bot just press E repeatedly and you can get in.

how is that? there are servers and vehicles which only humans can enter (such as bombers)

If not mistaken, to prevent bots from entering a vehicle the mod needs to NOT include the vehicle for them:

rem include ../../../../../Objects/Vehicles/Land/Priest/AI/Objects.con
rem include ../../../../../Objects/Vehicles/Land/Priest/AI/Weapons.con

pharaon wrote:

admins can just fix this very easily rather than these long rituals on bots that in often cases dont work lol

Admins cannot do anything to the mod.  Ask tuia.  It's unlikely that you'll see the bots being restricted
from the tanks tho.  You'll end up with just infantry (and air/ship) bots at that point.

if you rem the objects the bots wont know the vehicles are there at all, they wont attack it either. Problem is that they can end up entering the vehicle if its close to another vehicle, and in such case thse server will crash.

But yeah, its not just clicking on some button, one have to understand the ai and modify the right code on  the right place. I can honestly say its over over my head, but there is a bf42 singleplayer forum that have a lot of experience with bot code.

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#18 2019-06-15 18:42:31

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Re: come on admins

Vertigo wrote:
pharaon wrote:
Black Mamba wrote:

There is no way to make bots not enter vehicles without disabling vehicle entry to humans as well server-side.

If you want to enter a vehicle that is being driven by a bot just press E repeatedly and you can get in.

how is that? there are servers and vehicles which only humans can enter (such as bombers)

If not mistaken, to prevent bots from entering a vehicle the mod needs to NOT include the vehicle for them:

rem include ../../../../../Objects/Vehicles/Land/Priest/AI/Objects.con
rem include ../../../../../Objects/Vehicles/Land/Priest/AI/Weapons.con

pharaon wrote:

admins can just fix this very easily rather than these long rituals on bots that in often cases dont work lol

Admins cannot do anything to the mod.  Ask tuia.  It's unlikely that you'll see the bots being restricted
from the tanks tho.  You'll end up with just infantry (and air/ship) bots at that point.

Oh yeah, that code. Forgot about that one xd

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#19 2019-06-16 12:02:47

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Re: come on admins

but if other servers can do this why cant this server do it?

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#20 2019-08-08 03:40:13

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Re: come on admins

Better yet, get rid of the bots. Besides stealing vehicles it's not fair to have one side kicking butt while the other side runs around in circles because the AI only works on one side at a time.

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