#1 2019-06-20 21:29:03

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Banned?

Hey guys,

a few days ago after having some decent dogfights I followed someone from out of his base on Kharkov.
He noticed I was behind him but didn't engage fighting and ascended further. Then I put myself in front
of his plane to animate him once more but no reaction. After a minute or so as we were both hitting strato I fired a few shots at him and his plane immediately blew up.
In turn I instantly got banned. Some may consider this as rape.
I have to say it is not the best way to behave but there were just a few players on and raping wasn't the intention.
I just wanted to make sure we would find each other before the round ended. And as we both were at the same speed and height it would have been a fair fight.
I can understand that the player felt sort of humiliated and I apologize in that case.
Though I didn't receive a prior warning or a reason for that ban.
Some players told me that it said "15 min ban" and after waiting like an hour I could join again.
Strange thing is I keep getting banned again and again whenever I get some kills in a plane.
Can anyone please have a glimpse at the server log and tell who it is? Looks like a tiff.

Thanks

wind water earth

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#2 2019-06-20 21:47:57

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Re: Banned?

Dakota wrote:

Dont wasteadminstime !!!

too late

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#3 2019-06-20 22:05:49

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Re: Banned?

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I gave you a 15 minute ban, because you were lurking in Allies Base sky, just to see when the planes are taking off to easy follow them.

I told you, to leave that area, ... you were never in a fight up there. You were just there to get an advantage, (which i can't understand, because you are able to fight a fair fight in any situation).

So i told you to leave that area, but you did not and you did exactly what i expected. You stayed just behind me from our base.

And yes, i was a bit pissed, and so i banned you for 15 minutes, but then you evaded the ban and with that you earned a permaban.

You changed the key and the name, but i knew it's you.

This is not the first time you evaded a Ban.

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#4 2019-06-21 01:20:12

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Re: Banned?

I was allied if I remember correctly so "lurking in allied base" wasn't against the rules at least.
Besides that I wasn't lurking for planes to take off except that one time I followed you for a challenge.
Although I really tried to keep it fair and even granted you advantage by putting me in front of you I am sorry that you felt harassed.
You may have felt haunted during the round but that is rather normal because Kharkov is a small map and pilots hit each other more often.
Apparently I didn't notice your warnings but I didn't fly over your base to track you down. Kharkov is tiny and
you have to fly over enemy base occasionally due to its size. I mean I didn't fly in circles just to take anyone
out that is taking off.
And I think you overreact a bit with the permban. I am around for quite a long time and many players know me for following the rules and playing fair.
The evading case you mention was rather a trouble shooting thing as I got disconnected from server and further connections failed.
As for that time I wasn't aware it was due to your ban and I just wanted to come back to check things and ask for the reason.
I would really like to know Tuia's opinion on this.
This server would really benefit if some hotheaded admins calmed down a little and cleaned up the server from tkers and rapers.
Rather than pursuing honest players for personal reasons.
Well and if you should change your mind for whatever reason I'd appreciate it if you unban me, please.

Thanks

p.s. Why do some posts get deleted here?

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#5 2019-06-21 02:26:07

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Re: Banned?

"troubleshooting"  ....you get a solid 10/10 for that one.  Very original!

wastemytime wrote:

I would really like to know Tuia's opinion on this.

To answer that question tho, Tuias' opinion can be found on the rules page:
- Do not try to evade a ban, that will lead to a much longer ban.

Peace

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#6 2019-06-21 10:07:18

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Re: Banned?

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And no, you did not wait 1 hour. Otherwise you would not have been PermaBanned.

You came back between 5-7 minutes and this was the reason for the permanent ban.

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#7 2019-06-21 15:22:20

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Re: Banned?

I waited more than an hour when someone told me I was banned for 15 minutes.
I had no clue what was going on prior to that as you didn't talk to me and gave me no reason.
Don't you think your reaction is a bit too harsh?
And for how long will your ban last eventually?

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#8 2019-06-21 16:45:20

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Re: Banned?

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You joined with the same IP, Dude, just max. 5 minutes later.

After i fought you with a plane, i knew it's you, then i went into RM and, ... voila > other name, but same IP.

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#9 2019-06-26 19:41:12

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Re: Banned?

Ah, I see you are an actress, Miss Marple, as well as an avenger.
And when will the ban end?

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#10 2019-06-26 23:42:06

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Re: Banned?

I can give you my opinion, Arkos is a really nice fair and fun and friendly admin. Really not nice to ignore his decent requests. Sorry man anyone that has a conflict with Arkos i automatically not like (yeah sounds not fair).

Say sorry, the rules are the rules... be well or play AX server,.

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#11 2019-06-27 13:37:40

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Re: Banned?

I like him too. And as I mentioned in this thread I am sorry for what I've done to him.
Sad that that single time playing against the rules has made him so mad.

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#12 2019-06-27 13:51:12

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Re: Banned?

Please realize that w/e occurred to initiate this is now overshadowed by your continuous ban evasion.
Good luck ever getting back in here..

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#13 2019-06-27 14:06:42

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Re: Banned?

it ok wastemytime, just dont waste too much time

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#14 2019-07-01 17:39:15

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Re: Banned?

iCQ you're not funny at all lol
Okay and can you see to what date the ban is set?
I mean it's been quite a while

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#15 2019-08-05 19:36:54

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Re: Banned?

Hola compadres,

got to bump this topic again. After more than 6 weeks I thought it would be worth
to connect to the simple server to see if the ban has been revoked.
I asked Arkos if he'd be ok with me playing here again and he told me that he would
remove the ban eventually.
But later on I have been banned again.
Can you please have a look at it? And if you're ok with it unban me?

Cheers

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#16 2019-08-05 20:26:51

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Re: Banned?

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I allready removed the ban, just after you asked me.

I decided this upon tuias decision some weeks ago, which I don't explain further, (in public section).

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Btw. You should wait for an answer.

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#17 2019-08-05 20:54:18

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Re: Banned?

Arkos wrote:

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I allready removed the ban, just after you asked me.

I decided this upon tuias decision some weeks ago, which I don't explain further, (in public section).

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You was the one that baned him Ark ??? If not you then should talk to the admin that did even if you talked to Tuias  and his decision was to unban him, you should let the admin that baned him do it !!!   Those specials pm to get unban are killing the game more faster then its old. I would say players are wondering why some admins do not take action in game because of that.

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#18 2019-08-05 22:43:08

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Re: Banned?

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Ya, it was me who banned him.

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#19 2019-08-05 22:57:08

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Re: Banned?

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Ya, it was me who banned him.

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Well ok then Ark, I was just wondering why ( the not in public section ) .  To much are using this tactical to get unban from PM ect...

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#20 2019-08-05 23:01:46

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Re: Banned?

resume: he gets banned, evades the ban, earns a permanent ban, lie in his unban request topic, makes fun of the admin and then he gets his ban lifted, this is awesome.

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#21 2019-08-05 23:20:35

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Re: Banned?

Zwarrior wrote:

resume: he gets banned, evades the ban, earns a permanent ban, lie in his unban request topic, makes fun of the admin and then he gets his ban lifted, this is awesome.

But he will be wasting admins time again for sure !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIFvgSCzg4E

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#22 2019-08-06 00:05:37

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Re: Banned?

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Shämeless banned him somehow 2 hours later again.

But i meant tuias decison in case of evading. He unbanned also, (you know who), in the same situation.

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#23 2019-08-06 14:24:39

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Re: Banned?

As far as i understand the rules of the server are not equal to every player as well as the punishment we receive for bad behavior, etc.

Why?

who is or who are those especial persons who lets this kind of assholes ruin the game experience?

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#24 2019-08-06 16:46:30

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Re: Banned?

Zwarrior wrote:

As far as i understand the rules of the server are not equal to every player as well as the punishment we receive for bad behavior, etc.

Why?

who is or who are those especial persons who lets this kind of assholes ruin the game experience?

Something I don't agree with is admins using aliases when in game.
They may be incognito to catch the asshats who think there are no admins present and disrupt etc but they would get them in any case so the point is moot.
I don't know, perhaps some get off on being sleeper admins under another random identity.

At least if they use their own names then they will be more accountable for their actions and regular players in game will form an opinion over time as to whether they are a good admin or not.

Hiding behind aliases whilst wielding admin rights is lame in my opinion.

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#25 2019-08-06 18:32:06

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Re: Banned?

Zwarrior, some of those players that are so special were crashing the server few years ago. The problem got solve but they kept the privilege and others are using the same disturbing game play knowing that they will be unban again and again. They say the game is old so they should not perban them ect...  But I say we loose more regular players because of them not because the game is old.

Bd Actor, when I was a admin I was using my real nickname 95 percent of time so that way they would know not to fool around, the 5 percent left was when I saw by my remote manager complaints about some players in hours that was not playing. So I used a different nickname to go and check if it was BS or real. 

PS: It wont stop them from blasting a admin even if he his the best !!!

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#26 2019-08-06 19:54:05

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Re: Banned?

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Bd Actor, when I was a admin I was using my real nickname 95 percent of time so that way they would know not to fool around, the 5 percent left was when I saw by my remote manager complaints about some players in hours that was not playing. So I used a different nickname to go and check if it was BS or real.

That's a valid reason Dakota if you are discretely checking the validity of complaints made by other players.

The admins I'm referring to are on and into a full game for the duration of the map, not carrying out recce.
I see no reason for it and the admins that use their own nick whilst performing admin duties will garner my respect.

I had an exchange with an incognito admin on Omaha recently. I typed a request to the team to bring the apc back from the front bunker as some twit had just drove it there and abandoned it. Only a matter of time before it gets blasted or we have team mates spawning directly into  enemy fire when exiting.
Keeping the apc close but back from the centre flag on Omaha is crucial should the flag go white.
The admin in question took umbrage to me requesting this and we started a tit for tat with him saying I should do it.
In the end I just said " Were you born stupid?"

What I'm saying is, he failed to appreciate the reason I was asking for the apc to be moved back and adopted a stance of  "if I wanted it moved I should do it myself."

Didn't know he was admin till he kicked a few players misbehaving afterwards (at least he didn't kick me for calling him stupid). smile

I'd like to know who the admin was under his real name, that will colour my opinions of any posts he makes on this forum and also any posts made about him.

Admins going incognito also allows for baiting other players to then set them up for kicking or banning.

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#27 2019-08-06 20:25:55

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Re: Banned?

Yes I understand sir, I even made a topic or a request about this in the feedback section long ago.  Not ok for admins to always play under false Nickmanes.

Look's like some are keeping admins tools so they wont be disturbed only when they are playing, shame !!

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#28 2019-08-06 22:02:16

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Re: Banned?

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Only Bloodhounds should be allowed to use FakeNicks, like Abas and other hunters.

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#29 2019-08-06 22:47:20

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Re: Banned?

As and admin i think ban threads should be kept to the banned party, and admin/s involved. As it is no one gives a f*ck about that, so therein also lies the answer for you long pseudo conversation about how you feel things should be.

Cheers!

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#30 2019-08-06 23:01:33

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Re: Banned?

Then use those specials PM and get rid of unban appeals section so they can kill the game faster whit out knowing what the majority thinks SIR !!

PS: The Important thing is what you think and feel I guess ???

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