#1 2018-06-09 04:58:52

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Fun 8v8 Conquest Matches Event (SW/RTR Maps)

Hi all!

At BF1942 Mini League, we have decided to set up a fun 8v8 exhibition match somewhere at the end of June 2018. A possible date for the event is Saturday, June 23rd, 2018.

The event will consist of two consecutive matches done on 4 different unmodded expansion maps, two from SW and the other two from RTR. I am setting up a poll here so people can pick and choose the expansion maps that are most suitable for 8v8 gameplay. Personally, I think Hellendoorn, Raid on Agheila, Salerno and Anzio are ideal for that purpose.

How the event works is that basically two captains will be chosen from the current list of BF1942 Mini League contestants. Once the captains have been picked, they are responsible for assembling their teams. The teams have to be made with respects to ping and skill limitations.

Date of the event: June 30th. Exact time TBD.

Here is a current list of all BF1942 Mini League contestants:

1. {SoH} -=Diamondback=-
2. {SoH} ABAS
3. -Team_Inf- Moss
4. -Team_Inf- Pedro
5. -Team_Inf- Jim2102
6. -Team_Inf- LuccaWulf
7. [SP] GANAPOLSKOE
8. [SP] <SRB> Vojislav <SRB>
9. [SP] alena
10. [Arkhorst] Arkos
11. [Arkhorst] Raketenhorst
12. [G3TSOME] PipeR
13. [G3TSOME] Hidden
14. [G3TSOME] CM
15. Iszonyat.Arwen
16. Iszonyat.Danny[FTC1899]
17. Iszonyat.Mango
18. [EZ8] harryold
19. [EZ8] jasmarine

Possible contestant(s):

<TnS> Sigismund
Flettnerman
KarlsoN

For the event, which will last 2 hours and 40 minutes, at least two spectators will be needed to record the whole thing. If you would like to record the matches, please let us know below.

Currently all the above league members are given priority to participate in the event. In the event that some league players are not available for the event, they will be replaced by possible contestants (just say in your post if you are interested to join the event or not!).

*For the poll, please vote for your two favorite SW maps, and your two favorite RTR maps. Don't vote only for SW maps or RTR maps. Thank you!

Discord Group: https://discord.gg/PcSBTwD

Vote for your four favorite maps out of all the SW and RTR maps!

  1. Hellendoorn
  2. Raid on Agheila
  3. Peenemunde
  4. Eagle's Nest
  5. Telemark
  6. Gothic Line
  7. Mimoyecques
  8. Kbely Airfield
  9. Anzio
  10. Cassino
  11. Salerno
  12. Santo Croce
  13. Baytown
  14. Husky
  15. Essen
Total votes: 19

Poll is closed

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#2 2018-06-09 08:49:29

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Re: Fun 8v8 Conquest Matches Event (SW/RTR Maps)

Looking forward this event, should be fun and maybe I can record from my perspective (if I will play instead someone from current league).
Maps should be: RoA, Mimoyecques, Cassino and Anzio as most balanced and not boring from both expancion packs. Also I like Eagle's Nest but it's not good cause it still top vs bottom map like Ghotic Like but more balanced.
Btw, where's Essen on maplist?

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#3 2018-06-09 11:29:38

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#4 2018-06-09 15:46:09

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Re: Fun 8v8 Conquest Matches Event (SW/RTR Maps)

Flettnerman wrote:

Looking forward this event, should be fun and maybe I can record from my perspective (if I will play instead someone from current league).
Maps should be: RoA, Mimoyecques, Cassino and Anzio as most balanced and not boring from both expancion packs. Also I like Eagle's Nest but it's not good cause it still top vs bottom map like Ghotic Like but more balanced.
Btw, where's Essen on maplist?

Added it smile

The event could also be a 10v10 if we get more players, it doesn't have to strictly be a 8v8.

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#5 2018-06-12 20:18:23

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Re: Fun 8v8 Conquest Matches Event (SW/RTR Maps)

I am closing this poll on Friday, June 15th.

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#6 2018-06-12 21:32:43

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#7 2018-06-12 22:19:59

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Re: Fun 8v8 Conquest Matches Event (SW/RTR Maps)

where do I get maps for these mods/expansions? I can load the mod in "custom game", but I cant join any server cause of missing maps.

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#8 2018-06-12 22:33:57

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Re: Fun 8v8 Conquest Matches Event (SW/RTR Maps)

LegioX.DoubTi/Mourits wrote:

where do I get maps for these mods/expansions? I can load the mod in "custom game", but I cant join any server cause of missing maps.

Press "Download Road To Rome" and "Download Secret Weapons" on top of site and install both.

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#9 2018-06-13 00:42:21

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Would love to get involved with this stuff, but internet is too bad and I never know if I will be free.

Work & family.. you know.

(and saving Europe).

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#10 2018-06-14 10:43:39

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Re: Fun 8v8 Conquest Matches Event (SW/RTR Maps)

I would like to participate, either as spectator or contestant. Need a solid date/time though so I'll wait.

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#11 2018-06-14 19:33:46

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Re: Fun 8v8 Conquest Matches Event (SW/RTR Maps)

I  am interested, but since its a saturday put me on "maybe".

Mamba, what will happen if we are too many?`I mean if 30 people shows up? Do you set 3 teams or do 10 people have to spectate?

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#12 2018-06-14 20:33:37

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Doubti Get discord its easier to use than forums
+ get notifications from mamba faster

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#13 2018-06-14 20:49:44

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Re: Fun 8v8 Conquest Matches Event (SW/RTR Maps)

This was supposed to be a 8v8, now it might be a 10v10.

If we somehow get 32 people (unlikely) I would make four 8 player teams.

For now, we will stick with two 10 player teams. Registration closes tomorrow.

Possible contestants:

DoubTi, ChompTheHyena

The event will take place on June 30th. Exact time TBD.

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#14 2018-06-14 23:13:31

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@Moss: I use and have been using Discord for a long time. If you use bfleague you would know that I'm a big fan and "speaker" of Discord (to bf42).

@Mamba: the 30th of June holy shit. Schedule a gamewar a "month" ahead big_smile. Don't u think people will have forgetten about it till then? wink

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#15 2018-06-15 01:19:57

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LegioX.DoubTi/Mourits wrote:

@Moss: I use and have been using Discord for a long time. If you use bfleague you would know that I'm a big fan and "speaker" of Discord (to bf42).

@Mamba: the 30th of June holy shit. Schedule a gamewar a "month" ahead big_smile. Don't u think people will have forgetten about it till then? wink

It's needed to make the strategies, and train the players.

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#16 2018-06-15 12:47:34

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If you planning on playing on the kimsufi server, (fra) i suggest you try its limits first (nr of players without lagging)

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bud wrote:

If you planning on playing on the kimsufi server, (fra) i suggest you try its limits first (nr of players without lagging)

Will do. We will perhaps need to have a few more slots (please), I would say at least 24 so that if we do a 10v10, two spectators can join each side and film/cast, whatever. But we will test the server with 16 players first.

Note: I am closing the poll now.

The two maps for SW will be Hellendoorn and Raid on Agheila.

While Raid on Agheila doesn't have that many votes compared to Telemark and Kbely Airfield, it is a pure strategy map and the fact that all flags are neutral at map start makes it a more balanced and entertaining battle.

Kbely Airfield is fun, but it can end quickly because Axis has no uncap. A strong Allied side can outcap the Axis side easily, even though Axis has a plane to balance things out.

As for Mimoyecques, it we leave the map unmodded there is simply no way Allied can get out of it's main, cross the river and reach the city area where Axis holds flags. The C47 is a sitting duck versus the Wasserfall missile, the landing boats can be taken out easily by the H0229, and a strong Axis side can baselock the Americans without breaking a sweat on this map.

Telemark, even though it has more votes than Raid, is too similar to Hellendoorn in it's flag layout, and all flags on the maps are also uncaps like in Hellendoorn. Speaking of which, Hellendoorn is a very fast paced map, even though all flags can be capped and one side can end the round in a matter of minutes, it offers plenty of different strategies for both captains.

As for RTR, Santo Croce will be the first map, because it has many vehicles as well as airplanes, more suitable for high pingers. For the second map, Cassino seems like the logical choice, however we have a considerable amount of players with high pings and the northern portion of that map is mostly just infantry, so it won't really be fair to those players.

Which leaves us to Salerno, Anzio, Baytown or Husky for the second RTR map choice.

Salerno to me looks too much like a vanilla BF1942 map because the armies that fight on this map are simply Americans vs Germans. Plus, you can't spawn at the central flag after capture, which is weird to me.

Husky is an interesting map, but it can easily end in a baserape of the British team by the Axis team, since the British have no airplanes in this map and must rely on parachute spawns at the beginning of the map. It kind of reminds me of Omaha Beach in a sense.

Baytown is fun too, and similar to Anzio is a way, but I don't like the layout of the map. It seems this map is really controlled by planes and that the tanks cannot go far, and you waste a lot of time going up and down the hills with tanks, APCs, and other vehicles.

This leaves us to the map Anzio, which offers uncaps for each side, and at map start both sides start with an equal number of bases. Each side has a plane and an equivalent amount of armor. I think it is an interesting map and it can offer a lot of different strategies. It seems also balanced somewhat.

Therefore, the two SW maps will be: Hellendoorn and Raid on Agheila. The two RTR maps will be Santo Croce and Anzio.

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RoA have a different start for both sides - usually allies get flags faster cause of closer base placement to small bridge, so fast tanks and jeep can go through when axis just came from base and trying to shoot their backs. Axis must use wingwalk here, otherwise allies take flags faster and hold them easily.

Kbely is totally unbalanced map, 2 planes + 1 tank vs 1 tank, 2 apc and 2 AA. Axis simply mine all bridges and wait for planes and tank from af, it will end as baselock for allies.

About Mimoyecques. Goblin kill planes, AW52 kill rocket and flakpanzers, after that you can use C47. Landing boats are just useless there.

Telemark is the only map where you can't defeat allies while they have airfield, C47 flying on space and two spitfires, bombing the tanks. Bailers from space take other flags, so with planes it's gg for axis from beginning. Even if you lose airfield, but still have C47 up, you can take all flags and win.

You are wrong about Santo Croce, it's pure inf/plane map, tanks/artillery are not important there, cause of all flags are close to each other.

Husky is just rape with plane, defgun and wespe. Plane kill ship 2-3 times, defgun and wespe don't let allies take beach flag, it's gg.

About Hellendoorn - it's good map, but there's no way to counter Natter (flying dildo), which can kill all allied tanks and bail to any flag.

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Flettnerman wrote:

RoA have a different start for both sides - usually allies get flags faster cause of closer base placement to small bridge, so fast tanks and jeep can go through when axis just came from base and trying to shoot their backs. Axis must use wingwalk here, otherwise allies take flags faster and hold them easily.

Kbely is totally unbalanced map, 2 planes + 1 tank vs 1 tank, 2 apc and 2 AA. Axis simply mine all bridges and wait for planes and tank from af, it will end as baselock for allies.

About Mimoyecques. Goblin kill planes, AW52 kill rocket and flakpanzers, after that you can use C47. Landing boats are just useless there.

Telemark is the only map where you can't defeat allies while they have airfield, C47 flying on space and two spitfires, bombing the tanks. Bailers from space take other flags, so with planes it's gg for axis from beginning. Even if you lose airfield, but still have C47 up, you can take all flags and win.

You are wrong about Santo Croce, it's pure inf/plane map, tanks/artillery are not important there, cause of all flags are close to each other.

Husky is just rape with plane, defgun and wespe. Plane kill ship 2-3 times, defgun and wespe don't let allies take beach flag, it's gg.

About Hellendoorn - it's good map, but there's no way to counter Natter (flying dildo), which can kill all allied tanks and bail to any flag.

I'm willing to swap Hellendoorn for Mimoyecques, or add it as a bonus map (it could be used as a tie breaker map).

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#20 2018-06-15 21:42:02

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why does team inf have 4 team members on that list up there ? lol

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#21 2018-06-15 23:32:20

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Pedro is our backup but I'm not sure why Lucca is on the list, he didn't sign up at the start I believe

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#22 2018-06-16 21:30:44

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Match will be on next Saturday 23-th June on 22:00 CET.  Me and Mamba are captains just picked players. There are the lineup:

Mamba's team:

Jim2102
CM
harryold
Arkos
DouBtI
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Pedro
PipeR
Jasmarine
Danny
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My team:

Vojislav
Raketenhorst
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Abas
Mango
Moss
Ganapolskoe
KarlsoN
Sigismund
Flettnerman

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#23 2018-06-22 14:59:00

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Re: Fun 8v8 Conquest Matches Event (SW/RTR Maps)

Hi all!

The first leg of the event will be held on June 23, 2018 @ 21:30 CET on the BF1942 Mini League [FRA] server.

IP:Port of the server = 37.187.19.136:14569
PW = league2018.

If we get a 10v10, then only one person per team is allowed to spectate, and the spectators MUST film the match as well.

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#24 2018-06-22 15:36:33

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My team has two players that won't be able to play on the 23rd, so if two more players would like to join my team, you may do it now.

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#25 2018-06-23 23:13:28

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Was a good match, thanks for playing! Videos will be later.

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#26 2018-06-23 23:23:51

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was great ... thx all

see u in 1942 *cheers

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#27 2018-06-23 23:46:19

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fun times big_smile

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#28 2018-06-23 23:46:33

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I was hoping for a more balanced fight but gg anyways.

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#29 2018-06-24 08:55:10

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Videos up! Sorry it's laggy sometimes but still ok for watch, hope everyone enjoy them!
https://youtu.be/TWS-RiSWuLY
https://youtu.be/9-wGZNE-Cn8
https://youtu.be/890iBgMBnm0

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#30 2018-06-24 09:31:20

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Very good videos. Thanks to the man who use copter.

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