#1 2012-11-18 20:13:32

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Gaza strip

Gaza nowadays  is under Israel  military  fires by planes ships. ..
Too many innocent civils died for nothing..
Hamas(who defend gaza from attack) is shooting  Israel  cities  by rockets;just to reply  the fire
What do you think about this torture?

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#2 2012-11-18 20:49:35

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There will be elections soon right? I've heard the president is going to do something to get elect again. It's also in the news here in germany all the time.

Politically it was a stupid decision... I think the allied are not going to support them as they did before.

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#3 2012-11-18 23:30:35

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What Israel is doing is good.  Hamas is a terrorist organization.  Nuff said.

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#4 2012-11-18 23:37:59

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Re: Gaza strip

I agree with Catman.

And : while the IDF is targeting Hamas crew, weapon depots and rocket launchers and is doing a great job in keeping civilian casualties as low as possible, Hamas' goal is simply one thing : kill Israelis, no matter if soldiers or civilians.

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#5 2012-11-18 23:39:45

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Re: Gaza strip

Catman wrote:

What Israel is doing is good.  Hamas is a terrorist organization.  Nuff said.

U really  disappointed me  sad coz im from there!!!
however its ur opinion... but i want to ask u a question:
what will u do when ur country  occupied?

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#6 2012-11-18 23:41:10

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And now they are killing civilians. Jesus...

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#7 2012-11-18 23:42:10

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Oh god guys... my uncle lost his left arm and his legs in this war and he refused to surrender until he was killed in 2002..

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#8 2012-11-18 23:44:45

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HoOk, the most guys here don't know what is war... they see just a few pictures on the screen and have an opinion about thing they don't know.

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#9 2012-11-18 23:46:47

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Hamas is defending their land what do u expect  from them to do
Type this in youtube غزة
U guys always listen to fake and fking media ..could u please search for gaza at you tube

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#10 2012-11-18 23:50:07

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Angerfist wrote:

I agree with Catman.

And : while the IDF is targeting Hamas crew, weapon depots and rocket launchers and is doing a great job in keeping civilian casualties as low as possible, Hamas' goal is simply one thing : kill Israelis, no matter if soldiers or civilians.

Nice brainwash... thumbs up media.

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#11 2012-11-18 23:57:35

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there are no innocents in both sides, the ones who say there is one worse or better than other are brainwashed or dont want to see both contexts. The only innocent are civilian casualties that have nothing to do with this shit.

Regarding the recent events there is absolutely no point whatsoever in engaging in a debate about the rights or wrongs or historical detail of them. Who started first, etc etc
The facts are that Israel exists. The clock can’t be turned back. Neither Arabs nor Muslims have a very good track record of coexisting with Jews.
The only way forward is to recognize these facts and try to make the best of the situation.

AND STOP KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES FOR A PIECE OF LAND! FFS!

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#12 2012-11-19 00:00:37

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dary wrote:
Angerfist wrote:

I agree with Catman.

And : while the IDF is targeting Hamas crew, weapon depots and rocket launchers and is doing a great job in keeping civilian casualties as low as possible, Hamas' goal is simply one thing : kill Israelis, no matter if soldiers or civilians.

Nice brainwash... thumbs up media.

nuff said ... media  manipulation ftw!!

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#13 2012-11-19 00:05:03

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dary wrote:
Angerfist wrote:

I agree with Catman.

And : while the IDF is targeting Hamas crew, weapon depots and rocket launchers and is doing a great job in keeping civilian casualties as low as possible, Hamas' goal is simply one thing : kill Israelis, no matter if soldiers or civilians.

Nice brainwash... thumbs up media.

Facts aren't brainwashing...  American media isn't the same as Canadian media. 

What will I do if Canada is occupied?  Well, USA tried to claim our land three times.  We denied them three times.  So, I expect countries to defend what's theirs.

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#14 2012-11-19 01:10:51

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as i learned before isreal got their country on palestinien ground after ww2?
they should just let palestine separate and make their own country..

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#15 2012-11-19 01:11:31

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make love not war! thats the spirits baby's

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#16 2012-11-19 06:07:12

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Lol @ brainwashed ... which media you mean Dary and Valento, the German media which is totally in favor of the Palestinians ? You mean that kind of brainwashing media which didn't mention the 120 rockets fired against Israel UNTIL Israel started his counterattack ? Go back to your Stammtisch and grab another beer or two. Be sure that your right arm stays where it belongs.

If you are looking for media manipulation, check out what "Pallywood" means. "Nuff said".

I can't see how "defending your country" includes trying to kill as much civilians as possible. Having your rocket launchers and your weapon depots in civilian areas is pretty useful. When they are destroyed and there are also civilian casualties, you can cry even louder how "barbaric" the enemy is. Hook, can you explain how random suicide bombs and rockets against Israeli cities help to "liberate" the Palestinian people ?

It's kinda funny in a very sad way : Israel moves out of Gaza, the Palestinian reaction : they vote Hamas into government. And while they keep on bragging about how poor Gaza is, somehow enough money is available for filling up their weapon depots and for buying / constructing rocket launchers. Which are used to randomly bomb Israeli cities, because that's how you "defend yourself" and "get rid of an occupier" (right?) : trying to kill as much civilians as possible, may it be via rockets / missiles or via suicide bombers.

Before any idiot answers with "but that's what the IDF is doing also!" : if the IDF would try to kill as much Palestinian civilians as possible, there wouldn't be many Palestinians left tomorrow.

Lecter wrote:

Regarding the recent events there is absolutely no point whatsoever in engaging in a debate about the rights or wrongs or historical detail of them. Who started first, etc etc
The facts are that Israel exists. The clock can’t be turned back. Neither Arabs nor Muslims have a very good track record of coexisting with Jews.
The only way forward is to recognize these facts and try to make the best of the situation.

Exactly. 100 % agreed.

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#17 2012-11-19 13:06:55

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As i heared it, there were large demonstrations in Tel Aviv last year against current goverment, i think most israelis are against war, but israeli governmant is getting prepared for war every day more and more, this latest atacks only confirms that. Just a question to HoOk, how is life in Israel? i mean can you get job, be payed good enough to cover bills and to go once or maybe twice to trip or somewhere on holiday?

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#18 2012-11-19 13:39:35

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ramyam: yes  idid.. i went to tel aviv and jerusalem at 7/6/2012  26/6/2012
and about who start shooting its israel ofc.....
this issue i cant perfectly  explain in english
and just to know before 1999 we had ability to enter isreal freely with own cars i wish those days come back......

angerfist: Arabs in gaza dont have enough technology to shoot amry bases. just shoot anywhere
ALSOOOO  every Israeli person have at least 1 pistol.....
im sure you all have the wrong stereotyping about what is going on.........
yesterday a rocket hit a house and killed 10 persons from one family(arab people)!!! 5 of them children....
till now  92 persons killed and about 500 person hits...
anybody remember what happened in gaza before 2 years??!!! about 2000 person  were killed
and nearly 5000 hits..... and hamas took israelian  soldier as hostage and they freed him just to make isreal free 1000 Palestinian in isreal prisons..
but in isreal side the number of kills didnt exceed 100 kills.....

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#19 2012-11-19 13:52:24

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HoOK wrote:

Arabs in gaza dont have enough technology to shoot amry bases. just shoot anywhere

i know this is a strange idea but what if they just stopped doing that?

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#20 2012-11-19 14:13:18

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this world belongs to rich people, the rest of us are only animals to be slaughtered, whenever they want....
wars are beeing produced to make even more money for corporate industries and i am amazed of level of brainwash that the americas people are subjected to. after a certain amount of torture on human brain, the subject is likely to become psichologically unstable and subjective to any further brainwash information .......
humans haven't changed in the last 5000 years of written history, nor they will change.

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#21 2012-11-19 14:37:42

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and who are the rich people? Yep, dont need to answer, u got that right

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#22 2012-11-19 14:40:37

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s[sk] wrote:
HoOK wrote:

Arabs in gaza dont have enough technology to shoot amry bases. just shoot anywhere

i know this is a strange idea but what if they just stopped doing that?

then they have to receive missiles only... before 5mins a plane destoryed a civil car and killed 2 people and 1 got hit...
who owns the land?!!!! u need a deep thinking before talking........

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#23 2012-11-19 14:53:18

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then they have to receive missiles only...

so assuming that israelis would attack without any provocation (not sure about that), what would be the difference?

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#24 2012-11-19 15:16:22

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Nateos | George wrote:

this world belongs to rich people, the rest of us are only animals to be slaughtered, whenever they want....
wars are beeing produced to make even more money for corporate industries and i am amazed of level of brainwash that the americas people are subjected to. after a certain amount of torture on human brain, the subject is likely to become psichologically unstable and subjective to any further brainwash information .......
humans haven't changed in the last 5000 years of written history, nor they will change.

Agree totally except that i dont think its just american people getting mislead/stuffed with wrong information, its just easier to spot it there.

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#25 2012-11-19 15:28:18

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bud wrote:
Nateos | George wrote:

this world belongs to rich people, the rest of us are only animals to be slaughtered, whenever they want....
wars are beeing produced to make even more money for corporate industries and i am amazed of level of brainwash that the americas people are subjected to. after a certain amount of torture on human brain, the subject is likely to become psichologically unstable and subjective to any further brainwash information .......
humans haven't changed in the last 5000 years of written history, nor they will change.

Agree totally except that i dont think its just american people getting mislead/stuffed with wrong information, its just easier to spot it there.

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#26 2012-11-19 17:19:46

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yes, bud, not only american, all of us getting the same shitty input every bloody day., i said america because it all started there....

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#27 2012-11-19 18:43:51

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its started from the Napoleon 's times))

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#28 2012-11-19 19:14:46

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it started when the stone age man said to his woman "im hunting" but in fact he was fucking the girl next cave big_smile

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#29 2012-11-19 19:18:28

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in the stone age they fucking a girls, not the other people's brains

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#30 2012-11-19 19:19:29

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joint wrote:

in the stone age they fucking a girls, not the other people's brains

you didnt get it

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