#1 2018-10-07 01:23:51

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some admins keep misusing maprights

short version :

admin kobra and a few others should stop skipping philly, iwo, omaha

long :

most clanners dont like philly, omaha, iwo. according to them, theyre just “bad maps”, unbalanced and asymetrical and make players flee from the server (this is untrue rubbish, theyre good and popular maps and usually fill up the server), so the clanner-admins go the selfish and egocentric way, and do everything they can to skip these maps as much as possible, by using the setnext admin command

it seems as if they think they own the server and the bf1942 game, because they are clanners and admins and have put a lot of time into admining the server, so this is the “reward”; being able to skip all the “bad maps” and being able to choose what the (in their minds stupid public casual) players get

well, there are a lot of good non-clanner admins in simple fra, who have spent more time admining and yet still are more humble, meager and non-arrogant, and never abuse admin rights

im guessing the head admins will is that all 21 maps should be played evenly (at least in primetime) and that no maps should consistently be skipped more than others. furthermore, iwo and omaha often end early due to no uncap mains, which makes them overall played even less - timewise

its been a problem for years, and we have discussed it before :

http://team-simple.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=6002

nameless used to skip philly a lot, but he has (probably reluctantly) stopped it for now

currently, especially admin kobra keeps skipping philly. whenever hes online and philly is next, theres a good chance it gets skipped

here are five examples from recent weeks. number of skipped phillies, omahas, iwos in this period is probably much higher. im not online all the time. these are just the ones that i saw :


          date / time            map skipped       main suspect

14-09-2018     23:00          philly
15-09-2018     19:47          philly           
15-09-2018     22:05          iwo                        kobra
24-09-2018     01:16          philly                     kobra
07-10-2018     00:22          philly                     kobra - arkos

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#2 2018-10-07 07:59:11

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Re: some admins keep misusing maprights

@tuia / bud , can you remove planes from philly map?

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#3 2018-10-09 01:00:07

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Re: some admins keep misusing maprights

more omaha / philly skipping today, probably by kobra again ...

we had just played :

bocage
kursk
britain
berlin
iwo

next maps were (as seen in the video at 00:01) :

wake
philly
omaha

but as expected when kobra is online, they were skipped and stalingrad was set to next

and kobra even lied about it, saying maprotation changed. it didnt, an admin (probably him) set stalingrad next during iwo jima

00:04 - merlin : should ne playing wake     (truth)
00:22 - kobra : new maprota       (lie)

population at the end of iwo : 46 players.
at the end of stali : 16


https://youtu.be/vkbV_6ungrI

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#4 2018-10-09 02:59:00

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Re: some admins keep misusing maprights

I'm also getting supremely pissed at the selfish changeout of Britain to Bocage instead on a regular basis

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#5 2018-10-09 11:41:18

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Re: some admins keep misusing maprights

BFSoldier 1 wrote:

... and a few others should stop skipping philly, iwo, omaha


07-10-2018     00:22          philly                     kobra - arkos

......

Dude, i'm not changing maps like this and you know it.

...

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#6 2018-10-09 18:34:02

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Re: some admins keep misusing maprights

i have play many maps with arkos, he never do that shit.


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#7 2018-10-14 18:10:42

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Re: some admins keep misusing maprights

Почему меня постоянно банят????

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#8 2018-10-17 11:11:19

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Re: some admins keep misusing maprights

xxxRUMxxx wrote:

Почему меня постоянно банят????

Напиши комментарий в соответствующий раздел форума.

http://team-simple.org/forum/viewforum.php?id=4


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#9 2018-11-29 00:44:00

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Re: some admins keep misusing maprights

more abuse / misuse of the setnext / runnext privilege, especially by kobra and nameless

it depends of the intention of giving some admins maprights of course. if the server owner thinks it is ok that some maps generally are less played in simple fra, due to a few admins skipping them deliberately and consistently, then everything is ok

i dont think it is ok, the skipped maps are some of the ones that already (without skipping) are least played

as mentioned earlier in this thread, clanners generally dont like philly, iwo, omaha, el al ctf, so thats why a few of the clanneradmins keep skipping them (selfishness / egotism)

i would consider telling kobra / nameless to stop it, or remove their maprights if technically possible

if not, then maybe (temporarily?) remove setnext / runnext for all admins

and kobra / nameless virtually never ask players ingame about these skippings and setnexts. when they rarely do, they deliberately twist and interpret the feedback to their own favor


these are just the one that i noticed this month. number of mapskippings are probably twice as high or more

.              time / date                  map(s) skipped              set instead     main suspect

29-10-2018    around   22:00       el al ctf, coral, omaha    bocage            kobra
01-11-2018    around   20:40       el al ctf                             gazala             kobra
02-11-2018    around   22:00       philly                                berlin              kobra
03-11-2018    around   23:30       iwo, philly                        gazala             nameless / kobra
07-11-2018    around   23:00       guad, philly                     berlin              kobra
10-11-2018    around   00:40       el al ctf                            stalingrad           
11-11-2018    around   00:10       omaha                              bocage            kobra
14-11-2018    around   20:00       el al ctf                             stalingrad       nameless
15-11-2018       23:39                    philly, britain, omaha     aberdeen        nameless setnext deen + runnext 3 secs into philly
22-11-2018       00:37                   el al ctf                              berlin              nameless setnext berlin +runnext 40 secs into el al
23-11-2018    around   01:30       el al ctf                             aberdeen         gio
24-11-2018    around   15:10       iwo, kharkov, philly         midway            combat setnext midway +runnext in middle of iwo
28-11-2018    around   21:45       philly                                 bulge               kobra

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#10 2018-11-29 01:21:36

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Re: some admins keep misusing maprights

I think the admins are doing a good job and its good that they skip some maps sometimes...


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#11 2018-11-29 16:26:40

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Re: some admins keep misusing maprights

Not that i had to justify anything to an honourless gamekilling and server-misusing super-egomaniac like u, and no one like u who is on such an incredibly ruthless super-ego-trip should speak of selfishness/egoism - its absolutely absurd! Maybe sometimes there is something like this going on, and a misuse of these things is indeed not ok, but tell me: what made u think u had to involve me there?
"24-11-2018    around   15:10       iwo, kharkov, philly         midway            combat setnext midway +runnext in middle of iwo"
Are u fOockin kidding me there SickOOO?? I dont even remember the correct command anymore for setting a map as next manually, also a reason why i never do this - and for sure i havent done this @ that day, in the afternoon, when the server is usually crowded.. U have accused Arkos lately already without any justification, now its me huh?!
Lately, late night, i indeed skipped a map after there was a crappy mess of hardcore-teamstacking all the foockin time (ye something u like to do either on many damnd occasions), in that case the teams were continually unbalanced like hell with 12:4 players or so, before i skipped that map i have asked resp. told and warned many guys several times to keep the teams balanced, and i announced to them that i gotta skip the map if they dont listen n finally start to play fair - they refused to follow the rules so in the end i was forced to skip a map, i guess that was the very first time there that ive used the !runnext-command..
So what the hell gives u the right to involve me here huh, and to judge admins decisions in general that often when u have no clue about whats goin on now n then, and why the heck dont u just play anywhere else when u r that unsatisfied with most of the admins here as u obviously are?? Why dont u just keep on with doin ur super-pathetic bailing to death and apart from that stay out of stuff u hardly know anything about?!
And now go and show ur foocked up character again PsychOOO and give me more -reputation with some of ur ridicilous fake-profiles (LMFAO btw) and with the help of some of ur buddies who still believe in that suckin BS and ur freaky lies u r posting here too often! Obviously this game is everything what matters in ur life, seriously, think about to search for help and get well soon man!
Note to the audience: basically that guy is right sometimes with some of his complaints, but a lot of them is also nothing but an exaggerated childish hassle too often, even any lousy kick for any of his misbehavior like teamstackin or bailing to death became a drama-thread already in the past, both some admins regard as disruptive gaming meanwhile and have finally started to kick n ban for that, so ill do it as well in the future! As most of that crap isnt worth the typin and as im fed up with reading his suckin BS-posts and with being accused by him for whatever stuff ive decided to ignore him instead of givin him a feedback he doesnt deserve, so this was my very last comment to "players" like him!

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#12 2018-11-29 16:51:50

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Re: some admins keep misusing maprights

ComBat, you should just ignore him mate.
He doesnt even know what he's talking about; yeah there few admins that abuse him but it doesnt mean every admin does that.Making a lot of drama cause of map switch...FFS, admins switch maps according to what majority of players would like to play and not to their own pleasure, also to avoid situations where the game is boring and people leave or where map type leads to disruptive gameplay by a lot of players.There is a damn reason why some maps are skipped!


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#13 2018-11-29 18:19:50

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Re: some admins keep misusing maprights

...

When i was reading this:

"Combat setnext midway +runnext in middle of iwo",

my first thought was also: "What?"

...

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#14 2018-11-29 18:56:20

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Re: some admins keep misusing maprights

That Kobra guy must be a real tyrant!

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#15 2018-11-30 15:08:06

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Re: some admins keep misusing maprights

Paul Baumer wrote:

admins switch maps according to what majority of players would like to play and not to their own pleasure, also to avoid situations where the game is boring and people leave or where map type leads to disruptive gameplay by a lot of players.There is a damn reason why some maps are skipped!

That's why noone from rtr-sw admins have maprights except one. wink


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#16 2018-11-30 15:30:56

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Re: some admins keep misusing maprights

ABAS wrote:

@tuia / bud , can you remove planes from philly map?

Then it will be even more boring...

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#17 2018-11-30 15:35:15

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Re: some admins keep misusing maprights

Flettnerman wrote:
Paul Baumer wrote:

admins switch maps according to what majority of players would like to play and not to their own pleasure, also to avoid situations where the game is boring and people leave or where map type leads to disruptive gameplay by a lot of players.There is a damn reason why some maps are skipped!

That's why noone from rtr-sw admins have maprights except one. wink

Speak with that admin, not with me.
You know well that in past some RtR SW admins were seriously abusing their map rights so that decision was taken.


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#18 2018-12-05 01:07:43

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Re: some admins keep misusing maprights

I understand where BFsoldier is coming from. He does have a point, which admins to talk to (blame) i dont know though. I havent played that much on simple lately.

But BFsoldier please realize you are a different type of player. I would call u a "top player"... or a "pro player"... sometimes i even feel you are stat-padding. But i am not here to complain as your gameplay is, in that respect, legit and i myself miss the "non-casual gameplay" as well.

I guess my point is that i'd like to say "please realize you are not alone in this server... most players are just here for fun".

How this all affects to your map rotation complains... not sure. What really annoys me are the map votes... it covers the screen too much (blame dice, not simple admins). I understand some maps are less popular... but i cannot give any solution to this issue.... i just go with the flow.

So....

/me=stfu now

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